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@torroar
Hi, I know End Times Delenda Est, but there is some really fucking weird trivia I found out about Eldyra, courtesy of 1d4chan and the Warhammer Wiki, and I have to ask, is this some kind of elaborate trolling attempt or will Eldyra actually become the Avatar of Ereth Khial during the End Times? The Warhammer wiki lists "Eldyra, Avatar of Ereth Khial" under the Leaders section of the sidebar in its End Times page (The End Times) but doesn't appear to actually recount Eldyra becoming her incarnation in the actual page itself (as far as a CTRL+F can find anyway, I'm not reading that trainwreck in full). It instead appears to say that Eldyra was forcibly turned into a vampire by Vlad von Carstein and then was mercy killed by Tyrion at her request?

And then 1d4chan says this under the End Times section of Ereth Khial's page (Ereth Khial - 1d4chan):



So what the fuck am I reading? Is Eldyra destined to be a vampire convert, ascend to godhood, or both? This is apparently the same Eldyra that was turned into a bloody pile of tortured meat by Tullaris Dreadbringer for the purposes of DoDA, sure, but was there a secret supernatural connection I didn't know about? Did someone slip drugs into my coffee today?

EDIT: Seriously, what does this mean for the purposes of DoDA?
It means nothing. Ignore it, as far as this quest is concerned.
they're still gonna have to kill other slaves in front of a large audience, some of which may have seen them in the initial assault on the tor
Point of order, that's not a big deal.
 
[x] Plan Frozen Fish Focus
-[x] Target a single aquaculture site, preferably a fresh water one.
-[x] Target should be understaffed and with ruined/empty buildings near the entrance for someone to lurk - good conditions for infiltration and especially escape are more important than water type.
-[x] Natasha and Jaqueline infiltrate disguised as slaves assigned from elsewhere arranged by Hultressa with whatever forgeries or cutouts are needed to obscure her involvement. Disguises should be different from their day to day slave disguises and if Hultressa can implicate some other player all the better.
-[x] Roland lurks near the entrance to the site keeping an eye on the planned escape route(s) and ready to attack the entrance to provide support to their exit.
-[x] Nat and Jaq take the time to learn the layout and operation so they can do maximum damage. This is important not only for this attack but future raids on other sites where they'll need to strike for maximum effect in the limited time window of hit and run assaults. When they go loud Nat concentrates on destruction of both fish stocks and plumbing with ice magic while Jaq handles the violence against people to protect her and killing essential personnel if she can.
-[x] When they fight their way out, go loud so that Roland can tell that the exit is happening.
-[x] Meanwhile Hultressa can acquire bomb making supplies.
 
@torroar does Hultressa have anything that can poison a whole fish farm?

Sheeeee could make some pretty potent poisons, but just like with magical stuff, poisons are sort of a big deal for Drucchi in terms of methods of detection/tracking.

IC and OOC, straight up more 'primitive' measures like black powder have a higher level of going undetected/untracked after usage because as a Ghrond-origin Ark, the Claw's people are substantially more magically-focused.
@torroar
Hi, I know End Times Delenda Est, but there is some really fucking weird trivia I found out about Eldyra, courtesy of 1d4chan and the Warhammer Wiki, and I have to ask, is this some kind of elaborate trolling attempt or will Eldyra actually become the Avatar of Ereth Khial during the End Times? The Warhammer wiki lists "Eldyra, Avatar of Ereth Khial" under the Leaders section of the sidebar in its End Times page (The End Times) but doesn't appear to actually recount Eldyra becoming her incarnation in the actual page itself (as far as a CTRL+F can find anyway, I'm not reading that trainwreck in full). It instead appears to say that Eldyra was forcibly turned into a vampire by Vlad von Carstein and then was mercy killed by Tyrion at her request?

And then 1d4chan says this under the End Times section of Ereth Khial's page (Ereth Khial - 1d4chan):



So what the fuck am I reading? Is Eldyra destined to be a vampire convert, ascend to godhood, or both? This is apparently the same Eldyra that was turned into a bloody pile of tortured meat by Tullaris Dreadbringer for the purposes of DoDA, sure, but was there a secret supernatural connection I didn't know about? Did someone slip drugs into my coffee today?

EDIT: Seriously, what does this mean for the purposes of DoDA?

