I hope we get to see her in action. Possibly launching a ballista bolt into the eye of a giant.
Shame we hate maw ogres. Those guys would EAT the beast tide. That would be hilarious.
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Shame we hate maw ogres. Those guys would EAT the beast tide. That would be hilarious.
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Curious, worst case scenario does the Empire's alliance with Kislev cover internal disputes at all if they get real bad and Kat's asks for help? I don't expect her to of course just curious.
Also worried if civil war gets bad enough Chaos might take advantage while country is divided. Norscans might be busy but we know eastern hordes still regularly attack.
Also worried if civil war gets bad enough Chaos might take advantage while country is divided. Norscans might be busy but we know eastern hordes still regularly attack.
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I think that would weaken Kat's position as a lot of the tension or justifications for the conflict is that Kat is too involved with/reliant on foreigners , so her getting outsiders involved might be counter productive , it might even be the set up for a second round of civil waring since there could be talk of her victory not being decisive enough since she relied on outsiders
a nation like Kislev is defined by the fact that demon worshiping super Vikings and the chaos versions of the Huns and Mongolians are always just over the border ready to cross in force at the first sign of weakness or opportunity , so Kislev might have developed some traditions in regards to conducting internal strife in response to that , like limited ritualized battles when waging a civil war or maybe battles are settled by champions when possible rather that armies clashing and stuff of that nature
plus you have to remember Kat's opposition are the boyar marcher lords , the ones who's lands at the boarder with the chaos wastes and the darklands , so they have the most to loses if the forces of chaos attack during the civil war
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And that is the frustrating thing about this whole mess, that helping out would make things worse amongst the traditionalists.
Sure Kat isn't perfect, downright bloodthirsty actually since her husband's death and closed off her heart, but she does care for Kislev long term wellbeing and I like to think based on rumor mills at least that she has done more good than bad for country.
True, but also one of her sons, the Chosen of Tor, is also working against her last we heard about him. Kinda worried he could be named Tzar in a coup attempt and likely has backing of royals against Kat too.
Wasn't her plan to push as many reforms as possible to prep for chaos, then relinquish power/lose right when chaos or another threat appears to force the continued adoption of the reforms?
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Not exactly. You're making a interpretation with some key points missing.
The main goal for Kattarin was to improve Kislev, not specifically for a chaos invasion, but any future threat. Kattarin's major opposition to doing something as simple as a universal weight system is Kislev pride in tradition. Pride is a major obstacle for her, as much as it is a benefit to her reforms.
Kattarin was prepared to move at the pace of a century of planning. Turn 18 is where Kattarin chose to stop moving at the pace of a glacier, accelerating into a spring thaw.
I have no idea where you grabbed Kattarin would make a political move of relinquishing power if Kislev is at war with an outside threat as a plan Kattarin thought up or intends to act on.
There is the seed drill. Very roll dependent if the players take the seed drill to Kislev related action, however the seed drill can represent proof on the benefits of Kislev not standing alone against chaos and all the things that threaten Kislev. Not even the traditionalists in the empire can deny the seed drill has been beneficial for a nation. Needs DD though.
The point is the players can interfere in Kislev without it exploding in their face, absolute safety not guaranteed. At least the players could take the action in Turn 39, I don't know what the political landscape will look like in Turn 40. Freddy dead, Kislev rather obviously in a civil war, Kislev failed to uphold the mutual defense agreement with the empire, the armies of the empire paralyzed with the beast-tide, only Hochland's count is still alive, the emperor dead, all religious political leaders dead, the Skaven invade somebody, the vampires skulk in the shadows, a surprise tomb king invasion...? Perhaps Turn 39 won't end like that.
What's the empire's best case scenario relative to the growing Beast-Tides? Realistically. Not some fantasy where the beast-tide is taken out by something like a skaven invasion, or the beast-tide allows the empire to further grow past this turn without an attempt at an devastating attack on the empire.
Once we headplant an Everchosen before Big Magnus and Gunthar, we should be there.
Not guaranteed mind you, but just about.
Edit: A more serious answer on top of my head: More blessings from the gods, putting more effort in cleaving with their teachings may grant us further bonuses. Sigmar and Ulfric in particular. If we manage to jumpstart the Myrmidian faith and devote some time and effort in studying their teachings, we may get boons that way (unlikely as it may seem as of now).
Elf Magic (Also unlikely at this moment in time) can also grant boons I think.
