That's why our best hope is that the Cult of Atharti exhausts or extinguishes itself in the attempt to suppress the Slaaneshi Herald at the Temple of Khaine. Because what we want is for the Cult of Mathlann is to see an opening to try and assert control over the Ark for themselves, which would force them to overextend themselves in a bid to suppress the other smaller Druchii factions in the absence of a Supreme Sorceress at the Tor of Dominance to steer the Claw of Dominion.

And in that opening we can steal the boats we need.

Why can we expect this to happen?

Because before anything else, those adherents of Mathlann are still Druchii
 
.... An Black ark steered by cult of Mantlann, with its Khaine cult done and shathered. ...
Not the worst outcome.

Still, It be better if Athari succseds at removing competition. Only to be beat into submishion later.
So long as Voidreaper gets recked, it's not really that muuch diffrent, but Thirsting one needs to go down.

Still, preferable to sink the damned thing. After beaching it if possible.
 
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Ideally we would storm the tor , free Freddy and Eldyra plus mages while killing Alyssa and all the remaining sorceress on the ark then retreat and hide

Without anyone to pilot and control the ark as well as keep the anchorstones stable and the Slanneshi faction shattered the dark elves should start fighting each other over boats to abandon ship

From there we can steal our getaway rides
 
.... An Black ark steered by cult of Mantlann, with its Khaine culd done and shathered. ...
Not the worst outcome.

Still, It be better if Athari succseds at removing competition. Only to be beat into submishion later.
So long as Voidreaper gets recked, it's not really that muuch diffrent, but Thirsting one needs to go down.

Still, preferable to sink the damned thing. After beaching it if possible.
Again, there is probably a giant horde of Khornates on their way directly to the ark. Hultressa basically called the skull throne and told them exactly where to find it
"When they came for my daughter, the Asur Eldyra of Tiranoc gave her life to help her escape," she says, looking past you all towards the fireplace her daughter is curled up by. "I triggered every contingency and trap I had to punish them, to slow them. I also…sent a message," she glances back to you. "I confess, I was rather angry at the time, and also wounded."

And," she continues with a bit more control, "I did no such thing. No pact did I sign, no deal did I make. I simply worked to reveal a place of great magic to those who would hate it, a place where much destruction could be wrought and blood spilled. With," she rolls her hand in the air. "A messenger once bound, then released, to carry said message where it needed to go."

"Rhya's fucking tits, you sent an invitation to the damned Skull Throne," Johanna whispers in a strained wheeze.

"Not an invitation," Hultressa stresses. "Simply information that happened to be passed along in the course of our escape."

You raise one finger.

"One of the Anchorstones was destroyed, the Aethyric Net weakened. Then you weakened it again by targeting the wards protecting the Ark. Then we damaged another Anchorstone slightly."

"The great wards of the Black Arks are such that even the White Tower cannot easily locate them out upon the waters," Sadrina says tonelessly as she slumps back into her chair. "Without it…"

The worse the wards, the easier it is to actually find the damned Ark.

Nobody is getting this ark in any condition for it to sail
 
Mmm, so there's a general sort of anarchic civil war occurring on the Ark at this point, where alliances between different Druchii are flowing like the tide by the minute. One moment, aligned, one minute, treachery, as they maneuver at knife point over superiority and supplies.

A rather significant mass of Druchii aligned in a most holy manner to Atharti have rallied to a large force centered at that temple, larger than any other individual group of Druchii on the Ark save perhaps for the Cult of Mathlann and the Tor of Dominance, with smaller holdout locations now centered around individual tors, noble estates, or the Anchorstone Complexes. The Atharti horde is not being nipped at by anyone aside from Alyssans specifically at the moment because everyone knows where the followers of a Goddess who directly tries to rival Slaanesh in domain is going to go - the big portal and Exalted Herald. Outside of that you have different Druchii noble families, wealthier families, and mobs of 'civilian' Druchii looking to climb the ladder in manners most bloody. Over anyone else, but for now, not going to mess with the Tor of Dominance or the Temples because, well, too strong atm.


Thanks for commenting on this.

I just spent a good deal of time on the road and was thinking about just this topic.

In my head I was divvying up the current arrangement of power on the Ark and figured it looked kinda like this:


Alyssan forces: 45%
Druchii commoners: 15%
Druchii noble houses: 30%
Druchii Cults: 10%*

*Only the core forces of the cult.

Now at first glance it looks like Alyssa is still reigning supreme, but I was thinking that if you looked at it more granually it looks like this instead:

Alyssan forces 45%:
-15% Tor of Dominance
-15% Garrisoning the Slaaneshi portal
-15% Spread throughout the ark in penny packets defending key infrastructure

Druchii commoners 15%:
- 5-10% rallying to Atharti cult
-remainder rioting aimlessly

Druchii Noble Houses 30% (Spread between 20 noble houses)
-5% rallying to Atharti cult
-25% fighting each other, the commoners and Alyssan Loyalists

Druchii Cults: 10%
-5% Atharti- bolstered to 15-20% from other factions joining
-5% Mathlann


I think the above spread is pretty close to the current Druchii balance of power on the Ark.

Now where would I put our little rebellion/slave revolt?

