Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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Massgamer said:
Well I'm sure a war wagon with a half a dozen or so swivel canons is much more mobile being pulled by a horse or two and doesn't need to stop moving while shooting enemies.
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That's assuming the recoil doesn't overturned the chariot when the first shot is fired, or when all of them are fired at once.

The only way i could think of making swivel cannon work during offense is making a steamtank and putting the on top of it but i don't think we are going to get one that soon.

i don't think the swivel wagon would do any better with what the dash cannon already does.
 
Restalaan said:
I doubt we can put swivel cannons on chariots, as to putting it on wagons, we already have one. It is called the dash cannon.
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They are not dash cannons. These are dash cannons. They're called dash cannons because they're smaller than great cannons (though still bigger than Dwarven ones) and because you can attach a horse to the carriage to move them around the battlefield. They still need to be set up before firing.
 
Crazy thought, but something the Amethyst Wizards could be quite good at: killing diseases, tumors, agricultural pests/weeds, and other such unpleasantness. Also, food preservation; just seal up the item you want preserved and then zap it with Death Magic to kill anything that could rot it.
 
Restalaan said:
That's assuming the recoil doesn't overturned the chariot when the first shot is fired, or when all of them are fired at once.
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Swivel cannons are very small compared to other cannons and thus wouldn't have that large of a recoil like you are talking about so could safely be used on a war wagon.

Also pretty quick to reload with only one or two person needed before firing again.
 
The Sandman said:
Crazy thought, but something the Amethyst Wizards could be quite good at: killing diseases, tumors, agricultural pests/weeds, and other such unpleasantness. Also, food preservation; just seal up the item you want preserved and then zap it with Death Magic to kill anything that could rot it.
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Death magic...in food.

Darwin, we are your failures.
 
The Sandman said:
Crazy thought, but something the Amethyst Wizards could be quite good at: killing diseases, tumors, agricultural pests/weeds, and other such unpleasantness. Also, food preservation; just seal up the item you want preserved and then zap it with Death Magic to kill anything that could rot it.
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Not sure Death magic would be that accurate in general in targeting certain living things within living things they mainly simply kill everything it touches.
 
Hangwind said:
Death magic...in food.

Darwin, we are your failures.
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Normally, your food is already dead when you eat it. The magic is to kill bacteria, fungi and anything else that might otherwise start growing on it.

I'm assuming that the magic doesn't stick around after you stop using it if you're not using vast quantities of it or trying to permanently enchant the food. The food shouldn't be retaining death magic any more than eggs become radioactive when you use UV radiation to sterilize them.

Also, you'd obviously test this in a lab first before large-scale implementation.

Massgamer said:
Not sure Death magic would be that accurate in general in targeting certain living things within living things they mainly simply kill everything it touches.
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That's what the training at the Wizard College is for.
 
You see right now ideas like those, while possessing a lot of potential to become awesome, a liable to get someone burned at the stake.

So let's hold off on such right now.
 
The Sandman said:
Crazy thought, but something the Amethyst Wizards could be quite good at: killing diseases, tumors, agricultural pests/weeds, and other such unpleasantness. Also, food preservation; just seal up the item you want preserved and then zap it with Death Magic to kill anything that could rot it.
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The Amethyst college is the most rigid and disciplined college regarding rules against even trying things like this.
 
Did someone say cannon wagons?

Like many good(and sometimes bad) ideas, Tilea has them:
 
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Dutch said:
Mass. Magic literally corrupts the human form. Not the Chaos kind, but it changes the mind and body of those whom wield it. In the eyes of the Cults it's literally damning people. From a theological point of view it doesn't matter that they aren't corrupted by Chaos, they're being corrupted by an outside force and that's bad juju. (Execpt for Divine Lore, but that's another can of worms)
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The entertaining bit is that the Gods warp their followers (especially the spell-casting priests) in exactly the same way. And people sometimes wonder why the elves are so condescending of humans...
 
DragonParadox said:
The entertaining bit is that the Gods warp their followers (especially the spell-casting priests) in exactly the same way. And people sometimes wonder why the elves are so condescending of humans...
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Even more entertaining when you remember that they too can be completely warped by the different aspects of their god and they don't even have the excuse of not knowing :D
 
Alex pears said:
Even more entertaining when you remember that they too can be completely warped by the different aspects of their god and they don't even have the excuse of not knowing :D
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They knowingly embrace it for power and they are at least aware of the choices they make and their consequences. Humans on the other hand babble about how their gods are going to do this and that when the gods are nothing more than reflections of their worshipers' expectations.
 
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Qeqre said:
Did someone say cannon wagons?

Like many good(and sometimes bad) ideas, Tilea has them:
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Nope.

You invented Dash Cannons before Bronzino could even be born. Because that's effectively what purpose they excel at.

You institutionalized his radical idea over a century before he could have it. It's a different name, and they are a tad heavier...but they are also more powerful and have teams of engineers for each.
 
DragonParadox said:
Humans on the other hand babble about how their gods are going to do this and that when the gods are nothing more than reflections of their worshipers' expectations.
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While unknowingly circular reasoning by the humans. It's not exactly wrong...

"the people expect the gods to do this, therefore the gods do this, therefore it is proof of their expectations of what said god is going to do being correct."

torroar said:
Nope.

You invented Dash Cannons before Bronzino could even be born. Because that's effectively what purpose they excel at.

You institutionalized his radical idea over a century before he could have it. It's a different name, and they are a tad heavier...but they are also more powerful and have teams of engineers for each.
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Fair enough.
 
I've done the math, and for the lore purposes of this quest the Empire doesn't have pretty much any of its experimental tech.

The College of Engineers (canoncically Nuln having the only major one) got officially chartered by Magnus within this generation.

Individually their engineers are going to be of higher quality over your own, while their Great Cannons and Handguns are usually going to be superior to yours. That is due to them more tightly sticking to quality over quantity, holding as closely as possible to their traditions as they can as a direct reaction to the Wulfenburg school. They are far more dwarf like in their meticulousness than Wulfenburg.

(Side Note: This is an 'average' situation, there are likely still to be those who excel regardless, like with Anna and some of her peers)

But yeah.

No Helstorms (because Boris Todbringer isn't around to get almost get shot by one yet so that they can be 'dubbed' thus over his ranting to the crew...and considering his time of running around them not getting named for more than a century of service is ridiculous thus they can't have been invented yet.)

The various deranged engineers like the ones who made the Helblaster Volley Gun, mechanical horse mount, Long Rifle, etc. aren't around. I don't mean that they have just been born, but that they aren't to be born until the late 2400's at the least.

Contrast that Anna managed to create Bird Bomber flocks regardless. The information, the principles behind most of the 'experimental tech' of the Empire in 2520 are still there. It just takes something to spark the idea to get to that point.

Now then, if you'll excuse me, I got breakfast to do.
 
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Basically we got all sorts of super unreliable prototypes ahead of their time but its a crapshoot unless we got a hero engineer on it?
 
no

you don't have them, like I just said

If they were to get invented, the kinks would no doubt get worked on regardless. Canonically using them in the field did a great job of this, allowing them to be used more regularly in Empire armies.
 
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