Seconded. It may take us a little practice and there might be some optimization, but I REALLY like being able to just straight-up vote on what categories of information we get, rather than having it decided for us. Sure, the quality of that information can depend on rolls, but if the admiral wants a report on Cardassian battlecruisers, she should by golly get a report on Cardassian battlecruisers, not the reply "so sorry, but we thought it was more important to tell you about something else."

If there's a genuine emergency that Starfleet Intelligence wants to tell us about, great, but otherwise having us vote on what categories of reports we receive is good.
 
[X] Romulan Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report
[X] Yrillian Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Sydraxian Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Caitian-Dawiar War Progress Report (Will include supplementary updates)
[X] Klingon Diplomatic Posture Report

EDIT: @Simon_Jester makes a good point.
 
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[X] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report
[X] Shipyard Activity Report for: Cardassians
[X] Romulan Diplomatic Posture Report

The above Cardassian information should give us a much better idea of how our a chance of winning a war will change over time. In particular, learning how many berths they have will confirm if the difference in fleet strength is increasing or decreasing over time, which is something I at least really want to know. I'd also like a better idea of what can be done to maintain our current detente with the Romulans.

[X] Sydraxian Fleet Strength Report
[X] Caitian-Dawiar War Progress Report (Will include supplementary updates)
[x] Dawair Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Yrillian Diplomatic Posture Report

These are the four options I've seen others mention I'm most interested in, if not the most important.

@OneirosTheWriter I had a big question about the Ambassador class in the design thread I'd like an answer to, if you still have time.
 
@Muer'ci

Hm. I'd been told things that contradicted that in the past, but if you say so, then fine.
Here's the current tally by line. Looks fine to me.
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[X] Romulan Diplomatic Posture Report
No. of Votes: 12

[X] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report
No. of Votes: 12

[X] Caitian-Dawiar War Progress Report (Will include supplementary updates)
No. of Votes: 12

[X] USS Polaris Incident Report
No. of Votes: 11

[X] Shipyard Activity Report for: Cardassians
No. of Votes: 11

[X] Klingon Diplomatic Posture Report
No. of Votes: 10

[X] Cardassian Diplomatic Posture Report
No. of Votes: 5

[X] Yrillian Diplomatic Posture Report
No. of Votes: 5

[X] Sydraxian Fleet Strength Report
No. of Votes: 2

[X] Sydraxian Diplomatic Posture Report
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Ship Analysis Report: Cardassian Heavy Battlecruiser
No. of Votes: 1

[x] Dawair Diplomatic Posture Report
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 12
 
[X] Romulan Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Klingon Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Diplomatic Posture Report

[X] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report

[X] USS Polaris Incident Report
[X] Caitian-Dawiar War Progress Report (Will include supplementary updates)

[X] Shipyard Activity Report for: Cardassians
 
Okay. Personally I agree that we need to prioritize the Romulan diplomatic posture, the Cardassians' fleet strength, and the ongoing war with the Dawiar...

[X] Romulan Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report
[X] USS Polaris Incident Report
[X] Caitian-Dawiar War Progress Report (Will include supplementary updates)

...But there's a catch. I think we should focus less on the Cardassian shipyards (since we don't even know where most of their colony worlds are), and more on diplomatic posture. The biggest reason we have a problem with Cardassia right now isn't that they are building ships, or that they're building better ships than we will be over the next five to ten years.

The reason we have a problem with Cardassia is their "diplomacy," which includes covert operations designed to sour our relations with the neutral polities on our border, and to use those neutrals as proxies to attack our friends and ourselves.

After all, we just trimmed their fleet back by an explorer and two cruisers over the past year, as I recall, and there may have been other ships severely damaged by our actions. Unless they're so much larger than we are industrially that the situation is inherently hopeless, their fleet isn't growing rapidly in the face of that.

What we urgently need to know is:
1) Roughly how many ships do the Cardassians have NOW, in particular the ones near their frontier, and
2) What are they up to on our border?

Finding out how many shipyards they have is important, but is ultimately a third priority. I recommend saving it for next turn, when we already have at least a rough idea of how much total strength the Cardassians have. Therefore my next vote is

[X] Cardassian Diplomatic Posture Report

That leaves two options. We're short on information regarding the Klingons, so that's probably important to keep ourselves updated on..

[X] Klingon Diplomatic Posture Report

...And it bothers me that we don't know what the Sydraxians have been up to. They're powerful enough to make trouble, and they obviously dislike us. What are they doing in order to make that displeasure known?

[X] Sydraxian Diplomatic Posture Report

You'll notice that I strongly favor diplomatic posture information. That's because it's the one thing we really, really cannot get any other way.

