Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism
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Unlikely.
Weapon Skill 7+ is a hell of a thing
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So I've been thinking of loot and gains recently ,about the corps of the Black Star Dragon and its loot potential/value
Its blood is an incredibly powerful rare runic regent/magical component/ alchemical ingredient at least a dozen plus large barrels of it and this is a star dragon so the potency and power is of the highest quality not to mention both high in demand and very low in supply so we can rightfully charge an ogre Steelback's weight in gold per barrel
the Dragon's internal organs and meat are also incredibly powerful rare runic regent/magical component/ alchemical ingredient but since they are even more limited in supply since you can only sell its heart once ect.. , the buying cost is something along twice Urdug's full(in armor of course) weight in gold
then there are the stuff we keep , the dragon's claws and teeth can be made into weapons a cut above anything else made of mundane material but their real worth shines when those weapons are enchanted , the Dragon's bones would make for the most powerful of magic staffs only beaten by true masterpieces like the Stuff of Volnus and they be used to make the very best bows and polearms again receptive to powerful enchantments and lastly the dragon's scales and skin when processed into leather are one of the few materials that are in the same league as gromril also able to be enchanted to great effect
and that is just the one dragon , their is another dragon downed by the knights somewhere in the city and a third one we might yet slay
Its blood is an incredibly powerful rare runic regent/magical component/ alchemical ingredient at least a dozen plus large barrels of it and this is a star dragon so the potency and power is of the highest quality not to mention both high in demand and very low in supply so we can rightfully charge an ogre Steelback's weight in gold per barrel
the Dragon's internal organs and meat are also incredibly powerful rare runic regent/magical component/ alchemical ingredient but since they are even more limited in supply since you can only sell its heart once ect.. , the buying cost is something along twice Urdug's full(in armor of course) weight in gold
then there are the stuff we keep , the dragon's claws and teeth can be made into weapons a cut above anything else made of mundane material but their real worth shines when those weapons are enchanted , the Dragon's bones would make for the most powerful of magic staffs only beaten by true masterpieces like the Stuff of Volnus and they be used to make the very best bows and polearms again receptive to powerful enchantments and lastly the dragon's scales and skin when processed into leather are one of the few materials that are in the same league as gromril also able to be enchanted to great effect
and that is just the one dragon , their is another dragon downed by the knights somewhere in the city and a third one we might yet slay
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I, get the love of loot and whatnot, but it's really hard to think about something that may as well be a thousand years in the future when we still have this battle to survive and, ideally, win.
Any chance Freddy could get a mid-battle magical recharge by chomping down on a chunk of raw Black Dragon flesh?
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@torroar Just one thing, in this quet safe it is the use of dark elf magic items by humans?
Because while my first instinct was to treat them as just as unsafe as chaos or skaven items a couple of friends that have been DM in Warhammer Tabletop RPG that there are many instantes that should be safe to use (because most Dark Elves actively try to mantain their sanity, and not fall to chaos meaning that most of their enchanted items have almost no effect on their user's psyche)
Because while my first instinct was to treat them as just as unsafe as chaos or skaven items a couple of friends that have been DM in Warhammer Tabletop RPG that there are many instantes that should be safe to use (because most Dark Elves actively try to mantain their sanity, and not fall to chaos meaning that most of their enchanted items have almost no effect on their user's psyche)
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i kinda want to know this as well it would be nice to have that lance as a war trophy to hang on a wall in Wulfenburg castle together with a dragonskull
Not a chance. That would probably risk turning him into Chaos Spawn. Just an all around bad plan.
it's vampire food. Perfect for our returning friends to turn into cathay elixers or outright become blood independent.
I wouldn't drink that if I were them.
