Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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If anything I think he had far too little Khaine in his life.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Flaming Sword is an enhancement on the tabletop and in WFRP 4e, but it's a lightsaber in WFRP 2e.
"Is bad"? Did he do something recently?
Asuryan is a cunt. When he found out about the Great Vortex, he tried to stop its creation because even though it'd save the world, it'd also reduce his own majesty.
So I have been thinking about the brass keep since it been occupied by chaos forces in the middle mountains. The middle mountains may also be cursed because of whatever the dawi there did. So anyways Thorek our rune lord is going to be looting a hold in the middle mountains. We may want to go with him when he does because we can get a force there quickly.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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Is it ever said when the Brass Keep is taken over? My understanding was that happened later than now.
Well in 2370 the brass Keep was taken over by chaos and that was the last time it has a mention. That was over a century ago in game so I think it may still be held by chaos
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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Is that from a WoC timeline?
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Yes, page 15.
Edit: The Brass keep was not taken over by chaos in 2370. It was attacked by the empire and chaos warriors managed to defend against them.
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I am wondering where it was written that Asuryan tried to stop the Great Vortex from being created.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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Realms of Sorcery, I think. There's a section that goes something like "Aenarion opposed the creation of the Vortex because he was influenced by Asuryan who couldn't let his influence on the world go, so that's why Elves avoid going too far into a single deity*"
Though I think there's another source (8th edition?) that says that Asuryan actually opposed the gods having influence on the world?
*With some exceptions, given Alarielle, and some elves still go for some pretty extreme acts of devotion, like Priests of Vaul blinding themselves and members of the Phoenix Guard never speaking a word upon joining
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It can be argued that Caledor II's monumental stupidity easily outweighs mere incompetence of human Emperors XD
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Still, even putting the Vortex thing aside, Asuryan still has questionable judgement. He somehow let Caledor II pass the test. It's one thing for a candidate to be fine when they walk into the flames only to later go off the rails (ie Aenarion), but for someone so incompetent right off the bat to be allowed in…
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High elves armybook 8th edition page 59 in the short description of Isha there is mention that direct contact has long been forbidden by Asuryan, so she sometimes pleads with Lileath to send them some dreams as guidance and warnings. She only acts directly when Asuryan is not paying attention.
Honestly, the whole thing is pretty weird considering that pretty much every other nation has some direct assistance from gods.
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Well, if we believe End Times canon then he didn't, and every PK since the second one cheated, and he cursed them for it.
ET is all kinds of crazy, and even if it's accepted it's still very questionable judgement due to what the curse was.
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Have the Dwarves had any terrible equivalents for High King? Empire had Dieter, and the Asur had Caledor II.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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Hey now, Dieter IV put in a lot of effort to be that incompetent, you can't take that away from him.
There's a reference in 7th edition High Elves to protective enchantments for prospective Phoenix Kings, though it still implies that they'd die if Asuryan didn't consider them worthy.
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probably, but the problem is that they would never admit it, even to themselves.
any... off... decision would very likely be post-justified as the right choice and pushed as such until it became culturally fact.
the ancestors can do no wrong.
Thorgrim is leading his people in a mass suicidal war. He's basically given up on the idea of Dwarfs ever regaining their lost glories or making new glories, and his orders have caused the deaths of a lot of his people.
But dwarfs seem unlikely to elect someone who is actively incompetent, unlike humans or elves.
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I'll say two words: Dieter IV.
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- USA
In canon, yeah, but in-quest it seems his thinking has changed a bit.
Dieter IV did as much as was humanly possible, but there are certain things an elf is mentally capable of doing. You know, like wielding High Magic, or in this case the War of the Beard. A human could have started the war but in no way would they have been psychologically capable of continuing it as long as the elves managed, even if they had the physical capabilities to do so.
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If they did, the Dwarfs probably went to insanely great lengths to remove him from memory and from history when he was dead and gone.
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Dieter IV fucked up about as hard as he could have fucked up.
Caledor II probably could have fucked up a little harder.
But Caledor II's fuck up fucked up the world far more than Dieter IV's fuck up, simply due to circumstances giving Caledor II's fuck up more weight.
So Dieter IV is probably worse proportionally, but in totality didn't cause nearly as much damage.
Caledor II probably could have fucked up a little harder.
But Caledor II's fuck up fucked up the world far more than Dieter IV's fuck up, simply due to circumstances giving Caledor II's fuck up more weight.
So Dieter IV is probably worse proportionally, but in totality didn't cause nearly as much damage.