To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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Congratulations to the S'harin crew for settling in together and finding their pattern as an explorer crew and not just a crew.
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EDIT: Anyone have any ideas for recasting Saavik?* Given her age in Vulcan years, and her appearance on the show in 2005, I'm probably looking for actresses who were born in the early or mid-1970s.
*I seriously considered a reappearance for her, but one of the actresses who played her retired and the other is the same one who got the character recast in the first place by asking for too much money, and that was before the two Emmy awards.
*I seriously considered a reappearance for her, but one of the actresses who played her retired and the other is the same one who got the character recast in the first place by asking for too much money, and that was before the two Emmy awards.
There's no guarantee they'll stay in the star system, you know. It's entirely possible that they follow an interstellar migration pattern, spending years coasting ballistically between stars, like space albatrosses instead of space whales.
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So 196 political will at the Snakepit.
-50 to Development faction, -5 Office 36 = 141
50 Betazoid Counsellors
~3 resource colonies = 24
Then whatever else you want. (Gah, so unenthused about more diplomatic pushes. Do we have to?)
-50 to Development faction, -5 Office 36 = 141
50 Betazoid Counsellors
~3 resource colonies = 24
Then whatever else you want. (Gah, so unenthused about more diplomatic pushes. Do we have to?)
lbmaian
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Not a large bounty this time around (15pp, 30rp), but we do get an Apiata ratification next year.
Still, we now have 196pp for the upcoming snakepit (with 50pp to be allocated by development faction).
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Oh...this system. Is that hysterical laughter?
Interesting that Challorn sees some action right after her previous captain left for a FYM. It's a good thing the Challorn didn't engage a Jaldun.
It's events like this that makes we wonder with all the catastrophy-scale negative space wedgies the universe can throw out at you, how the heck did life even evolve and survive to reach the stars.
Is it just the Federation that's unlucky, or do Klingons and other less scientifically nations also encounter such issues, with the end result being a lost colony world?
Huh, this sounds like a series of event rolls, where S'harien succeeded on a combat or shield roll, but might have failed (or at least got mediocre rolls) some others for this neutral result. Other than the experience that accrues from events.
That's awesome. Was just playing Stellaris recently, and this reminded me of the neutral Tiyanki gas grazers warping around.
Hrm, need more science. Or better ships in general.
Hah, how typically Amarkian
Still, we now have 196pp for the upcoming snakepit (with 50pp to be allocated by development faction).
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Oh...this system. Is that hysterical laughter?
Interesting that Challorn sees some action right after her previous captain left for a FYM. It's a good thing the Challorn didn't engage a Jaldun.
It's events like this that makes we wonder with all the catastrophy-scale negative space wedgies the universe can throw out at you, how the heck did life even evolve and survive to reach the stars.
Is it just the Federation that's unlucky, or do Klingons and other less scientifically nations also encounter such issues, with the end result being a lost colony world?
Huh, this sounds like a series of event rolls, where S'harien succeeded on a combat or shield roll, but might have failed (or at least got mediocre rolls) some others for this neutral result. Other than the experience that accrues from events.
That's awesome. Was just playing Stellaris recently, and this reminded me of the neutral Tiyanki gas grazers warping around.
Hrm, need more science. Or better ships in general.
Hah, how typically Amarkian
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The Klingons accidentally blew up their homeworld's own moon not twenty years ago.
lbmaian
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As long as it's not on any affiliates, we're not in danger of overstretching ourselves. Our defense is going to start skyrocketing starting next year, so any new affiliates over the coming years shouldn't be an issue.
Right now is the prime opportunity to take advantage of Cardassian turmoil to steal away Dawiar, possibly even Bajor. Lots of discussion on this right after the last intel report update. Also, last chance on Kadeshi.
I'm in favor of: Kadeshi, Dawiar, 2 of (Bajorans, Gretarians, Yrillians)
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Yeah, but the Federation just seems to getting these potential catastrophes nearly annually. I suppose it's what we get for our penchant to keep poking SCIENCE.
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I personally would like continue to push the minor races towards affiliate status since that way we can at least be reasonably sure that a bad roll won't turn them into enemies (The Sotaw for example could be a source of trouble considering their location and low relationship with us).
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Damnit Sael, what the hell went wrong?
Well, at least McAddams found another cool thing for you to poke at when you get home.
Well, at least McAddams found another cool thing for you to poke at when you get home.
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Unless you'd rather end up fighting the Dawiar and the Yrillians, we really ought to try to engage with them. Sooner or later the Cardassians will lock them in, otherwise. The Gretarians wouldn't be a problem except that we probably need to engage with them in order to resolve this whole Sydraxian thing in a positive way, a quick way, or both.
If you wanted to drop the fourth push I wouldn't blame you. The options are the Kadeshi (who may be disappearing any minute now to go find a new homeworld in the Gamma Quadrant or something), or the Bajorans (and getting closer to them just might prod the Cardassians into being more aggressive towards us, at a time when we are up to our ass in Syndicate alligators).
UbeOne
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Yes. Diplomacy is our greatest weapon.
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Do we even know anything about them besides "also Homeworld?"
Not really other than that they are located in the Rom borderzone.
lbmaian
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One reason I'm not hard-locking a diplo push on Yrillians is that it might not be a good idea to get involved in a Yrillian civil war. Gretarians, I'm worried about, but diplomacy through them to Sydraxia is a long shot, given that we didn't have luck via Apiata. There's also the option of a Sydraxian border zone which should encompass Gretaria, and should theoretically provide some protection, but there are also reasons such a border zone isn't a great idea. And Bajor, you already mentioned the risk.
So all three are options that I'm having trouble weighing against each other, but I do want at least 2 out of these 3 to be diplo pushed.
