[X][BUILD] Base Plan Mixture
-[X] Excelsior-class @ San Francisco Fleet Yards
-[X] Constitution-B @ 40 Eridani A Berth 1
-[X] Constitution-B @ 40 Eridani A Berth 2
-[X] Refit Centaur @ Ana Font in Q2
-[X] Oberth @ Utopia Planitia Berth 2 in Q2

Does not need any resource requests and leaves enough sr for most repairs.
 
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As it's kind of likely we'll be starting a replacement project for the Oberth in next 4-5 years in game could you shed some light on how crewing will work for escort sized long range explorer types in the vein of the Oberth and Intrepid?
 
[X][NAME] USS Victory
[X][BUILD] 1 Excelsior, Utopia Planitia
[X][BUILD] 1 Excelsior, Ana Font
[X][BUILD] 2 Constitution-B, 40 Eridani A
[X][ASSIGN] 1 Excelsior and 2 Centaur-As, Cardassian Border Zone
[X][ASSIGN] 1 Excelsior, Romulan Neutral Zone
[X][ASSIGN] 2 Centaur-As, Klingon Border Zone
 
Okay looking at currenthe deployments I would recommend one excelsior at andor and one at amarkia. those are where we get syndicate events. tellar and Vulcan both get a Centaur A as they are low on ships and this improves our event rolls.not sure where the last two should go

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Okay one of the remaining Centaur a should go to KBZ where it will be the best ship we have there and the last to replace the Centaur in the CBZ so we can refit it
 
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What's our defense now? I feel like with the 4 Centaur-As last year and the two Excelsiors, we have a bit of breathing room.

can we refit all our non refit Centaur's now?

[X][BUILD] Base Plan Mixture
 
[X][BUILD] Base Plan Forge Ahead
[X][ASSIGN] Base Plan Core Focus
 
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Okay looking at currenthe deployments I would recommend one excelsior at andor and one at amarkia. those are where we get syndicate events. tellar and Vulcan both get a Centaur A as they are low on ships and this improves our event rolls.not sure where the last two should go
Which one was the one with the Amarkian name? That one should go to the Amarkian sector.
 
Sort of off topic, but the TNG era Warp scale sucks ass. It's like an exponential scale thatthat hanged the exponent in the middle. A slightly better equation would be the arctangent, I guess, but while mathematically cleaner, it's still confusing and unintuitive.

OOC, sure I get that Gene Roddenberry wanted Warp 10 to be the absolute max and they needed the Ent D to sound significantly faster than Ent A. But IC, theres absolutely no reason the Scientists and Engineers of Starfleet would have adopted it.

By one of the techbooks, the new warp scale was driven by the power to speed warp curve not being a continuous increasing function, but rather being a curve with periodic spikes. The new scale warp numbers were not based on mathematical patterns, but on enumerations of those local minima. That is, speeds you usually would want to travel from an engineering perspective.
 
From: Captain T'Pana, Superintendent, 40 Eridani A Shipyards Berth B
To: Admiral Vitalia Yukiko Kahurangi, Starfleet Command; Commodore Sirvk, Director, 40 Eridani A Shipyards; Vice Admiral Valentina Sousa, Shipyard Operations Command
Subject: Certificate of Completion

To Whom It May Concern,

As per Starfleet Regulations IV-12 (a), as Superintendent of this Shipyard Berth, I herein certify that the project under my command, the USS Avandar (Excelsior-class explorer, Fleet Order NCC-2010) is complete, assessed, and ready to be added to the Fleet Register.

Sincerely,
Captain Robert Henderson

Error located, it shouldn't be Captain Henderson twice.
 
The new ship should have a Caitian name because they are joining right now.

I was thinking Niven? Due to the author who wrote for Trek and wrote Cat-peeps
 
Okay, commentary on things that have been said so far:

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@Iron Wolf
Oh wow, the booze has ethenol in it? That's gonna mess you up. Ethanol is the regular stuff; ethenol (otherwise known as vinyl alcohol) will fuck you up. Also, it has to be created through rather bizarre and exotic processes.

And... Good job with Eddie. He's an old redshirt. He knows all the subtle little ways to fight back. Because there are old redshirts, and their are naive redshirts. But there are no old, naive redshirts.

The new ship should have a Caitian name because they are joining right now.

I was thinking Niven? Due to the author who wrote for Trek and wrote Cat-peeps
Ugh, Niven is a jerk. In that one episode he basically took an SF short story he wrote for something totally different (admittedly a good one) and rewrote it for Star Trek. Let's pick something else.

