Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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torroar said:
The Great Stag's unearthly bellow echoed out across the field again. Stephan chanced it, ducking back behind the spear line, and glanced to the west. There, outright standing atop it on her own two feet, was the Lady Dawnstone. He could not read her features from here, especially with her helmet, but he didn't need to. He saw enough as she hurled javelins with remarkable strength, each one puncturing right through the rushing Druchii, shields and all. She shouted something and pointed at a rolling altar of brass and black steel upon which sat a bubbling cauldron of blood and a trio of Death Hags. Uncaring of its wounds, or perhaps simply unbothered by them, the stag began to charge, ducking its head and skewering a half dozen more Druchii upon its horns as it went.
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But yeah. Naraiel is personally fighting alongside Stephan atop her Great Stag, even.
 
THey're probably doing alright because for all the ferocity that the Druchii fight with, with their giant monsters and experienced by sheer age commanders. The fact remains that TWO BLACK ARKS LANDED HERE.
And we've more or less resisted the first few waves and killed their Legendary Lord. That leads me to believe that the rest of the attacks were minor raiding actions and we're due for a massive reinforcement wave by the time they're done over there. Hopefully by sea so we can surround them. :OVERLY OPTIMISTIC NOISES:
 
TehChron said:
No we havent, we've killed a legendary lord.

But Dreadbringer and their Grand Sorceress are still in play. We still have a ways to go before we inflict any damage that Druchii society would feel at large, rather than saving Malekith the trouble of making an example out of an unruly subordinate
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The death of Dreadbringer alone would be so amazing, I'm simultaneously excited and terrified about the possibility of ending him. Like, I want him dead, but the possible reprisal that death could invite also has me rather worried.
 
TheCynicalPogo said:
The death of Dreadbringer alone would be so amazing, I'm simultaneously excited and terrified about the possibility of ending him. Like, I want him dead, but the possible reprisal that death could invite also has me rather worried.
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Malekith might see it as an opportunity to gain more control over the Cult as opposed to reason for an assault, considering the recent war.

Hellebron though…yeah.

Assuming it happens I mean, obviously. *knocks on wood*
 
Malekith would probably not stick his hand on ostoland if we crush them so thoroughly. He may have many flaws but he is hit with the stupid hammer very often. we don't have the phoenix throne.

Kaine (both of him really) would get his murder bonner through, is such a valuable target.
Well at least until the Druichi get another defeat and get a newer target to direct their hatred to.
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
Malekith might see it as an opportunity to gain more control over the Cult as opposed to reason for an assault, considering the recent war.

Hellebron though…yeah.

Assuming it happens I mean, obviously. *knocks on wood*
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For some reason I can imagine Malekith thanking us a bit in his head, like "Hmm, those humans killed that guy that I was probably going to have to kill someday. Maybe I'll make their deaths 1% less painful as thanks...nah"

Hellebron or anybody else as fanatically obsessed with Khaine as her and Dreadbringer for sure are gonna be pissed with us, especially if we also piss off Khaine too by killing its little murder-boy, but hopefully Ulthuan will keep them occupied in the long run so that it turns into a "we're on their list" kind of situation than anything else
 
TheCynicalPogo said:
Hellebron or anybody else as fanatically obsessed with Khaine as her and Dreadbringer for sure are gonna be pissed with us, especially if we also piss off Khaine too by killing its little murder-boy, but hopefully Ulthuan will keep them occupied in the long run so that it turns into a "we're on their list" kind of situation than anything else
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Or if you know. We get blessed by Khaine and she instead decides to back us as long as we don't fight Malekith/Druchii.
DOn't look at me like that. That was definitely in the rolls at one point!
 
Curious, if the dark elves are forced to retreat for us... what does that mean for them reputation wise?

I mean, it makes sense to retreat from high elves if needed since seen as equals, but as mentioned never in history of Empire or maybe even human history in general has a black ark been actually driven back. What would happen to surviving dark elves if they actually were?

In their society I would assume that would make them viewed as weak and thus open for attack since its dog eat dog with them.
 
Hey Torroar, was the black dragon Zacharias drank from a Black Dragon, or just a black Dragon?

Massgamer said:
Curious, if the dark elves are forced to retreat for us... what does that mean for them reputation wise?

I mean, it makes sense to retreat from high elves if needed since seen as equals, but as mentioned never in history of Empire or maybe even human history in general has a black ark been actually driven back. What would happen to surviving dark elves if they actually were?

In their society I would assume that would make them viewed as weak and thus open for attack since its dog eat dog with them.
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Probably happen yes, but there are Eonir here…and sadly things would probably be very different if not for them, much as the idea of a powerful Empire is enticing.
They'll probably focus on that.

Assuming they retreat/we win. *knocks on wood*
 
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EVA-Saiyajin said:
Hey Torroar, was the black dragon Zacharias drank for on a Black Dragon, or just a black Dragon?
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A full on Black Dragon. Based on what I've read, I don't think there are any 'natural' specific black dragons. Shard Dragons are their own weird thing, though Magma Dragons are also their own weird actively malicious thing. And they're...sorta black in scale color, based on what we've seen. But they also live deep, deep underground.

So yeah. I've judged it as Black Dragons that escaped Naggaroth and settled down for a nice long sleep and got drunk to death quietly in its slumber by Zacharias. At the same time, I wouldn't necessarily say that its nature as a Black Dragon altered his personality or whatever, he was already mainlining Dhar on the regular. Besides which, vampires by their nature can, literally, sorta metabolize Dhar. It's not super great, but they can, so it's not the same as a regular human trying to suck all the magic out of a dragon through a ritual.
 