Unfortunately, not something we can do about without potentially inflaming Romulan tensions, especially in this delicate period of time right before a Romulan-Klingon war that both nations are eager to have the Federation not interfere with.
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Come to think of it...
@OneirosTheWriter do YOU know anything about the Sotaw aside from "also Homeworld?" If not, I know what my next omake will be.
@OneirosTheWriter do YOU know anything about the Sotaw aside from "also Homeworld?" If not, I know what my next omake will be.
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In my personal headcanon, they are abusing the hell out of their position to act as the major trading conduit between the Romulan Empire and Federation. Romulan merchants and members of the Tal Shiar sell them Dilithium and Romulan Ale, and the Federation sells back things like high-end consumer electronics or chocolate, or specialty Vulcan foods that Romulans haven't tasted in millennia-which might be causing a bit of a poacher boom on Vulcan.
UbeOne
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It's the first step towards Reunification!
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The Sotaw are also a source of trouble considering the Romulans won't want us cultivating a client species in the Neutral Zone. The Starfleet Diplomatic Corps need to talk to the Romulans about their status, and frankly that should have already happened some time in the six or seven years since they were first contacted.
Having the Yrillian central government brutally crush all opposition and emerge as Cardassia's Mini-Me wouldn't be a good idea either. But, if we go by that briefing, that's what is likely to happen if we don't interfere.
Give the Cardassians ten years to work on that area, and we may well see a Cardassian-backed Sydraxian-Yrillian bloc with enough combined strength to equal a large fraction of the Federation battlefleet, with the Gretarians working industriously to supply raw materials to their war effort even if they don't actually fight themselves.
The main thing is that fresh contact with the Gretarians will give us fresh information, and a potential channel we can follow up to push the Sydraxians to at least interact with us in some way other than "silently raid you."
At the moment we have had literally no intense diplomatic contact with any of the three species in that region for the past several years, and it's really no wonder the Cardassians are influencing two out of those three species (with one of them indirectly pushing the third) in an attempt to build up a threat to our flank.
(EDIT: As in, if we'd left the Indorions and Apiata this alone, the Cardassians would surely be convincing Indorions to build stuff for them by now, and we might be seeing swarms of angry hornet-ships instead of Sydraxians by now).
I wouldn't be surprised if the flow also runs the other way. The Vulcans abolished fun many centuries ago; I suspect that Romulans are now better at cooking for the Vulcanoid palate than Vulcans are.
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pheonix89
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I say we go Yrillians, Gretarians, Dawiar + whichever homeworld reference isn't sticking around in the border zone on pushes. Pushing on Bajor risks restarting the Cardassian Frontier Conflict while we're still dealing with the Syndicate, and we really don't need to be having to renegotiate the RNZ treaty.
It's more that I have no enthusiasm for it in general. It feels like an obligation, an unpleasant obligation, constantly draining away our political will because... what? We have an obligation to steal other species? Gah, it disgusts me. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm sick of it, sick of having 40pp forcefully earmarked for it every year. Screw the Kadeshi, the Bajorans, the Yrillians. Bleh. (spits on ground)
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Regardless of the broader astropolitical situation with Cardassia...
I want to improve relations with the Yrillians so that we can cut down on piracy, the Gretarans because they may need our help, and the Dawiar because they are awesome.
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Well... actually we probably do. Because with the Rigellians coming in and the Gaeni likely to follow, our border is expanding to coreward fairly quickly. I don't know if the Romulans will be, but we do need some kind of negotiated assurance to the Romulans extending the Neutral Zone in a generally coreward direction. They will NOT be happy with the idea of us pushing trailward out of Gaeni space and wrapping around their flank. We may even have to cede Gaeni settlements in that direction to draw a line the Romulans are satisfied with.
I also favor negotiating with the Klingons making it clear that we recognize their right to move in a generally spinward direction towards Lecarre space. Partly because of the same issue we have with Romulus (not wanting them to feel hemmed in by our expansion), and partly because I would LOVE IT if some day the Cardassians have angry Klingons to worry about, instead of just us.
I sympathize, but I don't understand.
The problem we face is that the Federation's entire ideological and political structure is based on not being hemmed in. On there being a frontier to explore and grow into, on there being new friends to meet and share with.
The more we find ourselves surrounded by fortress sectors full of hostile aliens "bought off" by people like the Cardassians, the harder it will be for us to continue on as a low-militarization, exploratory-focus nation.
Nervos Belli
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If you're unhappy playing a quest about diplomatic expansion and outreach, why are you playing a Star Trek quest? Diplomancing new species is what the Federation does.
If it's mandatory every year because that's what the quest is about, then why isn't 40pp just "locked in". Why do we have a choice? Is it perhaps because maybe it's just one of a number of options, and we can just have our regular Events provide outreach?
(sigh) I know there's no hope; the rest of the thread is going to vote for 4-push diplomacy plan and I'll have to as well, unless I want to have a one-vote plan. Just voicing my frustration.
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Something to note about the Kadeshi.
They are a resourceful, but few in number, people about to set off on a great journey to find a new home after losing their planet. This story is going to hit REALLY close to home for the Romulans, especially since it was mostly the Tal'Shiar's fuckup that caused this situation. I wouldn't normally expect the Romulan Star Empire to help a weaker species out of the goodness of its heart, but this may just be the one exception.
They are a resourceful, but few in number, people about to set off on a great journey to find a new home after losing their planet. This story is going to hit REALLY close to home for the Romulans, especially since it was mostly the Tal'Shiar's fuckup that caused this situation. I wouldn't normally expect the Romulan Star Empire to help a weaker species out of the goodness of its heart, but this may just be the one exception.