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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

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Nix said:
Lots of new stuff to put on the map. I guess I should put down any federation colony that does not get a Councilor as a minor colony, even if its strategically important?
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That's right. I haven't ironed out exactly what I want my qualifying factors for getting a Councillor to be, but being a "major" populated colony is part of it. No equal single representation between the world with six billion and the world with 10,000.......
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
That's right. I haven't ironed out exactly what I want my qualifying factors for getting a Councillor to be, but being a "major" populated colony is part of it. No equal single representation between the world with six billion and the world with 10,000.......
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Something that might make sense in order to avoid 'tons of people in minor colonies without Council representation' as a problem would be to have minor colonies be able to vote for the Councillor of the nearest major colony to themselves?
 
Under the Member World Fleets section the list for the Betazoid Defence Force is actually the Starfleet Cardassian Border Zone Fleet.
 
aeqnai said:
I was wondering why Challorn was there >_>
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Yeah, what through me was seeing they had an Excelsior and thinking "How did they get the design and build one before Earth did?" Then I started thinking about sneaky telepath shenanigans.

Betazoid: "Hello Starfleet. Quick, don't think of awesome ship designs! Oh, you just did. Don't worry though, we weren't paying any attention to that."
Starfleet: "Seems legit. Welcome to the Federation!"
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
Seyek
-Rethelia (-5f) - Starbase, Shipyard, Critical Political Assets, Critical Industrial Assets, Critical Resource Assets, Critical Research Assets
-Fiiral (-5e) - Outpost, Key Political Assets, Resource Assets, Research Assets, Key Industrial Assets
-Celepisos (-6d) - Outpost
-Saritcos (-6f) - Resource, Research Assets
-Hacitorus (-5f) - Shipyard, Resource Assets, Key Industrial Assets, Political Assets
-Hassonus (-5e) - Outpost, Shipyard, Research Assets, Key Industrial Assets
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Looks like the Seyek are a second tier power, but a lot less compact than the others.
Is this approximately right for their claimed territory?

 
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Nix said:
Looks like the Seyek are a second tier power, but a lot less compact than the others.
Is this approximately right for their claimed territory?

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Isn't Hassonus supposed to be in the same grid as Fiiral?
EDIT: And Hacitorus in the same grid as the Sarek currently is in?
 
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Oh that's a hell of an info dump.

OneirosTheWriter said:
Starfleet Sector Infrastructure
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OneirosTheWriter said:
Starfleet/Federation Supply Lines
Amarkia <-> Tellar Prime
Tellar Prime <-> Sol
Sol <-> Vulcan
Vulcan <-> Andor
Andor <-> Tellar Prime

Andor <-> Ranford <-> Tipperary -> KBZ
Andor <-> Machado <-> Beta Indi -> RBZ
Amarkia <-> Leas Akaam <-> Vintus -> CBZ
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This is new. And a bit concerning that they're being listed - QM wouldn't have put the effort if there wasn't a reason.

OneirosTheWriter said:
-Indoria @ Indoria
--1 Ship-of-the-Line, 2 Frigate, 2 Heavy Escorts, 4 Patrol Escorts
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Are you using anon_user's Indorian ship designs? They're gonna overpowered for 2260s tech. But since they're effectively a vanguard against the Cardassians, maybe I shouldn't complain...

OneirosTheWriter said:
-USS S'harien (-5c)
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Group B
'Frontier Group'
3 Jaldun (Trager, Karnack, Ronagot)
1 Science Escort (Parok)
Apprx -5c
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Uh, this is concerning. USS S'harien better be playing it really safe or hightailing it out of there.

JesseJ said:
Under the Member World Fleets section the list for the Betazoid Defence Force is actually the Starfleet Cardassian Border Zone Fleet.
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I was wondering what what the heck the Betazoids were defending against with such a fleet. ...the Gaeni?

Simon_Jester said:
Some of the member worlds will want to deploy their fleets to defend against the Sydraxian threat. Others will want to 'turtle' and concentrate their defenses around their homeworld in case the Kadak-Tor comes knocking. Both of those are logical reactions to the situation.
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Are we actually informing the member worlds of the cloaked threat? There was a lot of discussion before the high alert vote that we may want to play our cards close, and that one reason we couldn't simply do that "yellow alert" write-in was that affiliates already detected the apparently incoming Cardassian fleets and went to high alert. But that doesn't indicate anything about knowledge of the Kadak-Tor.