We can get a feel for how many ships the Cardassians have just by having plenty of our own ships sailing around and gauging the frequency with which we bump into them. We know about as much as we urgently need to know about Cardassian ships (their cruisers are adequate, but not superior to the ones we have in the pipeline; their battlecruisers are hella well-armed, but have a glass jaw).

But we aren't getting any meaningful feedback on what the Cardassians are actually doing among the half dozen or so neutral species on our border, except when one of their schemes happens to result in us getting torpedoes. Or when one Nash happens to trip over one of their plots and foils it with her godlike Leaniss-boosted I'M CAPTAIN OF THE ENTERPRISE-boosted Presence stat.

What do the Cardassians do in between the two extremes there? Do they have embassies with all these minor nations? Do they have tailors sneaking around all over trying to establish a Cardassian reputation for superior fashion sense? Who knows? I for one would like to find out.
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EDIT:

Just to be clear, I am specifically arguing that we should NOT seek a report on Cardassian shipyard activity. We don't know enough about the astrography of their empire to be sure we've located all or even most of their major shipbuilding nodes yet, and we can't gather much information on shipyards we can't find. Moreover, shipyards are not time critical information. Nothing we learn about them this year will cause us to do anything much different than what we are already doing: maximize production of explorers and modern cruisers, with escorts around the edges.
 
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@OneirosTheWriter
As a matter of clarification, are the diplomatic posture reports touching on a given power's various relations, or just their interactions with the Federation? I'm assuming it's the former, but you know what happens when you assume...

[X] Romulan Diplomatic Posture Report

[X] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report

[X] Cardassian Diplomatic Posture Report

[X] USS Polaris Incident Report

[X] Caitian-Dawiar War Progress Report (Will include supplementary updates)

[X] Question: What do you need to more consistently stop these Cardassian operations against the Federation and its affiliates?

[X] Sydraxian Diplomatic Posture Report

Do they have tailors sneaking around all over trying to establish a Cardassian reputation for superior fashion sense?
Frankly, they need all the help they can get, especially when measured against our current nifty red uniforms.
 
[X] Romulan Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report
[X] Yrillian Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Sydraxian Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Caitian-Dawiar War Progress Report (Will include supplementary updates)
[X] Klingon Diplomatic Posture Report

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@OneirosTheWriter
As a matter of clarification, are the diplomatic posture reports touching on a given power's various relations, or just their interactions with the Federation? I'm assuming it's the former, but you know what happens when you assume.

Past reports have concerned relations between the Romulans/Klingons with us and "guesses" about their relationship with each other. So it seems likely that you'll get something about their relationships with other major powers (if they exist) but not a lot of details about their relations with minor powers. For that, ask about a minor power specifically.

I know you were asking our QM, but judging by the time and their lack of "viewing this thread" status, they've probably gone to sleep and you won't get an answer for the next 8+ hours.

[X] Romulan Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report
[X] Cardassian Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] USS Polaris Incident Report
[X] Caitian-Dawiar War Progress Report (Will include supplementary updates)
[X] Question: What do you need to more consistently stop these Cardassian operations against the Federation and its affiliates?
[X] Sydraxian Diplomatic Posture Report

Nothing in Cardassian shipbuilding? I think that's pretty important to knowing how the balance of power will shift with us in the future. I don't expect the write-in question to have much in the way of useful results. If they knew the answer to the question, they would already by doing it or have asked for the resources to do it.
 
[X] Romulan Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report
[X] USS Polaris Incident Report
[X] Caitian-Dawiar War Progress Report (Will include supplementary updates)
[X] Sydraxian Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Klingon Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Diplomatic Posture Report
 
[X] Romulan Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Klingon Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report
[X] USS Polaris Incident Report
[X] Caitian-Dawiar War Progress Report (Will include supplementary updates)
[X] Ship Analysis Report: Jaldun
-Because I hope knowing more about their ships will help ours.
 
Simon_Jester has convinced me to change my vote.

[X] Romulan Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Fleet Strength Report
[X] USS Polaris Incident Report
[X] Caitian-Dawiar War Progress Report (Will include supplementary updates)
[X] Sydraxian Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Klingon Diplomatic Posture Report
[X] Cardassian Diplomatic Posture Report
 
[EDIT: While I disagree with people who want detailed reports on individual ships, I respect their opinions. That would actually be much more useful to us in the short term than knowing whether they have three, four, or five explorers a-building right this minute. And it's highly doubtful we even COULD know that much about them if we asked Starfleet Intelligence to tell us...]

The reason I, for one, don't want to ask about Cardassian shipbuilding is that the information is not of short-term interest. We don't need that information this year, and having it this year won't help us much compared to having it next year.

