I was asking for your understanding of my mistake, not your translator's translation.
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I was asking for your understanding of my mistake, not your translator's translation.
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It's okay, Warhammer is a very wide and deep world in terms of lore, don't worry about it. The others described Merchant Princes hopefully well. They're basically Merchants with enough personal concentrated wealth to wield power and influence comparable to nobility, even if they are common born. Some are actually proper nobles, but most are not.
It's okay, Warhammer is a very wide and deep world in terms of lore, don't worry about it. The others described Merchant Princes hopefully well. They're basically Merchants with enough personal concentrated wealth to wield power and influence comparable to nobility, even if they are common born. Some are actually proper nobles, but most are not.
To add to already stated:
Oligarhs are a thing, buggers with inheritatory fortunes as well as self made man or lucky fortune winners, whom became rich in a night.
Money translates to favors, tlanslates to influence and if one is aviable it can legimetly purchaise a noble title.
Tilea is famous for backstabing competitions and mercenart joustings while Marienburg is more structcurized with the Ten familis effectifly acting as legalized syndycate, since money is money to some types.
Saburo Arasaka would be somewhat fitting comparison - boss of a company, but considered equil to an emperor.
Politics in other words.
Laptop appears to have half died. Refuses to charge, can sort of function if plugged in but any disconnect of power cord kills it immediately. No data loss so far, but still not great to see it become desk only if I can't figure this out. Very unfortunate.
It's always something, it seems.
It's always something, it seems.
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I'm willing to chip in to pay for whatever is needed to repair or replace it.
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Make sure to backup your files, or keep them on a flash drive.
Same. The offer stands, just like the last time this happened years ago.
I second that, if I can help in any way I'm willing to.
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If I were to change the setting of Survivor of Salkanten from a merchant prince to a simple merchant family or commercial aristocrat, would that make sense?
Apart from that, I'm sorry that I live in Korea and can't help you, but hopefully the repair shop will be able to resolve the issue.
PS:Ah yes, the possibility of giving Laurelorn and High Elves access to magic from Albion...?
If I were to change the setting of Survivor of Salkanten from a merchant prince to a simple merchant family or commercial aristocrat, would that make sense?
Apart from that, I'm sorry that I live in Korea and can't help you, but hopefully the repair shop will be able to resolve the issue.
PS:Ah yes, the possibility of giving Laurelorn and High Elves access to magic from Albion...?
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What I am about to say maybe a bit of oversimplification, but merchant prince=Samsung CEO, except on a city level not a country level
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...that would require access to magic from Albion.
Which as I recall is limited to currently one insane and incredibly traumatised Truthsayer who the Druchi captured, who we are assuming knows that magic in the first place, or would be willing to share what I believe are sacred secrets.
Albion is currently completely inaccessible for extremely good reasons and that's before you get into the questions of
A) Would something that is designed (presumably) for humans work on elves
B) Is anything Albion has better than what the elves have through (if no one else) the Everqueen and nature spirits etc.
Perhaps, IIRC its meant to be Old One derived, but so is the Elves tradition of magic. At the end of the day there are much more fundamental questions of practicality to answer first.
I wish Torroar the best and add that I would be willing to chip in for repairs.
Appreciate the offers, but hopefully will be unnecessary. I'm still fiddling with things to try and figure things out.
Not quite. Her family is quite wealthy, mercantile wise, but given their noble status on the ladder they would simply more count as actually quite wealthy nobility, rather than a proper Merchant Prince family. Even Sabine, personally, hasn't made and held onto a fortune large enough to count for that sort of thing. Not to mention, by hitching her cart - literally - to the Hohenzollerns as she has, she really wouldn't be up for the title due to being split between the aforementioned wealthy noble family and an actual Provincial Dynasty nobility. The High Elves, furthermore, have the Avatar of Isha, their mother Goddess of many things but also Fertility itself, who literally just wanders Ulthuan casting blessings of said fertility and what not around them. They still have issues which are not so easily solved, whether due to the length of time it takes for their pregnancies to actually finish, how vulnerable they are while that happens, and actual fertility stuff, plus the utterly unique issue of the Great Vortex being present in the center of their island which is a literal world altering magic sucking forever storm thing.
As for Laurelorn, I've never suggested they have population issues. In fact, in previous posts in the thread, not thread marked ones admitedly, I stated...actually let me go and find the two most relevant ones.
The Wood Elves, in general, are never portrayed as fading like the Asur or waxing on the same level as the Druchii, but are a curious middle thing, thriving on their own in their own territories for the most part. Whether Asrai or Eonir, I mean.