Pssh, uncontrolled antimatter reactions are just how we split the saucer from the rest of the ship. It's perfectly safe.
I don't mind you splitting the saucer from the rest of the ship that way. I do mind the part where you're splitting the left side of the saucer from the right side of the saucer with the same reaction...

Also, a trip from Earth to Venus shouldn't take 2 hours at warp one, which is 1c. Even if they're on opposite sides of the Sun, it should only take about half an hour (<15 min direct flight, but I'm giving some leeway for detour around Sun and any acceleration/deceleration).
Stop thinking efficiently and start thinking bureaucratically and red-tape-y. :o
The most likely thing lengthening the flight would be space traffic control restrictions on when you can go to warp and how close to an inhabited planet you can do so. You don't want a ship at warp passing close enough to a random civilian shuttle or navigational buoy to endanger it. So a certain amount of time must be spent at each end of the trip on impulse (or worse yet, thrusters) to get clear of the zone where warp travel is prohibited except to emergency response vessels or whatever.

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I have this head-canon that Vulcans are secretly jealous that the Federation's official exploratory/military arm adopted "primitive" and "reckless" United Earth's design and engineering methodologies.
I disagree with you. I don't think it's secret.

I'm still rooting for T'Rinta. We owe her after she got us a free Weapons Tech team, and I reiterate her bonus isn't bad. I'm not sure we want to replace Maryam with another former Explorer 1st Officer. Let's get in a fresh face and a fresh perspective.[/SPOILER]
I'm rooting for McAdams to nurse poor Courageous back to health and take her out again, because that was her ship.

Then M'beki for Miracht (because it'd be nice for Miracht to pass more diplomacy checks, and I want to fast-track Thuir for promotion).

And T'Rinta, yes, but for Surak, because putting Vulcans in charge of that ship is traditional, and I want to see if we can turn T'Rinta into a were-T'Lorel, only with torpedoes instead of phasers.



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Each sector and border zone gets an Excelsior, either a Rennaissance or a ConniBee, and a couple of centaur/miranda/constellation-A's to fill out the defense recs. Border Zones get more, of course. Keplers or whatever we end up calling them are sent wherever we need to do research, and Ambassadors are (for now) the exclusive province of the explorer corps.
I should note that I question whether the "rapid response" and "anchor" roles are actually different, in that a ship which is good at one role is good at the other, and ships responsible for the same roles must be assigned to the same place at the same time. But that is a largely irrelevant detail.

...Okay, how often does the Captain of a ship say 'Well, we're in a big hurry. Warp 9 sounds good.'

I can EASILY see why the engineers would have adopted that scale.
Not when they're working with other people who are NOT scientific and technical illiterates, they don't. And Starfleet captains aren't fools either, and they do know basic math and science. And even when we are talking about technical experts dealing with random outsiders, the numbers the experts themselves use to measure things need to make sense and be accurate, or things just fall apart. You get stuff like the Mars Climate Orbiter mishap when people use numbers that do not clearly, accurately communicate a concept.

Why not something similar to the Lorenz factor, based on some new warp physics they discovered during the transwarp experiment, which their previous equations were only an approximation for, similar to Newtonian mechanics are for Relativity?
Thing is, the Lorenz factor always means the same thing. A Lorenz factor of two means certain things, physically significant things we care about like momentum, are multiplied by two. But Lorenz factors of a thousand also mean those same things are multiplied by a thousand.

Lorenz factors are always calculated the same way, and always mean the same things. Lorenz factors are consistent. TNG-style warp factors aren't.

They're a straightforward measure of how fast you are going (or rather, the 3/10th power of how fast you are going). Until suddenly they're NOT, and they start following a bizarre, patternless 'pattern' that is allegedly exponential or asymptotic but in fact represents some random bozo hand-sketching a curve on a graph at behest of another bozo.
 
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[X][ASSIGN] Base Plan Covering all Bases
-[X] USS Salnas [Excelsior]-> Amarkia
-[X] USS Avandar [Excelsior] -> Andor
-[X] USS Winterwind [Centaur-A] -> CBZ
-[X] USS Lightning [Centaur-A] -> Vulcan
-[X] USS Calypso [Miranda, Vulcan] -> Tellar
-[X] USS Gale [Centaur-A] -> Tellar
-[X] USS Bull [Centaur-A] -> Sol
-[X] USS Faithful [Miranda, RBZ] -> Sol

Might switch centaurs after looking at the Captains. Google says Avandar is Betazoid so Salnas must be Amarkian.
 
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