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Wait. We do? I thought we spent both on WEBMAT? And if we did spend two, what was our third deed?
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Yeath, probably, I'm mostly down on the investigation because it failed it's most important function: satisfying my curiosity. I'm sure the remainig questions Mathilde had at the end of the night will serve as a nice source of Ulgu for the weeks to come.
We spent one, for premission to create a branch College. Speaking of, @Boney, both great deeds still appear on Mathilde's character sheet.
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It's not like she needs it😏
We spent one for Web-Mat from what I recall, it was one to get the go ahead to have a College Branch.
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Im going to have post in disagreement that we dont need favour.
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We actually arent that flush in college favour and if this is great deed worthy we have only one of those and may need them in the future to influence the empire with regards to the waystone project.
College Favours: 22
We actually arent that flush in college favour and if this is great deed worthy we have only one of those and may need them in the future to influence the empire with regards to the waystone project.
I was thinking more about the early K8P campaign.
I don't think that there's a need to concede the credit. Heidi is already extremely well covered.
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Actually, I'd like to reject all presented options and substitute my own.
One huge issue with finding out about this guy and finding him was that everything he did was in different regions, and spread across the purview of different departments.
The Original Incident happened years ago in Stirland. Knowledge was kept extremely secret by the Witch Hunters.
The Attempted Reinactment happened in a different region to a different noble house, under different jurisdiction.
Connecting these incidents and deciphering its workings required knowledge from the witch hunters and the magical institutions (and Sigmarites, I think).
Albrecht himself was hiding in yet another jurisdiction, which was only found out by a wizard. Hunting him involved cooperation of the local temple and god, as well as the population and even the local underground.
To sum it up:
Albrecht tried to divide his actions across as many subfactions as possible to keep them hidden.
He was caught by the cooperation of these subfactions against the great enemy.
The real credit goes to Unity Against Chaos.
Wizard Lady cooperating with Witch hunter. Ulricans cooperating with Sigmarites. (Ranaldians working with Sigmarites.)
This also fits Mathilde's bigger narrative and career. Uniting all the good factions against Chaos and Evil has been her theme since pretty much the beginning of the quest, with the Waystone Project just being the latest instance. Unity of the Wizard colleges, Unity of the elector counts, Unity of the races etc
Also a subtle barb against a certain Wizard Lord, who went of to find glory on his own…
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We have a constant source of College favours, though - not only a paper each turn through our Tower of Serenity, but if at any point we feel like we need to accure favours in a hurry we can use Max to write two papers or a book on top of that.
@torac that is not how politics works, someone has to be given credit or it will just default to the locals because they have a vested in interest in being seen as protecting their own turf. If you are a citizen of this city you want to know that your cult and your hunters have your back not that you need Sigmarites and Grey Wizards and gods know what else to protect you.
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I remember Boney saying something about Wolf being back at K8P instead of Tor Lithanel last time we asked. I can't remember the exact phrasing, but I think he gave a reason why. I was surprised at him being in Tor Lithanel honestly. Thought he would be back in K8P. Probably for the best that he doesn't cause Panoramia to panic. Johann, Horstmann and Max are less likely to freak out.
I remembered something like that too, but couldn't remember exactly what I said and I couldn't find the post where I said it. I think it was something like 'Mathilde isn't quite settled in yet' so I figured that she would be by now. But if someone can find that post so I can double-check, that'd be great.
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I think MVP was our sword, but the award for Best Supporting Role has to go our Coin allowing for perfect stealth up untill our attack.
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Ah. So he becomes this quest's version of Ciaphas Cain? All he wants is a cushy desk job where the most dangerous thing is being bored to death by paperwork, and yet because apparently he's so good at Cool Shit, the higher-ups (Mira, apparently) keeps sending him out to hotspots.
You mean this?
The last time Wolf appeared on-screen, I think it was during the AV experiment regarding Ranald's coin, which I thought took place in K8P, since she sacrificed the results in Ranald's shrine there.
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Just wanted to add a little more detail to this, here is the favor we could have agreed to for Mira:
Note that it is agreeing to sabotage Alric. There is nothing about giving her the credit for the sabotage. While it would probably boost her position in the short term it might also make her look petty and ruthless which might not be the look she is going for. She would probably still be grateful for the credit but it might set up more of a schism in the Light Order if it is public that she is interfering versus Alric's plans just failing because some witch hunters found a chaos cultist.
I think you're right about Taal and definitely right about Ulric, but I think Ranald was there and Sigmar wasn't. Sigmar doesn't have a connection to this like Taal or Ulric do - Taal because it is his holy city, Ulric because of the Mathilde-wolf connection and because he also has an ancient presence in this city. Ranald obviously has a strong connection to Mathilde, and this chase isn't that out of character for Ranald, I don't think. Mathilde was covered in the blessing of the Night Prowler as she stalked her target, after all, and from her expereince hiding bodies in Teufelheim we can expect that the moment she stopped actively commiting violene that blessing would return.
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I'd like a closer relationship with the Longshanks, look at how much our connections with the witch hunters paid off here. Through them we got the information we needed to tag the exact target. So I say give the longshanks credit and send them a windherded item next turn.
There we go. Yeah, he'd be spending at least some of the time at Tor Lithanel now, it's been most of a year since then and Mathilde is a lot more familiar with the area. And they both start getting antsy if they're apart for too long.