I suppose we can still keep our knowledge of the Kadak-Tor a secret yet still vaguely inform member fleets that Cardassians may have surprisingly effective deep strike capabilities.
 
Nix said:
Fixed, and placed affiliate fleets.
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You're still misspelling Yrillia :eyebrow:

Did you mean to crop the map, or is that just for demoing?

The Seyek territory looks consistent with given locations now. I'm not sure whether you should stretch out a bit of territory to include Celepisos or leave it in unclaimed space. It's pretty reasonable to have Qloath territory simply sit above (and thus overlap) the tailwards edge of Seyek territory.
 
@Nix, you're also missing a member fleets at Vulcan and Betazed, and misspelled "Selindra"

OneirosTheWriter said:
Any particular info requests for the next chunk?
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Not at the moment. I'm kinda waiting for an updated map with all that info.

I'm also working on a detailed audit of EOY 2309 with a spreadsheet (will share later). Right now, scratching my head at what new income is delayed to next year or was simply forgotten in the EOY tallies...
 
lbmaian said:
@Nix, you're also missing a member fleets at Vulcan and Betazed, and misspelled "Selindra"
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That's because the spelling changed, the first mention was spelled as Selindira, though it's consistently been spelled Selindra this week, so I changed it. Also added supply lines, not sure if this is the best way to show them though.
 
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One question, we have expanded the outposts in a couple places through the snakepit in Tellar and Amarkia but it does not look like they have more outposts than other sectors, are those outposts just not in the systems with other assets?

Edit: Also there were four outposts constructed for the CBZ but I only see one listed
 
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Weren't the Andorian and United Earth member fleets previously involved in anti-Syndicate operations?
(Speaking of, where's the Yukikaze?)
 
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Nix said:
lso added supply lines, not sure if this is the best way to show them though.
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I like how they're represented, especially the difference between major and minor supply lines. But it looks a bit too prominent - can you try making them gray?

Also, if Onerios is planning to provide updated supply line info whenever our territory expands (and not just for this about-to-be-crisis), consider adding it to the legend.

Just for fun, speculating the possible new supply lines in the coming years:
Sol <=> Betazed (minor)
Andor <=> Landle <=> Ferasa (major)
Amarkia <=> Selindra <=> (Alukk?) <=> Ferasa (major?)
Tellar Prime <=> Ord Grind Duk <=> (Alukk?) <=> Ferasa (major?)
Sol <=> Joburg <=> Rigel (major)
Amarkia <=> Leas Akaam <=> Vintus <=> Indoria (minor)
Amarkia <=> Apinae (major)
 
lbmaian said:
I like how they're represented, especially the difference between major and minor supply lines. But it looks a bit too prominent - can you try making them gray?
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aeqnai said:
If I were to suggest, you could make the lines thicker, and instead of intersecting within the planet's symbol, have them stop or fade out right before?
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Do you mean to make the lines thicker, the space between the lines wider, or both? I suppose I could do that and also make them grey, but the ends seem a bit at odds with each other so I'll wait for a bit more discussion.

I suppose I could clip the lines with circles around the planets, how far away did you have in mind?
 
It's at times like these that you really see the logic behind the Neutral Zone.

Though, we aren't panicking too much, are we? What stopped the Romulans/Klingons from glassing planets and critical infrastructure with Stealth Ships in their conflicts with the Federation?

My guess is the fear of retaliation - If the Cardassians tried something like that, the response from Starfleet.. would not be pretty.
 
Shard said:
It's at times like these that you really see the logic behind the Neutral Zone.

Though, we aren't panicking too much, are we? What stopped the Romulans/Klingons from glassing planets and critical infrastructure with Stealth Ships in their conflicts with the Federation?

My guess is the fear of retaliation - If the Cardassians tried something like that, the response from Starfleet.. would not be pretty.
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Well, glassing your future property isn't smart, assuming the Romulans and Klingons fought to conquer new territory.
 
Nix said:
Do you mean to make the lines thicker, the space between the lines wider, or both? I suppose I could do that and also make them grey, but the ends seem a bit at odds with each other so I'll wait for a bit more discussion.

I suppose I could clip the lines with circles around the planets, how far away did you have in mind?
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Extraordinarily shitty sleep-deprived photoshop edit to illustrate what I had in mind:

 
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