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Risans want an Amby again? Sight. We really need to talk them out of it.

A 10 flat capital? As in, completely flat? Is 10H even possible with out tech?

Those new ships are tiny. Are 1mt berths that expensive? They are loosing much in performance in exchange for their size. Compare to Centaur B.

[ ][LAIO] Support the construction of a shipyard. (-11 pp, Laio Shipyard with 1x2mt berth will be built at Laian)
Looks good. 9pp for a 2mt berth, even if not Starfleets, is a bargain. Paying 43pp for two 1mt berths would be silly I think. Also with the Space Station techs we have, 2mt or smaller repair berths are not an issue I believe.

We are not paying 40pp for a Kepler I don't think.
 
anon_user said:
as the Joint Ancillary Frigate system, which will enter prototyping next year if all proceeds on schedule.
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At long last!
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The long under development Arsharra N'Gir-class fathership will is also nearing completion,
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Do you remember when this project exposed our comms in the Gabriel? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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One peculiarity I have to mention though; the Yrillians have completed a large deal with an Orion firm to furnish suitably reworked designs for three frigates - the Emerald, Greenleaf, and Carbon.
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Ooh, nice! These have been on the back burner for a while, and it's nice to see them all come out.

Star-Kin Retire old ships Boost Basilica #s
Hm. I kind of feel like the Honiani could do with some refits? There are refits implied for the Basilicas, but the Monasterys definitely seem like they could do with an extensive upgrade, though the attempts I've done have been very expensive. Plus, they have like 12, which should be enough to do a variant-branching refit like the KP are planning (some to skirmish ships, some straight upgrades, maybe some to scouts).

[X][PRIORITY] Star-Kin: Refit Monastery as Long-Term
[X][PRIORITY] Caldonians: Refit old Science Cruisers as Long-Term
[X][PRIORITY] Orions: Move Inc Crew/Res to Medium Term
[X][PRIORITY] STO: Increase BR/SR as Medium-Term

[X][ORION] Adopt Project Emerald as a new light frigate, capable of being built in 600kt berths. (+10 pp)
[X][ORION] Adopt Kepler as a new scout frigate, building in 2.25 years, with crew cost O2 E3 T4.
[X][ORION] Adopt Project Greenleaf as a new skirmish frigate, with build time 2 years, cost 80-85 BR & 55-65 SR, and crew cost O1 E2 T2. (+10 pp)
[X][ORION] Wait to refit existing cruisers
I'm going to go with these 4 for now, on the basis of the Orions having pretty terrible income. Even so, only one of these ships is cheap enough for them to start even one per year, so I'm glad their long-term plan is to increase resources. Edit: SWB makes good sense on the cruiser issue.

[X][LAIO] Support the construction of a shipyard. (-11 pp, Laio Shipyard with 1x2mt berth will be built at Laian)
They really do need a shipyard to build larger ships, but there's no point to a complex where they can't fill any of the berths on a regular basis.
[X][FRIGATE] Adopt Project Emerald (-5 pp for facilitating technical assistance, prototype begins production in 2325Q3 at Bidva, -70 br, -55 sr OR -15 pp to arrange a resource transfer from the Honiani)
[X][FRIGATE] Put the Mielab into production (-8 pp for facilitating technical assistance, 1-2 ordered 2325Q3)
They need ships that are cheap, small, and have future potential. The Emerald is explicitly a Patroller-A replacement, and that's what they need. They could also do with a Mielab, and presumably ultimately the Mielab-A. The Miranda-B and the Briecas are going to be tapped out ships, that they'll ultimately just have to replace, and they can't really afford Centaur-B production. The Emerald will also have future upgrades, whereas the Centaur is also probably nearing the end of possible upgrades.

[X][STO] Adopt the Torqui Leb Lagan Flight II (C7 S7 H4 L6 P7 D7, 200 br 140 sr 6O 6E 5T, 35 br & 35 sr refit cost) and refit in 2329

How do the Caitians feel about the Carbon? Because they're still going to need shipyard upgrades to build the Oda-Gach, and we're less likely to steal it than we are the Kepler. Plus, it would entail collaborating with people who are already their neighbors.