Buddy, I tried to read what you wrote, but when I tried to do it, my vision was obscured by this weird red void which subsequently obscured all five senses. I couldn't hear anything except for this titanic irregular heartbeat, thundering so loudly through that sanguine abyss that it was shaking my bones to fragments and dust within me whilst pancaking my organs into flattened paste. I floated there, unable to die but unable to live, a ruined wreck of meat and calcium, screaming in my mind for an eternity. I drifted there until the broken beats of that thing I can only term as a cloven God-Heart came to a shuddering halt, the red of the void curdling into a greenish then utterly black ruin of rot - an infinite ocean of clotted, rotting, unmoving blood which eventually dried and transformed into a sedimentary layer of rusted essence.

After a few more eons, there was this reality-splitting crack and tear as what had already become a new mountain range, and that fragment that which was once me fell forwards out of the yawning mouth of Ymir, from who's body the world was forged, and through Ginnungagap. In that incandescent, lifeless, void that would be there before and after the egg of reality was laid and cracked open, I was reformed, and deposited back here in the chair of the place I am now house/pet sitting at.

So, sorry, but whatever it is you wrote, I don't think I want any part of it cause I don't want to have to deal with that again.
 
I'm of the opinion that before we try to forment any gladiator rebellions we need to get the farms down first. All three need to rise up at the same time to have a chance. Which means we need to get the Druchii looking everywhere BUT the Arenas, and apply pressure to get the general populace to be more concerned about the next meal over entertainment. Then when they are distracted, we can forment rebellion more easily. And if we don't get the timing down exactly it'll be more forgiving. Because to get all three going off means either one agent each or Freddie goes off and does it because no gladiator is going to follow Hultressa.


[x] Plan Frozen Fish Focus
-[x] Target a single aquaculture site, preferably a fresh water one.
-[x] Target should be understaffed and with ruined/empty buildings near the entrance for someone to lurk - good conditions for infiltration and especially escape are more important than water type.
-[x] Natasha and Jaqueline infiltrate disguised as slaves assigned from elsewhere arranged by Hultressa with whatever forgeries or cutouts are needed to obscure her involvement. Disguises should be different from their day to day slave disguises and if Hultressa can implicate some other player all the better.
-[x] Roland lurks near the entrance to the site keeping an eye on the planned escape route(s) and ready to attack the entrance to provide support to their exit.
-[x] Nat and Jaq take the time to learn the layout and operation so they can do maximum damage. This is important not only for this attack but future raids on other sites where they'll need to strike for maximum effect in the limited time window of hit and run assaults. When they go loud Nat concentrates on destruction of both fish stocks and plumbing with ice magic while Jaq handles the violence against people to protect her and killing essential personnel if she can.
-[x] When they fight their way out, go loud so that Roland can tell that the exit is happening.
-[x] Meanwhile Hultressa can acquire bomb making supplies.


This is a decent opening shot where in we can use it as a test case. Because after this the City will be on high alert and any subsequent action will be less forgiving.
 
[X] Plan: They Should Have Killed Me

Seems to be the plan most are going for, so will choose this one I suppose.
 
The concern I have with 'They should have killed me' is that Jacqueline has some subterfuge experience, but sending her on her own negates her advantage with squad tactics.

WHEN we want to work on the Arenas, we should send her and Roland, at least, together.

Really, best to keep all three together as much as possible for most of the options.


For Frozen fish focus, wouldn't it be better to try to have the sabotage be done subtly if possible? Also, it might be better for Roland to be there too. Hultressa could provide a means for them to vanish into a crowd or a dark alley or something if they do need to run.

I know the plan has her getting gun powder materials, but I think she could do that while Nat and the others are entering the aquaculture site and be done before they are.
 
The concern I have with 'They should have killed me' is that Jacqueline has some subterfuge experience, but sending her on her own negates her advantage with squad tactics.

My thought is she'll form a new squad there. There will almost definitely be other brettonians. And we can send Roland in later, her role at this point will be to try and establish a network.
 
[x] Plan Frozen Fish with 3 and quiet

Throwing my vote at this one for now.

May the dice be with us. Hiting multiple targets might be the way to go, as we know that while we do things there are other players moving and doing stuff too. Even if multiple targets/objectives is risky.
 
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Buddy, I tried to read what you wrote, but when I tried to do it, my vision was obscured by this weird red void which subsequently obscured all five senses. I couldn't hear anything except for this titanic irregular heartbeat, thundering so loudly through that sanguine abyss that it was shaking my bones to fragments and dust within me whilst pancaking my organs into flattened paste. I floated there, unable to die but unable to live, a ruined wreck of meat and calcium, screaming in my mind for an eternity. I drifted there until the broken beats of that thing I can only term as a cloven God-Heart came to a shuddering halt, the red of the void curdling into a greenish then utterly black ruin of rot - an infinite ocean of clotted, rotting, unmoving blood which eventually dried and transformed into a sedimentary layer of rusted essence.