Though honestly, I don't think we can get past the 40's barrier other than more magic and gods lending us a hand. Freddy's getting up there in age and though he's still really strong, I doubt we'll be able to see him gain even more this late in his life.
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Get unimaginably, impossibly, murderously enraged. Engine of Rage put us at Martial 40 in Lovely Laurelorn.
I wouldn't recommend it though, given the circumstances with which it has activated.
Is there anything else we could try other than that? Maybe strengthening runes on our armor or something?
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Runes on any Armor would take far too long to bump our martial past 40 before Freddy starts really feeling the effects of age, magical buffs are temporary in nature, our sword of choice is the best we're ever gonna get... can't really think of anything for right now.
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Yeeeah barring any new magical equipment, Freddy getting REALLY PISSED, divine intervention, or Teclis marrying into the family and really cranking the regular family sparring up a few notches 
? I'm not seeing any Soon increase avenues.
? I'm not seeing any Soon increase avenues.
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Tyrion, Teclis is the wizard.Yeeeah barring any new magical equipment, Freddy getting REALLY PISSED, divine intervention, or Teclis marrying into the family and really cranking the regular family sparring up a few notches
Y'know I'd think both would kick up the sparring sessions
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Tyrion's busy making woo-woo eyes at the Everqueen
, I'm being considerate!Teclis isn't a slouch at martial combat to my knowledge, and the family sparring already includes magical attacks in it sometimes. It'd just up the game a bit! 🧙♂️
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Y'know I'd think both would kick up the sparring sessions
Teclis WS is honestly awful, he's just got the fancy sword that instagibs on good contact. Probably a bit spicy to train with it.Tyrion's busy making woo-woo eyes at the Everqueen
Teclis isn't a slouch at martial combat to my knowledge, and the family sparring already includes magical attacks in it sometimes. It'd just up the game a bit! 🧙♂️
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Well, we have a steam tank... That's a military application of steam tech... a farming or logging tractor would be possible. Even though it would take an engineer, even a primitive tractor can plow much more ground than an animal pulled plow... a train... or steamships, either river paddle wheels or ocean steamers. since we are getting charcoal, I'm guessing we are getting ready to produce gunpowder on an industrial level. that could lead to the paper cartridge. maybe a greek fire/dragon's breath style weapon for our ships. mortars and exploding shells. breach loading cannons. Copper cladding for our ships to make careening easier and lower upkeep.
Just a few ideas.
Also i didn't look to see if the QM has given a hard no on any of these, so some of them may not be possible. and if he has said no to them, please don't start badgering him about it again cause i'm lazy.
Just a few ideas.
Also i didn't look to see if the QM has given a hard no on any of these, so some of them may not be possible. and if he has said no to them, please don't start badgering him about it again cause i'm lazy.
Biggest problem is probably going to be getting people to stay out of the engine's fuel supply. This is Ostland, after all.
Although it might become a saying that in Ostland, even the machines are heavy drinkers. I can just imagine someone on a vapor cycler swigging on a flask and pouring some into his cycler, just sharing a drink with his buddy. And mocking the guys on horses whose mounts run on oats and hay instead of ostka.
The problem is we are trying to produce industrial era equipment with medieval level technology. We haven't even reached the renascence era yet, We don't even have a way to mass produce steel yet. It takes a ludicrous amount of resources just to make one steam tank, an entire research slot and a lot of money not to mention the experience actually needed to build the thing.
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though instead of tractor equivalents, we could start with simpler applications, like it happened with real-life steam power. Like powering lathes, mills, sawmills, pumps (in mines, for irrigation, drainage, canal locks, drydocks...), threshing machines... That'd be cheaper in engineers and we should be getting a good bang for our buck
But yeah, finding way to increase our steel production (with maybe something like the Bessemer process) would be necessary for wide-scale application of steam powers.
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I can imagine a future where an Ostlander lifts up entire kegs of Ostka: One for himself and the others for his swole power armor.
So I just reread the story posts recently and something occurred to me:
@torroar apologies if this has been asked before and I just forgot but have the Ogres integrated enough in the cults that if one of them should have an inclination for magic they can integrate smoothly as a priest? I know arcane magic is rather beyond Ogres, but hopefully non-Maw divine magic is doable otherwise any who are gifted with magic are chaos bait.
@torroar apologies if this has been asked before and I just forgot but have the Ogres integrated enough in the cults that if one of them should have an inclination for magic they can integrate smoothly as a priest? I know arcane magic is rather beyond Ogres, but hopefully non-Maw divine magic is doable otherwise any who are gifted with magic are chaos bait.
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