Massgamer said:
Curious, if the dark elves are forced to retreat for us... what does that mean for them reputation wise?

I mean, it makes sense to retreat from high elves if needed since seen as equals, but as mentioned never in history of Empire or maybe even human history in general has a black ark been actually driven back. What would happen to surviving dark elves if they actually were?

In their society I would assume that would make them viewed as weak and thus open for attack since its dog eat dog with them.
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Barring them pointing to the 110 Eonir as the sole reason they retreated. (Which has its own issues) They would see some leaders publicly executed for incompetence, others assassinated by rivals. A bunch of the surviving nobles and their retainers exiled to the wilderness to become Shades. The remaining commoners may get mass-conscripted for long service in the Northern Chaos Waste garrisons. Very few will emerge from this in any semblance of a good position.
 
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torroar said:
A full on Black Dragon. Based on what I've read, I don't think there are any 'natural' specific black dragons. Shard Dragons are their own weird thing, though Magma Dragons are also their own weird actively malicious thing. And they're...sorta black in scale color, based on what we've seen. But they also live deep, deep underground.

So yeah. I've judged it as Black Dragons that escaped Naggaroth and settled down for a nice long sleep and got drunk to death quietly in its slumber by Zacharias. At the same time, I wouldn't necessarily say that its nature as a Black Dragon altered his personality or whatever, he was already mainlining Dhar on the regular. Besides which, vampires by their nature can, literally, sorta metabolize Dhar. It's not super great, but they can, so it's not the same as a regular human trying to suck all the magic out of a dragon through a ritual.
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Ok that's pretty cool, thank you.

But…if Zacharias' zombie dragon was the one he drank from…it was an Emperor in size.

Was that a naturally unnatural result of the Druuchi's "experiments" like the ones you mentioned on Venomfang, or something Zacharias managed after he drank and killed it and it became his frankenstein attack dog?

It's a lot scarier if it's the former because it means the Druuchi can engineer dragons of that size without them being naturally aged.

Edit: Actually now that I think about it , if it is the former it may have played a part in the dragon being able to escape. Even with Black Dragons there is a risk, and making them super powerful has them even more so.
 
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EVA-Saiyajin said:
Edit: Actually now that I think about it , if it is the former it may have played a part in the dragon being able to escape. Even with Black Dragons there is a risk, and making them super powerful has them even more so.
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Drucchi beastmasters: 'Success! We create an Emperor Black Dragon!"
Emperor Black Dragon: "RRRROOOAAARR!" *Proceeds to snap it's shackles and glares at it's so-called Drucchi masters.*
Drucchi: "OH Shit! We created an Emperor Dragon!"
 
Consider: it is noted specifically in the Army books and wiki that (bolded emphasis mine):
  • were enchanted with Dark Magic that would both corrupt and enhance the unborn Dragons within.
  • Due to the excess of Dark Magic pulsing within their bodies, Black Dragons are notoriously stronger than their pure-blooded counterparts, without the horrific side-effects of mutation common in most such tainted creatures.
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So, really, consider that between two dragons, one of Ulthuan or even just the Old World, compared to a Naggarothi Black Dragon, on average it is the latter that is stronger.

It also depends on how you consider maturity speeds in dragons. If, going by Asur nomenclature, a Sun Dragon is young and fiery, but then:

Those Dragons that surpass the Sun Dragons in might and enlightenment are known as Moon Dragons

That doesn't actually tell us ages. It just tells us strength and presumably a nebulous mind/wisdom/etc. thing which encompasses their standard of enlightenment. Only the Star Dragons are given even a vague age bracket i.e. poetically 'as ancient as the very stars of firmament'.

So is it not possible for a newborn dragon to be born on Ulthuan that is exceptionally strong and remarkably wise? Much like how we can have people whose minds and bodies seem to outdo their peers in real life despite age similarities? Do you call that a Moon Dragon, then?

So really, age has something to do with it, yes, but so does flat out might and mind count as well.

As far as I know, the Black Dragons are not termed by the Caledorian Sun/Moon/Star, nor by the Old World Dragon/Great Dragon/Emperor Dragon rankings.

Just...Black Dragons. Malekith's mount is noted to have been directly stolen and warped for a century from Caledor itself when the Druchii first fled to Naggaroth and was such a prick that when it was born it began destroying all the eggs around it that it could immediately. It's likely benefitted from regular 'enhancing' efforts as well since to keep up as they continue to experiment. But Seraphon is likely the oldest Black Dragon alive now. Is it a Star Dragon equivalent now, or was it already centuries or longer ago?

They've also presumably been forcing production as they like as well, because there are approximately 0% signs that there is any lethargy affecting the Black Dragons, and by 8th Edition powerful Druchii can afford to simply purchase eggs to devour to give themselves considerable power ups. Which no sane Asur would even consider with their equivalents which are noted to be quite few in their egg laying and hatching.
 
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torroar said:
They've also presumably been forcing production as they like as well, because there are approximately 0% signs that there is any lethargy affecting the Black Dragons, and by 8th Edition powerful Druchii can afford to simply purchase eggs to devour to give themselves considerable power ups. Which no sane Asur would even consider with their equivalents which are noted to be quite few in their egg laying and hatching.
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Wait a second

Is that what Caledors Bane was getting ready to down before gravity-kun got their hooks into him and Venomfang?
 
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