One of the main issues facing Ulthuan's population is that they are constantly under attack by the Druchii, Chaos, Norscans, and sometimes greenskins. Another is that they whole themselves as The World's Shield, and often send out armies out into the world to do what they consider good works, clashing with the dark forces of the world far from home, trying to stop world breaking rituals, terrible daemon summonings, etc. They have outposts and defensive holds at distant points watching the oceans and are constantly stretched thin. You know what I mean?
Not quite. Her family is quite wealthy, mercantile wise, but given their noble status on the ladder they would simply more count as actually quite wealthy nobility, rather than a proper Merchant Prince family. Even Sabine, personally, hasn't made and held onto a fortune large enough to count for that sort of thing. Not to mention, by hitching her cart - literally - to the Hohenzollerns as she has, she really wouldn't be up for the title due to being split between the aforementioned wealthy noble family and an actual Provincial Dynasty nobility. The High Elves, furthermore, have the Avatar of Isha, their mother Goddess of many things but also Fertility itself, who literally just wanders Ulthuan casting blessings of said fertility and what not around them. They still have issues which are not so easily solved, whether due to the length of time it takes for their pregnancies to actually finish, how vulnerable they are while that happens, and actual fertility stuff, plus the utterly unique issue of the Great Vortex being present in the center of their island which is a literal world altering magic sucking forever storm thing.
As for Laurelorn, I've never suggested they have population issues. In fact, in previous posts in the thread, not thread marked ones admitedly, I stated...actually let me go and find the two most relevant ones.
The Wood Elves, in general, are never portrayed as fading like the Asur or waxing on the same level as the Druchii, but are a curious middle thing, thriving on their own in their own territories for the most part. Whether Asrai or Eonir, I mean.
One of the main issues facing Ulthuan's population is that they are constantly under attack by the Druchii, Chaos, Norscans, and sometimes greenskins. Another is that they whole themselves as The World's Shield, and often send out armies out into the world to do what they consider good works, clashing with the dark forces of the world far from home, trying to stop world breaking rituals, terrible daemon summonings, etc. They have outposts and defensive holds at distant points watching the oceans and are constantly stretched thin. You know what I mean?
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Kinda like how while Asur dragons are fading away from world/entering deep sleep, forest dragons are thriving since adapting to new state of world.
And most don't trust anyone but themselves to deal with world's issues.
Like, if they and the dwarfs were still friends I'm sure things would be more manageable as a whole, but sadly that is not case, and humans are too young and primitive to trust them with anything in their minds.
So yeah, that would run anyone ragged.
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I was talking about the stuff that comes out of here, not the entire Albion magic system.
Thanks for the kind words @torroar
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So, the thing about this, is...Salkalten's actual main city did not receive damage. The exceptional thing about the battle is that it was not a siege. The civilians were evacuated behind the walls fully. Now, the sea walls and dockyards were literally blown through or run over by the Arks, and while military casualties were not negligible, civilian deaths were. By which I mean essentially none. If someone's wealth was solely tied up in warehouses or things like that in the dockyards, it has likely financially ruined some, but of deaths enough to drive vengeance for more than a thousand, even hundreds, into going out into the world with swords in hand is uh. Not a thing, pretty much.
Possible, technically. However, consider: try and go out into the world and fight monsters and what not, in unfamiliar conditions, with likely no prior combat training or equipment beyond a cudgel or knife?
Or get paid to work in removing debris and rebuilding home while surrounded by veteran soldiers with the ability to go back into home city for drinks and rest afterwards.
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And if you're that nuts about purging dark elves for their wrong-doings, the Flagellants are a more likely destination.
Though whoever gets tapped to search-and-catalogue the still parked Black Ark is in for a Fun (TM) time. Doubly so given Nordland and the Cult of Manaan have a pretty chonky claim on any resulting gains (I think?). Magnus and his siblings are going to have their hands full.
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I always put that down to the time warped nature of their forest homes, there are glades in those forests in which hundreds of years could pass on while only mere days on pass on in the rest of world giving them all the time they need to raise new generations of elves, which lets them absorb casualties way easier
Yeah that uh, that's pretty much stated. They literally wax and wane with the seasons due to how they are entwined with the forests, but the inherent trend towards growth and longevity of said growth plus their general treatment of winter as something to be endured means that unless they've taken some pretty bad hits in rapid succession they are quite springy with their pop numbers. The sheer warping nature of the magical forests is such that history/memory itself can be somewhat rewritten, at least in Athel Loren. Its noted especially in canon that the way they measure time makes no sense for almost anyone else, IIRC, because how past, present, and future can and do blur for them. Less so in Laurelorn, but still.
The term is 'bourgeoisie'.
the definition is quite litterally 'Super rich nobles'. to call her a merchant princess would be a DOWNgrade.