We're already building the best ships we can. And we're building them just about as fast as we can, on general principles. If that gives us superiority over the Cardassians, well and good. If it doesn't, what can we do about it? We can double down on our economy (which we're already doing anyway). Or we can launch a preemptive attack (which we can't do anyway).

Unless Cardassian industrial capacity so far exceeds us that we're doomed anyway, and is ahistorically extreme compared to us given that we know the Federation and Cardassian Union were peer competitors up through the mid-24th century... finding out what their shipyards are up to isn't going to give us any useful new information that is actually a surprise.

Furthermore, as I mentioned, we don't even know where all the Cardassian shipyards are, making it deeply problematic to get any real, detailed intelligence on what they're doing.

This is, in essence, a calculus problem. To know how the balance of power evolves, we need to know what it is now, and how it is changing as a function of time. The thing is, the timescale of significant changes in fleet strength isn't one year. It's more like three to five years- the time required to complete one round of heavy ships and two rounds of light/medium ships. Therefore, what is critically important right now is that we nail down a realistic estimate of the strength of the Cardassian fleet right now. Given that, we can wait a year or two to find out how fast that fleet is growing.

And there are a lot of other kinds of information that can help us right now, too- like the diplomatic posture of key minor species in the region and how they are interacting with their neighbors. Because that's an important piece of the overall strategic puzzle, and one we can't get information about any other way. If we knew more about that, we might be able to figure out what the next Cardassian move is that's similar to turning the Dawiar against us, and nip it in the bud.

Whereas knowing how fast their fleet is growing won't help us anywhere near as quickly.
 
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Omake - The Lucky Ones - Leila Hann
Omake: the Lucky Ones


Stardate 20989.6


Stars flew past the transparent dome, striping the space around Zeliya with strikes of white. She had loved the sight of them, ineffably huge and distant things flying by like ripples beneath a swift barge, during the journey to Andor. Now on the way back home, all she could think about was how cold they looked at this distance, how alien and unnatural their smearing across the eternal night. On the table before her sat the beginning of the report she was supposed to finish by the time they returned, but she still couldn't bring herself to type, or even dictate.

It's true. All of it is true. Everything it said in Captain ka'Sharren's data transfer, and so much more. She shuddered. So much more, and so much worse.

Behind her, the floor hatch opened and she heard Rinelis' heavy footfalls rise to the deck. She wanted to greet him with a smile, but any movement of her face threatened to break loose the tears.

"Good day, captain."

She forced her lips to curve up, but didn't turn around. "Welcome, life-scholar. What's mine is yours."

There was a slow, sodden pause as Rinelis waited for her to turn around. "Can I ease your sorrow?" he asked when she did not.

Zeliya shook her head. She knew that the thing that ailed her - and probably Rinelis as well, though his face was as brave as always - couldn't be cured by mere pleasure. "I wish you could."

"As do I, I'm sure you know."

He walked up beside the captain, joining her distorted stargazing beneath the canopy. Another difficult pause before he spoke again.

"We've finished our initial biopsychological comparison. There's much more work to be done, once we're back on Risa and have the time and manpower for more analysis, but I think we've started to make sense of the aliens."

She took in a deep breath, preparing herself for whatever he said next. Hopefully it wouldn't be any worse, but that hope had been dashed time and time again with every new bit of information she'd learned in the past few weeks. "Please continue."

"On their homeworld - on nearly all of their homeworlds, from what we can tell - the Unlucky Ones rose to sapience."

She finally turned to face him, her chestnut eyebrows going wide. "You're telling me these people-" whatever the hell was wrong with them, the aliens WERE still people "-are swamp apes?"

The scholar shook his head. "No moreso than ourselves. Our ancestors were just another subspecies of swamp ape." He paused. "Obviously, that's only a crude comparison. Their ancestral ecosystems don't map that closely with ours, but there are close enough analogues on most of their homeworlds. The humans probably have the closest one; they call them chimpanzees and bonobos."

She bit her lip, doing her best to recall her childhood natural history lessons. "So then their natural way of resolving conflicts..."

"Violence."

The passing stars smeared themselves against her eyes and brain, each seeming to call back images from the data. Green skinned women stuffed into a cargo hold. Giant, sharp-toothed men with bony foreheads cutting one another in half with a smile. Explorer ships on "peaceful" missions that carried hundreds of high yield annihilation missiles just in case. The United Federation of Planets, a diverse society of cooperating species, had only come into being when four warring races were forced to unite against a more powerful fifth in an even bloodier war. It was perhaps that last one that shook her the deepest. It was like something that the edgiest hack science fiction writer on Risa would come up with...no, it was like a PARODY of that. A group of species so violent that they were forced to make peace in order to fight better.