After a few more eons, there was this reality-splitting crack and tear as what had already become a new mountain range, and that fragment that which was once me fell forwards out of the yawning mouth of Ymir, from who's body the world was forged, and through Ginnungagap. In that incandescent, lifeless, void that would be there before and after the egg of reality was laid and cracked open, I was reformed, and deposited back here in the chair of the place I am now house/pet sitting at.

So, sorry, but whatever it is you wrote, I don't think I want any part of it cause I don't want to have to deal with that again.

Genon said:
Did someone slip drugs into my coffee today?

Ah, so you were the one who slipped the drugs in my coffee when I made that post! Word of advice: Don't get high on your own supply. :rofl::lol::rofl::lol:
 
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[x] Plan Frozen Fish Focus
-[x] Target a single aquaculture site, preferably a fresh water one.
-[x] Target should be understaffed and with ruined/empty buildings near the entrance for someone to lurk - good conditions for infiltration and especially escape are more important than water type.
-[x] Natasha and Jaqueline infiltrate disguised as slaves assigned from elsewhere arranged by Hultressa with whatever forgeries or cutouts are needed to obscure her involvement. Disguises should be different from their day to day slave disguises and if Hultressa can implicate some other player all the better.
-[x] Roland lurks near the entrance to the site keeping an eye on the planned escape route(s) and ready to attack the entrance to provide support to their exit.
-[x] Nat and Jaq take the time to learn the layout and operation so they can do maximum damage. This is important not only for this attack but future raids on other sites where they'll need to strike for maximum effect in the limited time window of hit and run assaults. When they go loud Nat concentrates on destruction of both fish stocks and plumbing with ice magic while Jaq handles the violence against people to protect her and killing essential personnel if she can.
-[x] When they fight their way out, go loud so that Roland can tell that the exit is happening.
-[x] Meanwhile Hultressa can acquire bomb making supplies.
 
I'm leaning toward frozen fish ficus, but still have the same concerns I mentioned before. This is an attempt at correcting those, but I'm concerned about splitting the vote when it's this close.

[] Plan Frozen Fish with 3 and quiet
-[] Target a single aquaculture site, preferably a fresh water one.
-[] Target should be understaffed and with ruined/empty buildings near the entrance for someone to lurk - good conditions for infiltration and especially escape are more important than water type.
-[] Natasha, Jaqueline, and Roland infiltrate disguised as slaves assigned from elsewhere arranged by Hultressa with whatever forgeries or cutouts are needed to obscure her involvement. Disguises should be different from their day to day slave disguises and if Hultressa can implicate some other player all the better.
-[] They take the time to learn the layout and operation so they can do maximum damage. This is important not only for this attack but future raids on other sites where they'll need to strike for maximum effect in the limited time window of hit and run assaults. Nat concentrates on destruction of both fish stocks and plumbing with ice magic. Sh'ell try to do so subtly but if things get loud Jaq and Roland will handle the violence against people to protect her and killing essential personnel if they can.
-[] Whenever possible, Hultressa can look into bomb making supplies.
-[] But her priority will be to help provide a way out for the others when they need it.

[X] Plan Frozen Fish with 3 and quiet
-[x] Target a single aquaculture site, preferably a fresh water one.
-[x] Target should be understaffed and with ruined/empty buildings near the entrance for someone to lurk - good conditions for infiltration and especially escape are more important than water type.
-[x] Natasha, Jaqueline, and Roland infiltrate disguised as slaves assigned from elsewhere arranged by Hultressa with whatever forgeries or cutouts are needed to obscure her involvement. Disguises should be different from their day to day slave disguises and if Hultressa can implicate some other player all the better.
-[x] They take the time to learn the layout and operation so they can do maximum damage. This is important not only for this attack but future raids on other sites where they'll need to strike for maximum effect in the limited time window of hit and run assaults. They also keep an eye out for signs of dissension or reluctant workers, looking for possible needed recruits. They will need more agents to gather more intelligence, target more sites, and plot a wider revolt going forward. If the opportunity for sabotage presents itself, Nat concentrates on destruction of both fish stocks and plumbing with ice magic. Sh'ell try to do so subtly but if things get loud Jaq and Roland will handle the violence against people to protect her and killing essential personnel if they can.
-[x] Whenever possible, Hultressa can look into bomb making supplies.
-[x] But her priority will be to help provide a way out for the others when they need it.

Edit: made the revisions I mention in a later post.
 
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