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Beyond getting us a good reputation with the Longshanks giving them the credit is also great advertisement for working with the grey college.
They warn you of problems that sneak by you, they help you deal with it, and at the end of the day they don't even care about the accolades for doing so.
They warn you of problems that sneak by you, they help you deal with it, and at the end of the day they don't even care about the accolades for doing so.
[ ] Longshanks and the civilians
'Every city loves its 'local hero' stories, and it doesn't get much better then a group of brave bystanders saving a holy warrior by dog piling some great evil cultist. it doesn't matter if they never got to do anything In Reality, by tomorrow every tough guy in the city will be claiming that they were the ones to land the finishing blow, in a week? Some of them will even believe there own hot air.'
@Boney ok write in? No one gets create if everyone is claiming create, and no story is true if everyone is making up there own details!
'Every city loves its 'local hero' stories, and it doesn't get much better then a group of brave bystanders saving a holy warrior by dog piling some great evil cultist. it doesn't matter if they never got to do anything In Reality, by tomorrow every tough guy in the city will be claiming that they were the ones to land the finishing blow, in a week? Some of them will even believe there own hot air.'
@Boney ok write in? No one gets create if everyone is claiming create, and no story is true if everyone is making up there own details!
Mathilde made sure her move is well lit.
Now, theres some practical reasons - brighter means a cleaner hit but...think of how incredibly awesome it looks to the audience, its basically under a spotlight given the contrast!
And the opening move is an executioner's cut!
He is disarmed, but not defeated!
A vertical cut makes a lot of sense for minimizing collateral damage, with Mathilde having time to line up a shot she's basically cutting him in half if he's sitting still.
Also that's a bit more sponsor attention than most of us were expecting for someone still auditioning. Makes sense in hindsight.
The injury's form is also a bit double edged - while he lost his best offensive ability, he also lost the part that makes him easiest to trace...not that a one armed man isn't also rather noticable.
Option 3 - he's at least somewhat in shock and working with what he already had in mind.
Also damn that is a big bonus. Luckily he's a bit shorthanded at the moment.
Mathilde in Predator mode. On the second read over, thats probably Ulric and Taal at work, especially with Mathilde's internal monologue switching tracks to talking in Wolf metaphors.
Taal is super not pleased at this man tainting his holy city.
The gods are increasing their focus here.
And, of course, the residents of Taal's holy city have Opinions on this heretic.
And suddenly they're fighting a dude moving like a daemon. Slaanesh really wants this, badly enough to commit a pretty large bonus to a dude on Taal's turf. If nothing else the carnage would be horrific considering everyone is in light armor and theres a lot of civilians on site.
Mathilde got that perfect snickersnack she always wanted.
I'd guess the Longshanks would be doing these followup probes. Alberich is mutated enough that his background is unlikely to turn up after he's burned at least.
Wish them luck.
We got a lead in to start probing the Everchosen bowl I think?
But theres also enough divine attention on it that whoever probes at it might not come out in one piece.
It really did work out perfectly in the afteraction report. Not as perfect as a one hit kill from the opening move, but nobody got hurt, and the cultist is stopped. Dramatically.
Theres going to be so many rumors!
Think they'd be more focused on the big sword than the robes?
The given possibilities are based in truth, just emphasizing certain parts while leaving other parts out. Having the Longshanks spread an outright lie might not sit well with them.
For the Longshanks... do we actually need a good relationship with them?
I mean, yeah, they came in useful... for one operation in their city and province of note. Cooperation which we were able to get just by asking them as a Lord Magister anyway. What, exactly, do we need or want from them afterwards?
Mira or the Templars might be more useful to gain better relationships with.
Especially as I've been thinking that we might wind up using our remaining Great Deed on getting the other half of Thorek's favor done, the "Lend your influence to pressuring the expatriate Dwarves of Middenheim into revealing the secrets of their ancestral home." one.
Alternatively, we end up using our Great Deed to get the Gold Order to make a Seviroscope for Kragg's use for Bok, like we were thinking of long ago.
I mean, yeah, they came in useful... for one operation in their city and province of note. Cooperation which we were able to get just by asking them as a Lord Magister anyway. What, exactly, do we need or want from them afterwards?
Mira or the Templars might be more useful to gain better relationships with.
Well, if the Longshanks are getting their share of the credit anyway, and this is just asking "Who, if anybody, does Mathilde her share of the credit to?" then crediting ourselves would be viable enough I figure.
Especially as I've been thinking that we might wind up using our remaining Great Deed on getting the other half of Thorek's favor done, the "Lend your influence to pressuring the expatriate Dwarves of Middenheim into revealing the secrets of their ancestral home." one.
Alternatively, we end up using our Great Deed to get the Gold Order to make a Seviroscope for Kragg's use for Bok, like we were thinking of long ago.
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Really the only choice I see as bad here is giving the credit to the Templars. Like, they're paranoid bastards who hate magic. Regardless of how everyone else would react, giving them credit would cause them to turn around and investigate, and they're probably positioned well enough to find out the truth regarding Heidi. Plus, they probably wouldn't give a single rat's ass about causing massive instability in the empire so long as it doesn't utterly collapse, because they are essentially cultists on a mission from their god.
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Consider though that perhaps the Longshanks can show Mathilde some places with Waystone significance. Might even open doors to any information they have generally.