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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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I was taking a break from reading adventure books and so I started reading Storm of Magic (8th Edition Supplement). Very informative, but while I was skimming the book I came across an... interesting quote attributed to Teclis. Here it is:
"The reason that Kadon succeeded in binding monsters where other mages failed was a simple one: rather than attempt to suppress his catspaw's primal instincts, Kadon embraced it. Kadon's Scrolls of Binding therefore stand in testament to an uncomfortable truth: that a primitive mind might work wonders where the careful reasoning of a more sophisticated one would surely fail. This thought is uncomfortable for any Elf to entertain but, if Ulthuan is to endure, its loremasters can no longer underestimate the magic of humans simply because the humans themselves are inferior"- Teclis (Storm of Magic Pg.85)
"The reason that Kadon succeeded in binding monsters where other mages failed was a simple one: rather than attempt to suppress his catspaw's primal instincts, Kadon embraced it. Kadon's Scrolls of Binding therefore stand in testament to an uncomfortable truth: that a primitive mind might work wonders where the careful reasoning of a more sophisticated one would surely fail. This thought is uncomfortable for any Elf to entertain but, if Ulthuan is to endure, its loremasters can no longer underestimate the magic of humans simply because the humans themselves are inferior"- Teclis (Storm of Magic Pg.85)
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Probably below the level of abstraction.
Is an imperial mile 1000 paces?
If they got it from dwarfs, it will be pretty close to a kilometre.
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You can cast your ascension into a Daemon Prince by a defined ritual and without the support of a Chaos God?
That does sound interesting for many people, particularly those not aligned to one of the Four.
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Well, you are what you eat and that ritual requires you to eat a bound daemon.
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K8P is the opposite of that though. Remember, Karak 8 Peaks is at the ass-end of nowhere, and it takes a year of hard travel to get here. And then it's within a Dwarfhold, which often bar visitors from most areas! Building our library into a reference for the people is pushing it, IMO. I think we should instead be capitalizing on our current assets.
FYI, we're currently low in the rankings, below a number of existing world-famous libraries all around the world. This is a long-term plan you're proposing, and it's a long-term plan where we start with a significant handicap.
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Sorry if it's been asked before, but is Karak Eight Peaks considered the FIRST successful and fully completed reclamation of a Lost Dwarfhold since the Time of Woes?
I know there's been reclamation attempts made by Dwarven that secured a foothold like in Karak Azgal, etc... But is K8P the first time the Dwarves fully retook the entire Hold?
I know there's been reclamation attempts made by Dwarven that secured a foothold like in Karak Azgal, etc... But is K8P the first time the Dwarves fully retook the entire Hold?
Karak Varn and Mount Gunbad have both been fully reclaimed for a period of decades but then lost again.
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And that's why I voted for preservation.
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Purely out of curiosity, is there any difficulties in reaching Karak Varn from the closest province (Stirland?) if the Empire was interested in aiding an reclamation attempt? Or is it the difficulty located in the Dwarfhold itself, since it's half submerged iirc?
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The entrance is level with the Black Water so it's a fair height above Stirland. There's a road there from Drebkau in southern Stirland but it's narrow, steep, and poorly maintained.
In terms of Eonir books, I think we should buy their books about themselves first, their religion history, culture, and philosophy.
I don't think we should try to shoehorn characters into scenes artificially as you propose, given that we have plenty that we already need to juggle on the project. We have Thorek to get to know better, as well as a Grey Lord and whatever other elves we haven't met yet, and I don't want to crowd them out with a fan favourite that will inevitably suck attention away from them is it's made possible. We can still vote for her in social rounds, but I fear that if she's on the project she'll essentially become a mandatory WEB-MAT pick every turn rather being judged on the merits of what contributes to the project each time.
Edit: more generally; dating a co-worker on a project is fraught with issues, even more so when you're the project leader. Even if you don't show favouritism in the allocation of resources and tasks, then people will believe you are anyway, unless you go out of your way in the opposite direction, which then causes problems with your partner, etc. It's just a source of internal conflict on the project that we simply don't need given the broader political agendas in play, we don't need to bake in these kind of inter-personal challenges.