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I liked how in this update we got Bokdrungni, Freddy's Martial, Alexandra's The Frozen Promise, The Light of Summer, Freddy's infamous "Hohenzollern Regimen", all working into one cohesive narrative flow as they display the gains Freddy has made throughout the quest. Karak Ungor was worth Kragg the Grimm making Freddy something. Alexandra going to Kislev is worth The Frozen Promise. What I really liked though was seeing them in combat, like with how Natasha and Freddy had a strategy already in place to handle a peer flying opponent. The armor survived it's first boss fight! Bokdrungni got to show off all it's abilities, and was useful instead of constantly failing rolls.
Thumbs up for naming Maranith's dragon Venomfang!
Great update, the whole thing was honestly amazing for a pov where the protag was locked in combat while the army was struggling without it's main general. Shame about those mercs, Eldyra, and how everything isn't perfectly perfect, but it is manageable. Melted artillery... Not all the army is dead, still got those flagellants, the dark elves are finally moving their main forces, both sides magic advantage has been stalled, two black dragons are dead. I'd say that we came off ever so slightly better in this exchange.
1. Is Tullaris Dreadbringer a avatar of Khaine, like the Everqueen, Ariel, Orion, Avatar of Anath Raema, and whatever Morai-Wen were? I hope Morai-Wen is still alive, dragons die with frequency in this quest.
2. How did Tullaris Dreadbringer end up on this Black Ark mission to hit Salkalten? Or was this mission being sponsored by Morathi's rival Hellebron, the hag ruler of Har Ganeth (the City of Executioners aka Khaine worship capital)? There was a Ghrond (Morathi will fall fanclub!) Ark, and a Clar Karond (Anath Raema worshipers) sponsored Ark. The only hint of a third player is the two Black Arks have access to the spy network of the druchii in Ulthuan. However, I had thought that these two Black Arks had been spared the high elf anhilation because any black ark is not worth denying being informed about an immanent high elf strike on the location of your Black Ark.
3. Has it been a full day that the Black Arks have landed in Salkalten, or somewhere around a few hours?
And the differences in martial ability granted to different people has been noted before in this quest, not just for Freddy. But that ended up in a thing our QM did not take too well, so... It should be expected that Magnus the Pious and Gunthar would either be equal or be higher in martial if we ever fought them. And that if we were to spar with Roland right now, Roland would be a peer opponent, or maybe higher in martial level than us.
Different circumstances, different locations, different rolls, different people, all translate into different outcomes.
Freddy's martial score isn't just his combat ability, it's also his ability to be a general on the field, which is not what Freddy is best known for, even though he led the campaign to save Nordland, and that campaign was won through logistics and leadership. Rather than simply taking out the boss monster (Aftermath wise I mean, without all that set-up from the Nordland campaign the stuff after that in the quest would not have turned out like it did.). What's not quite as obvious though is that Freddy's ability as a general is known to those of Ostland's army, who have faith in Freddy's ability as a general. Or that other people also have faith in Freddy's ability as a war general outside of Ostland. Freddy is not a combat fanatic who goes searching around to kill the strongest, toughest monster on the field of combat while the army sits back.
Edit: Plus, Greenskins, and all the terrors of the world are just scary strong foes against humans. Notably greenskin boys who have had aroundish near two decades plus more than that due to the former boss and infighting years prior to those around two decades of growing strong through fighting. (Specifics of their growth might be 15-ish years under multipe warbosses, with perhaps five more years under a strong warboss that led them against skaven, then a few years of in-fighting)
Thumbs up for naming Maranith's dragon Venomfang!
Great update, the whole thing was honestly amazing for a pov where the protag was locked in combat while the army was struggling without it's main general. Shame about those mercs, Eldyra, and how everything isn't perfectly perfect, but it is manageable. Melted artillery... Not all the army is dead, still got those flagellants, the dark elves are finally moving their main forces, both sides magic advantage has been stalled, two black dragons are dead. I'd say that we came off ever so slightly better in this exchange.
1. Is Tullaris Dreadbringer a avatar of Khaine, like the Everqueen, Ariel, Orion, Avatar of Anath Raema, and whatever Morai-Wen were? I hope Morai-Wen is still alive, dragons die with frequency in this quest.