[X][CAT] Adopt Project Carbon (Requires shipyard upgrades to produce at home, -10 pp to rent an Orion berth for the initial build)

Alright, since it's now an option, I'm voting for it.

[X][BETZA] Rename the class the Bird of Paradise, as an analog to the Klingon Bird-of-Prey but for much more peaceful ends.

Sure, why not?
 
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[X][BETZA] Rename the class the Bird of Paradise, as an analog to the Klingon Bird-of-Prey but for much more peaceful ends.
 
I'll caution everyone that with the Orion's tiny income refitting existing cruisers is many times more efficient than building new ones. Even Envoys. What we'd probably get with new cruisers is swapping 3 existing for 1 new, not a good trade for the Orions at all.
 
@anon_user I forget, at the conclusion of the Laio&Licori/OSA war, did we vote to reserve Laio berth-space elsewhere for the reconstruction of their lost Explorer, or did we vote to build them a new Berth?
 
[X][ORION] Adopt Project Emerald as a new light frigate, capable of being built in 600kt berths. (+10 pp)
[X][ORION] Adopt the Envoy as a new diplomatic cruiser

[X ][LAIO] Support the construction of a shipyard complex. (-54 pp, Laio Shipyard with 1x2mt berth, 2x1mt berths will be built at Laian)

[X][FRIGATE] Transfer mothballed Amarki frigates to the Laians (-2 pp for facilitating minor technical assistance; Laio acquires 2 Brieca-As and scraps three frigates, in 2325Q1, reduce the br & sr cost of any other [FRIGATE] option taken by 90 br & 55 sr (or additional pp cost by 15 pp))
[X][FRIGATE] Put the Mielab into production (-8 pp for facilitating technical assistance, 1-2 ordered 2325Q3, -40-80 br, -40-85 sr or additional -8-18 pp to arrange a resource transfer from the Honiani)
[X][FRIGATE] Adopt Project Emerald (-5 pp for facilitating technical assistance, prototype begins production in 2325Q3 at Bidva, -70 br, -55 sr OR additional -15 pp to arrange a resource transfer from the Honiani)

[X][STO] Adopt the Torqui Leb Lagan Flight II (C7 S7 H4 L6 P7 D7, 200 br 140 sr 6O 6E 5T, 35 br & 35 sr refit cost) and refit in 2329

[X][CAT] Adopt the Mielab in its current form.
[X][BETZA] Rename the class the Artful-class, after the first unit


I am happy with investing a lot of resources in Laio, I like Amarkian designs for our ally\member fleets, I think Torgui leb refit is acceptable and I think Orions need high P ships + escorts.
 
[X][ORION] Adopt Project Emerald as a new light frigate, capable of being built in 600kt berths. (+10 pp)
[X][ORION] Adopt Project Carbon (2324 variant) as a new scout frigate, building in 2 years, with crew cost O2 E3 T3. (+10 pp)
[X][ORION] Adopt Project Greenleaf as a new skirmish frigate, with build time 2 years, cost 80-85 BR & 55-65 SR, and crew cost O1 E2 T2. (+10 pp)
[X][ORION] Wait to refit existing cruisers

[X][LAIO] Support the construction of a shipyard. (-11 pp, Laio Shipyard with 1x2mt berth will be built at Laian)

[X][FRIGATE] Adopt Project Emerald (-5 pp for facilitating technical assistance, prototype begins production in 2325Q3 at Bidva, -70 br, -55 sr
[X][FRIGATE] Put the Mielab into production (-8 pp for facilitating technical assistance, 1-2 ordered 2325Q3, -40-80 br, -40-85 sr or additional -8-18 pp to arrange a resource transfer from the Honiani)
[X][FRIGATE] Transfer mothballed Amarki frigates to the Laians (-2 pp for facilitating minor technical assistance; Laio acquires 2 Brieca-As and scraps three frigates, in 2325Q1, reduce the br & sr cost of any other [FRIGATE] option taken by 90 br & 55 sr

[X][STO] Adopt the Torqui Leb Lagan Flight II (C7 S7 H4 L6 P7 D7, 200 br 140 sr 6O 6E 5T, 35 br & 35 sr refit cost) and refit in 2329

[X][CAT] Adopt Project Carbon (Requires shipyard upgrades to produce at home, -10 pp to rent an Orion berth for the initial build)

[X][BETZA] Rename the class the Bird of Paradise, as an analog to the Klingon Bird-of-Prey but for much more peaceful ends.
 