To pull a bit more from the 8th Edition armybook, which...sure has some things which I disregard - I still don't jive with the whole shoveling of Slaanesh-Aeldari relationship into Warhammer Fantasy between Slaanesh and the elves on the same soul stealy-level with soulstones and blahaj.
The Wood Elves, by contrast, neither grow nor dwindle, but are as timeless as the forest in which they dwell. Long ago, at the very beginning of Elven history, a pact was forged between the spirits of the wood and the Elves over the sea. Now, shaped by that accord, the Wood Elves stand at once on the cusp of greatness and on the brink of extinction, living in anticipation of that day on which Athel Loren will burst its bounds
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Time flows strangely under the eaves of Athel Loren; a day can pass in an eye-blink or stretch away into eternity. Indeed, it can do both at once, for the passage of the seconds is never so subjective as it is within the forest's timeless glades. As a result of all this, the time within Athel Loren rarely overlays precisely with that of the outside world. This is compounded by the fact that time is not even uniform within Athel Loren. Winter never leaves some of the ancient glades, and there are places where the sun burns bright all year round. Despite the challenges posed by the nature of their realm, the Wood Elves manage to maintain surprisingly accurate records of their own histories. They instinctively balance their perceptions with the forest's ever-changing flow of time, and find it remarkable that other creatures cannot master something so ridiculously simple.
There are notes of the forest elves capable of multiplying like never before with bountiful enough harvests, things like that. And, again, I'll note that Laurelorn is not Athel Loren, especially now so. Laurelorn is not avaricious enough to with to desire to explode outwards and overrun the world, and is honestly just a bit...simpler, than Athel Loren in mindset. Still, it sort of contradicts the not growing or dwindling, for Athel Loren even, because as long as they're winning without losing too many people, they're growing. It's just that they are either winnowed by the danger and unforgiving nature of - well, nature - of their environment or are simply able to expand their numbers in the canopy-cities because of the sheer breadth and scope of Athel Loren's life-giving nature in terms of things to hunt or fruit to pluck off the ground and grapes to grow, etc. Laurelorn, again, to a lesser extent. It's less magical, but as stated, has a near population parity. And though the Eonir have never really wanted to expand their borders much, merely keep the ones they have, their mastery of their homeland has ensured that they have inflicted massively disproportionate casualties on all invading forces like, 95% of the time. It's only when the enemy manages extremely powerful workings, or manages to penetrate into the interior to poison the realm, that they have extreme trouble. As you saw with both Gruber/Slugtongue and later the Bone Gate.
The Wood Elves, by contrast, neither grow nor dwindle, but are as timeless as the forest in which they dwell. Long ago, at the very beginning of Elven history, a pact was forged between the spirits of the wood and the Elves over the sea. Now, shaped by that accord, the Wood Elves stand at once on the cusp of greatness and on the brink of extinction, living in anticipation of that day on which Athel Loren will burst its bounds
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Time flows strangely under the eaves of Athel Loren; a day can pass in an eye-blink or stretch away into eternity. Indeed, it can do both at once, for the passage of the seconds is never so subjective as it is within the forest's timeless glades. As a result of all this, the time within Athel Loren rarely overlays precisely with that of the outside world. This is compounded by the fact that time is not even uniform within Athel Loren. Winter never leaves some of the ancient glades, and there are places where the sun burns bright all year round. Despite the challenges posed by the nature of their realm, the Wood Elves manage to maintain surprisingly accurate records of their own histories. They instinctively balance their perceptions with the forest's ever-changing flow of time, and find it remarkable that other creatures cannot master something so ridiculously simple.
There are notes of the forest elves capable of multiplying like never before with bountiful enough harvests, things like that. And, again, I'll note that Laurelorn is not Athel Loren, especially now so. Laurelorn is not avaricious enough to with to desire to explode outwards and overrun the world, and is honestly just a bit...simpler, than Athel Loren in mindset. Still, it sort of contradicts the not growing or dwindling, for Athel Loren even, because as long as they're winning without losing too many people, they're growing. It's just that they are either winnowed by the danger and unforgiving nature of - well, nature - of their environment or are simply able to expand their numbers in the canopy-cities because of the sheer breadth and scope of Athel Loren's life-giving nature in terms of things to hunt or fruit to pluck off the ground and grapes to grow, etc. Laurelorn, again, to a lesser extent. It's less magical, but as stated, has a near population parity. And though the Eonir have never really wanted to expand their borders much, merely keep the ones they have, their mastery of their homeland has ensured that they have inflicted massively disproportionate casualties on all invading forces like, 95% of the time. It's only when the enemy manages extremely powerful workings, or manages to penetrate into the interior to poison the realm, that they have extreme trouble. As you saw with both Gruber/Slugtongue and later the Bone Gate.
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