2. How did Tullaris Dreadbringer end up on this Black Ark mission to hit Salkalten? Or was this mission being sponsored by Morathi's rival Hellebron, the hag ruler of Har Ganeth (the City of Executioners aka Khaine worship capital)? There was a Ghrond (Morathi will fall fanclub!) Ark, and a Clar Karond (Anath Raema worshipers) sponsored Ark. The only hint of a third player is the two Black Arks have access to the spy network of the druchii in Ulthuan. However, I had thought that these two Black Arks had been spared the high elf anhilation because any black ark is not worth denying being informed about an immanent high elf strike on the location of your Black Ark.
3. Has it been a full day that the Black Arks have landed in Salkalten, or somewhere around a few hours?
We faced a peer opponent in Hirtzeller during the last EM.
And the differences in martial ability granted to different people has been noted before in this quest, not just for Freddy. But that ended up in a thing our QM did not take too well, so... It should be expected that Magnus the Pious and Gunthar would either be equal or be higher in martial if we ever fought them. And that if we were to spar with Roland right now, Roland would be a peer opponent, or maybe higher in martial level than us.
Different circumstances, different locations, different rolls, different people, all translate into different outcomes.
Freddy's martial score isn't just his combat ability, it's also his ability to be a general on the field, which is not what Freddy is best known for, even though he led the campaign to save Nordland, and that campaign was won through logistics and leadership. Rather than simply taking out the boss monster (Aftermath wise I mean, without all that set-up from the Nordland campaign the stuff after that in the quest would not have turned out like it did.). What's not quite as obvious though is that Freddy's ability as a general is known to those of Ostland's army, who have faith in Freddy's ability as a general. Or that other people also have faith in Freddy's ability as a war general outside of Ostland. Freddy is not a combat fanatic who goes searching around to kill the strongest, toughest monster on the field of combat while the army sits back.
Edit: Plus, Greenskins, and all the terrors of the world are just scary strong foes against humans. Notably greenskin boys who have had aroundish near two decades plus more than that due to the former boss and infighting years prior to those around two decades of growing strong through fighting. (Specifics of their growth might be 15-ish years under multipe warbosses, with perhaps five more years under a strong warboss that led them against skaven, then a few years of in-fighting)
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Tullaris is the Herald of Khaine whule Malekith is known as the Avatar of khaine.
But Malekith uses it more for political power while Tullaris is the closer to what an avatar of khaine actually should be. A problem that Malekith is worried but didnt push it since Tullaris was content with the situation.
But those are what I can glean from the wiki.
But Malekith uses it more for political power while Tullaris is the closer to what an avatar of khaine actually should be. A problem that Malekith is worried but didnt push it since Tullaris was content with the situation.
But those are what I can glean from the wiki.
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When it comes to his ultimate goals and desires, Malekith was always more of a ruler than a warrior. Not that the latter isn't the case. Still, if anything, it marks him closer to Asuryian than Khaine, which makes sense given his history and ambitions.
Then again, Khaine has multiple facets called "the thousand faces of Khaine" so I wouldn't be surprised if Malekith either created an aspect of rulership tied to the god of murder or tries to embody it in a manner similar to the Phoenix King and Asuryan.
Then again, Khaine has multiple facets called "the thousand faces of Khaine" so I wouldn't be surprised if Malekith either created an aspect of rulership tied to the god of murder or tries to embody it in a manner similar to the Phoenix King and Asuryan.
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The Black Dragons would just be Dhar drinks for the vamps, and while yes, they are horrible undead monstrosities, there's such a thing as too much Dhar for them. Zacharias was a perfect example of that actually. Black Dragons are just an all around terrible thing to consume, literally the only thing I can imagine that'd be worse for the health of anyone, are Chaos Dragons or literal daemon flesh and the like
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Seriously, everything bad in Warhammer has its origins in the Druchi, especially in people trying to get power ups from the Druchi. Khermi was destroyed when Nagash used magical lore he tortured out of a captive Dark Elf sorcerres to invent Necromancy and the corruption of Athel Loren happened from Ariel deciding to study dark magic from Morathi.