A (Sydraxians 2324 spec) Carbon Science frigate with Straak-Pattern Survey Sensors might do the Laio quite nicely.

They could certainly use a ship to find them exciting new SR rocks.
 
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Finagle007 said:
[X][BETZA] Rename the class the Bird of Paradise, as an analog to the Klingon Bird-of-Prey but for much more peaceful ends.
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[j/k] incude a segment of the ship that has, on the blueprints a big label saying "No Stealth field generator here" that area should correspond with the waste treatment system of the ship :p

Because if we are going to troll Klingons and Romulans? we should go all in
 
Oh, also something to look at: Why are the Amarki, noted advocates of stern defense and a semi-mobilized population, suddenly worrying about peacetime budgets, when we're on the eve of potential armed conflict in 1-2 years or less with the HoH? We know the Amarki have infiltration problems, and this seems quite OOC for that nation.
 
[X][PRIORITY] Star-Kin: Refit Monastery as Long-Term
[X][PRIORITY] Caldonians: Refit old Science Cruisers as Long-Term
[X][PRIORITY] Orions: Move Inc Crew/Res to Medium Term
[X][PRIORITY] STO: Increase BR/SR as Medium-Term

[X][ORION] Adopt Project Emerald as a new light frigate, capable of being built in 600kt berths. (+10 pp)
[X][ORION] Adopt Project Greenleaf as a new skirmish frigate, with build time 2 years, cost 80-85 BR & 55-65 SR, and crew cost O1 E2 T2. (+10 pp)
[X][ORION] Wait to refit existing cruisers

If they have adopted these designs, then they can sell these designs - and they have dreams of being a widespread naval supplier. (How realistic those dreams are …)

[X][LAIO] Support the construction of a shipyard. (-11 pp, Laio Shipyard with 1x2mt berth will be built at Laian)

Just repair yard seems limiting, and they don't have the budget to use three new berths.

[X][FRIGATE] Adopt Project Emerald (-5 pp for facilitating technical assistance, prototype begins production in 2325Q3 at Bidva, -70 br, -55 sr OR additional -15 pp to arrange a resource transfer from the Honiani)
[X][FRIGATE] Back the Miranda-B project (-2 pp cost to a Miranda-B refit, Starfleet must refit and transfer a Miranda-B to the Laians as soon as the project is complete (in a Laian berth if necessary, but at Starfleet expense))
[X][FRIGATE] Transfer mothballed Amarki frigates to the Laians (-2 pp for facilitating minor technical assistance; Laio acquires 2 Brieca-As and scraps three frigates, in 2325Q1, reduce the br & sr cost of any other [FRIGATE] option taken by 90 br & 55 sr (or additional pp cost by 15 pp))

They like Patroller-As, well let them build a successor class. Also, gives the Orions more political power. SWB argued for the Miri-B and Briecas, and I don't have a good counter argument.

[X][STO] Adopt the Torqui Leb Lagan Flight II (C7 S7 H4 L6 P7 D7, 200 br 140 sr 6O 6E 5T, 35 br & 35 sr refit cost) and refit in 2329

I originally voted for Rennie/Envoy replacement, but SWB made an argument for the refit.

[X][CAT] Adopt Project Carbon (Requires shipyard upgrades to produce at home, -10 pp to rent an Orion berth for the initial build)

Spread those new designs around.

[X][BETZA] Rename the class the Bird of Paradise, as an analog to the Klingon Bird-of-Prey but for much more peaceful ends.

It may be a bit hammy, but unless the Klingons declare war over it, I don't see a downside.
 