At about 20% power. Enough to be a major faction, but weak enough that the remaining Druchii factions could crush us if they focused on us for any amount of time.
 
Right, they might also be on their way, but the closest ones (and thus the ones likely to get to the ark first) are in Norsca
Hmm, that might cause some problems for the forces trying to kill the Northern dwarves and the Old One worshippers. Especially if the Khornate forces and the Slaaneshi forces make tracks for the Ark, one side to destroy it and the other side to bolster the Slaaneshi worshippers already on it.
 
It would be hilarious if the Khorne aligned contigent sieging Kraka Drak suddenly up and start to leave and sail cause they received a summons from Khorne to go attack the Ark. Leaving the king furious at not punishing the heretics, and start a chain of backstabs.
 
just a random food for thought question, would the other Druuchi attempt to reclaim the Black Ark if it crashes into Norsca? It's heavily damaged by the fighting and most slaves would have escape with Freddie or by themselves if they were not killed in the fighting.
 
just a random food for thought question, would the other Druuchi attempt to reclaim the Black Ark if it crashes into Norsca? It's heavily damaged by the fighting and most slaves would have escape with Freddie or by themselves if they were not killed in the fighting.
maybe , they can't exactly make new ones so each one is an irreplaceable asset of world wide force projection , granted this won't matter as the high elves will know about before the dark elves and send a force to make sure its gone for good
 
maybe , they can't exactly make new ones so each one is an irreplaceable asset of world wide force projection , granted this won't matter as the high elves will know about before the dark elves and send a force to make sure its gone for good
Iirc Word of God is something like they're technically capable of making a new one, it's just very dangerous and Morathi would prefer watching her rivals explode trying to do it than do it herself
 
I will also say that no, this is not TWW. The Druchii do not pay a small token fee to spawn new Black Arks. Almost every BA currently active are former chunks of Nagararythe. You don't know how many they have, but it is not infinite.
This was the WoG on the Black Ark production line I think there were some more throughout the thread. They can spawn more, doing so is on the level of a multiple years long government sponsored action.
 
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They've been willing to beach them in the past, and in the case of that one time at Tor Anlec in Nagarythe, were SO confident about that invasion of Ulthuan that they straight up disassembled it to build Tor Anlec back up into a proper fortress city again. They also beached two more during the GW canon Shadows of Albion to either be broken down into the new colony of Nagronath or at minimum provide protection for it as it was rapidly built up and staffed.
 
Speaking of black arks, torroar how much dark elves lost in their latest invasion of Ulthuan back in GWAC? Not asking for exact numbers but would you say they lost a not insignificant chunk of their military or it was just some vanguard stuck there after N'kari and his portals went defunct?
 
Mmm, I'd say that one of the important things about the GWAC is that they very, very heavily leaned on Morathi and Chaos for it. Morathi was sent north and brought 'gold, slaves, and pleasures too numerous to name' to bribe out a massive invading army of Northmen, and when they sailed for Ulthuan for the GWAC proper, it was 'alongside a host nearly as great as their own'. So they basically nearly doubled their forces with Northmen. Then, during the GWAC, because the Everqueen kept evading him, he started to figure this might not be that one glorious moment where he fully won even though he was basically razing across all of Ulthuan with literally just Lothern and the White Tower of Hoeth able to 'check' the advance of his forces. That was when he decided to summon up N'kari, and their daemonic legion to further reinforce his troops, whilst he simultaneously started to draw down his best and most loyal Dreadlords and send them back to Naggaroth, while actually keeping those who had failed him too many times/were not as loyal as he'd liked/etc. were those who remained behind. So he had the rest of the Northmen, the lesser Dreadlords who had unknowingly or knowingly lost his favor, and a horde of daemons and what not.

So basically his best troops overran Ulthuan, and then he sent his best troops back home and used the weaker/worse Druchii troops, daemons, Chaos Norsemen, and even then after Teclis re-activated the Flame of Asuryan burns in him, Kouran Darkhand the most loyalist Druchii ever hacked his way through three separate Asur attempts to stop him leading the core of Malekith's handpicked troops back to Nagarythe and then back to Naggaroth. There were other Druchii who basically stripped naked to speed up and try to escape, but it's specifically Malekith's elite core who folloed Kouran out, so we can presume the others who got hunted down with prejudice to be those Malekith was actually outright planning on trying to get killed already.

Of course afterwards was the civil warring a smidge with Malekith indisposed in the Realm of Chaos, but still.

So I'd say that the Druchii probably nonetheless lost some good amount of troops, but not enough to cripple their military power too badly. The fighting Druchii that remained behind and took a while to actually fully boot out in canon were still there too, so like...yeah.
 
So I'd say that the Druchii probably nonetheless lost some good amount of troops, but not enough to cripple their military power too badly.
afterwards though its been set back after set back
like first was a civil war while Malekith was presumed dead
then they lost a black ark to the Everqueen's security detail
then they got fully booted of Ulthuan
then they lost another two black arks in Ostland one captured and the other unlikely to survive

like the black arks alone are a big deal since those are pretty much fully populated elven cities and elves are not exactly plentiful these days its arguably as bad to them as losing a Karak is to the dwarfs
 
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