"How can this be, Rinelis? We feared there might be a species like that out there, but everyone besides us?"

The scholar shook his own head, his rich brown skin standing out against the black space and white streaks. "It's only a hypothesis, but...our species diverged during the worst part of the Eastern Megafaunal Extinction. We know from the fossil record that Risa has usually had more large land animals and fewer edible fruits and herbs to go around than it does in our era. It's hard to wrap your mind around, but the kind of safety and plenty our ancestors built their society on is the exception for our biosphere, not the norm. In that kind of environment, violent competition is only useful in limited situations, or in the more extreme environments. Its long been believed that that's why we were able to spread across the continents while the Unlucky Ones stayed in their bogs and never had to evolve the intelligence necessary for biome adaptability. Our sense of community, our reluctance to hurt one another, those gave us a competitive advantage."

His meaning sunk in, and Zeliya felt a chill run down her spine. "And assuming sapient life could have evolved at any time in Risa's history, and against the odds just happened to arise in the conditions that favored us..."

"Then it is statistically inevitable that the majority of sapient life forms would have arisen in more typical conditions. Even in just the last ten thousand years, we've seen it starting to change on Risa. In the pristine jungles, everything has been growing steadily more competitive, more violent, as new species start to emerge. From a paleobiological perspective, what we've been observing for our entire history is things gradually returning to normal."

Normal. Out of more than two dozen spacefaring species, there was only one whose development of technology had been motivated not by warfare, but by the guileless desire for comfort and safety, even if the latter took much longer. Only one who offered what it had, rather than taking whatever it could take. Only one who solved its problems by spilling seed rather than blood. The universe that Zeliya thought she had lived in was a lie.

"We are lucky it was the Federation, and not the Klingons. It could have just as easily been them. Maybe more easily, looking at the starmaps."

The life-scholar shook his head again. "I'm not convinced it actually makes much difference, captain. The Andorians, Humans, Tellarites, and others have been killers for tens of thousands of years, and what could very generously be called peaceful for, at best, two hundred. The Federation's professed ideals are at odds with its member races' genetic imperatives. Maybe they'll hold out for a few more decades, or even centuries, but in the long run I don't think it will have made a difference who we met."

She was about to argue that buying their people even a few decades or centuries was worth it, but reminded herself that Rinelis had been trained to see the passage of time on geologic scales, not in years and decades. Of course it wouldn't make a difference to him.

"What would you recommend to the Directors of the Hedony, then, in my place?"

The scholar stood up again and stepped around in front of her. "I'd recommend that we abandon space exploration. Return to Risa, cut back on radio transmissions. No one's invaded us yet, and I think if we avoid attracting any more attention to ourselves we can keep that going."

The thought of her star corvette, the vehicle she had spent her entire life learning to captain, being consigned to the dustbin of history nearly brought back the tears. His logic was hard to dispute, but...no, no it still didn't work.

"I think it's too late now," Zeliya said. "They know about us. Even if the ones we've spoken to forget, we're in their databanks. Someone will come back. Sooner or later. And it probably won't be the Federation."

"What, then? We try to become like them? Our own biology-"

She placed her hand on his chest, squeezing gently to silence him. She knew what he was about to say. Trying to be like the aliens would not only ruin everything they knew and loved, but it wouldn't even work. While warfare was a part of Risa's history, it was a small-scale and very infrequent affair by the apparent galactic standards, neither side having the stomach to continue it for too long. The people who had agonized so long over whether or not to put the laser cannons on Zeliya's corvette - the laser cannons that had been outright laughed at by every technician in Starfleet - would never be the equal of the Klingons or the Amarki in battle.

"No. I shall tell the Directors..."

She thought carefully, turning over the words in her mind.

"I shall tell the Directors of the Hedony that the Federation is our only hope. They are not like us, they'll never be like us, but we can accomodate them. The diplomats and officers we met all admired things about Risa. Our food, our beaches, our sexuality. Even our kindness appears to be a commodity in their eyes, at least as much as a weakness. We'll invite them to our world, and tell them that what is ours is theirs. If we're lucky, they'll leave us enough for ourselves."

He looked down at her, his deep, dark eyes asking the question he didn't need to voice. If we're lucky.

Against all odds, their people had come into being free of the suffering and cruelty that defined the rest of the galaxy. Against all odds, their first contact had been the Federation in its least bloodthirsty era thus far, rather than the Klingons or Romulans or really anyone else. How many more times could they keep getting lucky?​
 
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Poor Risans.

They're not literally the only highly nonviolent species out there in Trek, but yeah, they're close to the top of the distribution curve. I hope they like the Betazoids.
 
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