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Oh, also something to look at: Why are the Amarki, noted advocates of stern defense and a semi-mobilized population, suddenly worrying about peacetime budgets, when we're on the eve of potential armed conflict in 1-2 years or less with the HoH? We know the Amarki have infiltration problems, and this seems quite OOC for that nation.
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I'm pretty sure that their economy is still jacked up from the years under a mobilized economy after the Syndicate nuking of their capital.
 
[X][ORION] Adopt Project Emerald as a new light frigate, capable of being built in 600kt berths. (+10 pp)
[X][ORION] Adopt Kepler as a new scout frigate, building in 2.25 years, with crew cost O2 E3 T4.
[X][ORION] Adopt Project Greenleaf as a new skirmish frigate, with build time 2 years, cost 80-85 BR & 55-65 SR, and crew cost O1 E2 T2. (+10 pp)
[X][ORION] Support development of a Miranda-B variant (-10 pp cost to a Miranda-B refit, Starfleet must refit and transfer one Miranda-B to the Orion Union as soon as the project is complete, in an Orion berth if necessary, but at Starfleet expense).

[X][LAIO] Support the construction of a shipyard. (-11 pp, Laio Shipyard with 1x2mt berth will be built at Laian)
The Laio have 2x1Mt yards already and a income of 40BR 35SR and about 2 of each type of crew filling those 3 berths will take all resources they have more 1Mt yards i do not see them filling.
[X][FRIGATE] Adopt Project Emerald (-5 pp for facilitating technical assistance, prototype begins production in 2325Q3 at Bidva, -70 br, -55 sr OR additional -15 pp to arrange a resource transfer from the Honiani)
[X][FRIGATE] Back the Miranda-B project (-2 pp cost to a Miranda-B refit, Starfleet must refit and transfer a Miranda-B to the Laians as soon as the project is complete (in a Laian berth if necessary, but at Starfleet expense))
[X][FRIGATE] Transfer mothballed Amarki frigates to the Laians (-2 pp for facilitating minor technical assistance; Laio acquires 2 Brieca-As and scraps three frigates, in 2325Q1, reduce the br & sr cost of any other [FRIGATE] option taken by 90 br & 55 sr (or additional pp cost by 15 pp))
Their current frigates are: Laian Frigate - To Boldly Go so replacing them with 2 better ones even if they end up scrapping them is worth it for only 2PP and provides them the resources for adopting project Emerald.

[X][STO] Adopt the Torqui Leb Lagan Flight II (C7 S7 H4 L6 P7 D7, 200 br 140 sr 6O 6E 5T, 35 br & 35 sr refit cost) and refit in 2329

[X][CAT] Adopt Project Carbon (Requires shipyard upgrades to produce at home, -10 pp to rent an Orion berth for the initial build)

[X][BETZA] Rename the class the Bird of Paradise, as an analog to the Klingon Bird-of-Prey but for much more peaceful ends.

[X][PRIORITY] Star-Kin: Refit Monastery as Long-Term
[X][PRIORITY] Caldonians: Refit old Science Cruisers as Long-Term
[X][PRIORITY] Orions: Move Inc Crew/Res to Medium Term
[X][PRIORITY] STO: Increase BR/SR as Medium-Term
 
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This just in: the Risan Warp Life-Saving Club, in association with the United Federation of Planets Development Party, has begun work on a revolutionary new starbase design, the Love Star.
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Love Star eh? Well, can't design Star Bases in the engine, so I did the next best thing and build a 4kt ship with no warp drive. Close enough, eh?

C[2] S[6] H[2] L[17] P[21] D[10] | [350]br [420]sr | O[5] E[3] T[5] | [6]years

No guns, no sensors, some aluminum plating for armor, and more diplobays, rec areas, and hospital rooms than you can shake a stick at. (They also slapped a bunch of shields on there for their trippy laser light shows.)