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It is on the trade route to Cathay and travel has been made significantly safer.
Still very difficult for the average scholar but no more so than visiting Karaz-a-Karak or say traveling from Estalia to Marienburg or from Kislev to Nuln. As to how accessible it is - the Library is how Mathilde being repaid for her part in reclaiming K8P. Belegar is bound to give access to the library to whoever we tell him as long as that doesn't massively endanger the Hold.
Varn is supposed to be half submerged, largely ruined and polluted by Warpstone. There's still mining going on - dwarfs just don't want to live there.
On this last concern, if, as seems possible from the evidence, reconnecting an Old Hold to the Waystone network disintegrates any Warpstone inside it, then one possible outcome of the Waystone research project could be to solve the pollution problem.
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It's an ascension into the position of a Daemon, not necessarily a Daemon Prince. Terminology gets pretty hazy here, because Daemon Prince is the term used for those favored enough by the Dark Gods to ascend into Daemonhood, putting them in roughly the same ballpark as Greater Daemons (sometimes they're placed below Greater Daemons, sometimes they're not).
This ritual involves destroying an artifact containing a "powerful Daemon" and therefore ascending to Daemonhood. Something interesting to note about the ritual is that it does not grant the Instability special rule that Daemons typically have, which I believe is also a thing with Daemon Princes. But your power level need not be that of a Daemon Prince's and I'm not sure if the terminology would even be correct in that case since no Dark God is involved.
It should be noted that the Daemon involved here is a Bloodletter, albeit a powerful one. Khorne doesn't have degrees of servants. He's got Bloodletters and Bloodthirsters and nothing in between, but Bloodletters are typically not Greater Daemons. Skulltaker might count, but I'm not sure if the Red Flayer (the Daemon in question) is. The artifact also only contains a third of his essence as a note.
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He has Juggernauts, which are used as mounts by more powerful and favoured Bloodletters. There's also Flesh Hounds, which have a Collar of Khorne as standard equipment. And even among Bloodletters, at least on the tabletop, there are Heralds of Khorne, who are basically daemonic standard bearers.
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I don't know much about the canonical appearance of Albion, but won't the Grey Lady Magister Mathilde suspect (at first) that it is a fake and someone preying on superstitions?
What happened in Kvinn-Wyr is that the warpstone that was physically coating the actual waystone mechanisms fell off in chunks, upon which it was eaten by trolls. It didn't disintegrate and it wasn't throughout the entire mountain.
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I didn't include Beasts because they're on a separate category. I put them below Bloodletters as a result, which you might disagree with. The reason Hounds have collars as standard equipment is because Khorne is a dog guy who loves his dogs, not because they're stronger than Bloodletters or because they do more for him.
Anyways, for those interested in the mechanical effect of the ritual of Daemonhood:
In game terms, the transformation gives +20% to all physical stats and fellowship, +2 attacks, +10 wounds, +3 magic, Flier, Terrifying, Natrual Weapons, 2 AP to all locations, fearless and makes them ageless.
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How else would he walk his dogs?
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I mean, just look at this:
"Khorne favours his Flesh Hounds above all the other Daemons in his service, and he lavishes them with generous gifts." 8th Edition Daemons of Chaos Pg 31.
Khorne clearly doesn't favor Flesh Hounds above all the other daemons because they're the strongest. Bloodhunters, which are Bloodletter squad leaders, are about as strong. Heralds, Juggernauts and Bloodthirsters are all much more powerful. Yet none of them get a Collar automatically. Khorne just likes his dogs.
Dogs for the Dog God. Collars for the Collar Throne.
"Khorne favours his Flesh Hounds above all the other Daemons in his service, and he lavishes them with generous gifts." 8th Edition Daemons of Chaos Pg 31.
Khorne clearly doesn't favor Flesh Hounds above all the other daemons because they're the strongest. Bloodhunters, which are Bloodletter squad leaders, are about as strong. Heralds, Juggernauts and Bloodthirsters are all much more powerful. Yet none of them get a Collar automatically. Khorne just likes his dogs.
Dogs for the Dog God. Collars for the Collar Throne.