Dark Elf magic, not even once.
Moreover that something is magical but still allows a Dark Elf to maintain their sanity, (for a given value of sanity anyway) wouldn't necessarily allow a human to do the same. Humans just can't handle magic to the extent that elves can in Warhammer.
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Frederick is not magical, what kind of recharge are you expecting?
The Light of Summer is tied to Laurelorn, nothing happening on this battlefield is going to help or hurt it.
That''s even before we get into how toxic Black Dragon flesh is to humans. Just no.
The elixirs may work, but its already been established that the Vampire has to drain a living Dragon's Heartblood to get the release from the Curse. We are not going to keep a bloody Black Dragon alive for friendly-ish vampires Frederick hasn't seen or heard from in over two decades.
So it'll require more processing than normal to get a usable elixir at worse. Big deal. A dragon is a dragon and these ones might be compromised, but the Dark Elves are at least competent enough in the use of Dhar not to turn their valuable dragons into ticking timebombs.
They are hilariously competent in all the worst ways as proven here.
We have an Ice Witch for a wife and are friends with the colleges.
We're going to keep the dragon materials one way or the other.
Selling it for gold is simply not cost effective given it's uses in skilled hands.
We should just hand the dragon corpses over to Barak Varr tbh.
The more dragon reagents they have the more high tier runecraft dawi society as a whole can produce.
Venomfangs heart likely still being intact would be an absurd windfall for whatever Runelord gets their hands on it.
The more dragon reagents they have the more high tier runecraft dawi society as a whole can produce.
Venomfangs heart likely still being intact would be an absurd windfall for whatever Runelord gets their hands on it.
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My idea / hope is that Freddy contains so many sources of holy or Order-aligned magic (Sigmar's Blessing, Gazul's Blessing, the Everqueen's Blessing, the Widow's Blessing) that they will filter out any Dhar / Chaos magic in the Black Dragon flesh and allow him to digest only the magical goodness when he eats it.
"Magical recharge" was a poor choice of words on my part. What I meant was more like "magical buff". I'm expecting the Black Dragon flesh to be able to heal Freddy's wounds, give him a charge of super-strength, perhaps even allow him to fly!
Do they know how to purge Dhar?
Iunno, but who else is gonna do anything constructive with it?
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I don't think dhar is as great an issue for vampires to drink from Black Dragons as it could be, one of the Cathay dragon dynasties greatly favoured Dhar (the Shu). And while dhar is corruptible and damaging over time for it's user, much less a whole dynasty that used dhar extensively but notably grew weaker with each generation. The Black Dragons of Naggaroth are not chaos dragons. They are dragons, changed, twisted and obedient. Yet still dragons that are possibly some sort of evolution that adapted dhar resistance, or wear dhar like some old dragons wear one of the winds of magic.
Dragons are already notably resistant to the influence of magic, not immune, but they are very notably possessive of greater resistance than many Old One Creations where the physical mutative influence of the winds is concerned.
Even if we keep the dragon materials for a few years, instead of immediately hand them over to anyone, or sell them for a useful cash infusion (we can always make good use of gold). The black dragons do likely have dhar issues, unless the everqueen herself cleanses the remains not destroying the dragons is going to carry risk with dhar for whatever we do with them. The dawi, the Eonir, and maybe the colleges of Magic might be able to use dhar soaked materials. Freddy cannot make use of the material, if Kislev could use the material is intriguing. Far as I know Kislev shouldn't have the ability to make use of dhar, on the other hand highly risky magic tradition that in some ways is similar to dhar.
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Like I'd really much rather a new high tier piece of Runic Equipment come out this dragon than its remains become a trophy or a vampire smoothie or whatever
Those things have strategic level impact
The Eonir can keep the lance and we can use whatever windfalls we can get for rebuilding after this clusterfuck is over with
Those things have strategic level impact
The Eonir can keep the lance and we can use whatever windfalls we can get for rebuilding after this clusterfuck is over with
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