How's that strike your fancy? :p
 
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Current Priorities
Name Short-Term Mid-Term Long-Term
Amarki New Eng Team Peacetime Budget  
Caitian JAF Project Fleet renewal  
Rigel MT/Turtle refits Oda-Gach Refit  
Apiata Increase Infra Build Queen+Little  
Indorian   Scout/Fortify  
Gaeni   Comets/Keplers  
Orion Kepler Sell Berth Space Inc Crew/Res
Caldonia New Science Cruiser Build Keplers  
STO Improve Infra   Audacious Replace
Risa Refit Corvettes Kepler/Comet Ambie
Ked Paddah Aggadah Refits Orah Refits All-10s Capital
Star-Kin Retire old ships Boost Basilica #s  
See Federation Member Yards for detailed shipbuilding plans and incomes for Federation members.

[ ][PRIORITY] Pick Up to four Member World Priorities to change
[ ][PRIORITY] Change nothing [Weighted 1.5x]
Suggested possible priorities can be things such as:
Focus on building a particular ship type/class
Focus on more cargo shipping
Focus on increasing resources/recruitment
Set a target for Combat or Defence
Start designing a new ship
Prepare a refit of a ship
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So, 4 priorities.
I think the Orions need crew/res as a priority over selling more berth space. If they're moving into a refit program that berth space will be at a premium.
An All-10s Capital will be very difficult, as we probably won't have the hull tech for that for ages. If we design one as our tech stands it will be a very unbalanced ship, ironically. I would suggest the Megatortoise fiat modification for the Ked Paddah, so consult with the Rigellians.
We have an old cruiser refit for the Caldonians ready to go for next year's MWCD, so it would be nice to slip it into Long-Term priorities.
The Star-Kin desperately need a refit program, I consider this highest priority. They also need to boost Basilica numbers but a refit program is just as important.
I wouldn't mind crew/res as a priority for many of the small fleets.
The STO has a big crew surplus and is running on the ragged edge of their BR/SR income. Badly needs more income. If we have colony sites in the area they could use them.

[][PRIORITY] Star-Kin: Refit Monastery as Long-Term
[][PRIORITY] Caldonians: Refit old Science Cruisers as Long-Term
[][PRIORITY] Orions: Move Inc Crew/Res to Medium Term
[][PRIORITY] STO: Increase BR/SR as Medium-Term


Through the MWCD, the Orion Union requests the advice of the Ship Design Bureau on replacement options for existing fleet units.

Replacement options: (Choose as many as you want, only those that cross a 50% threshold will be accepted. Note that the Orion Union has six 600kt berths, four 815kt berths, and four 1000kt berths, and annual income of 65 br, 55 sr, 2 O, 2 E, 2.25 T)
[ ][ORION] Adopt Project Emerald as a new light frigate, capable of being built in 600kt berths. (+10 pp)
[ ][ORION] Support development of a Miranda-B variant (-10 pp cost to a Miranda-B refit, Starfleet must refit and transfer one Miranda-B to the Orion Union as soon as the project is complete, in an Orion berth if necessary, but at Starfleet expense).
[ ][ORION] Adopt Project Carbon (2324 variant) as a new scout frigate, building in 2 years, with crew cost O2 E3 T3. (+10 pp)
[ ][ORION] Adopt Kepler as a new scout frigate, building in 2.25 years, with crew cost O2 E3 T4.
[ ][ORION] Adopt Project Greenleaf as a new skirmish frigate, with build time 2 years, cost 80-85 BR & 55-65 SR, and crew cost O1 E2 T2. (+10 pp)
[ ][ORION] Adopt Comet as a new skirmish frigate, with build time 2.5 years, cost 105 BR & 75 SR, and crew cost O2 E3 T3.
[ ][ORION] Adopt the Renaissance-A as a new combat cruiser
[ ][ORION] Adopt the Envoy as a new diplomatic cruiser
[ ][ORION] Wait to refit existing cruisers

The Laian government is interested in building a 2mt shipyard of their own to support the Egillah-class capital they operate, and allow for the construction of superfreighters and future capital or heavy cruiser builds. However, Laian infrastructure is not quite up to the task on their own, at least not this year, and the Laio are requesting help through the MWCD.

[ ][LAIO] Recommend the construction of a repair yard instead. (Repair yard with 1x2mt, 1x1mt berths will be built at Laian).
[ ][LAIO] Support the construction of a shipyard. (-11 pp, Laio Shipyard with 1x2mt berth will be built at Laian)
[ ][LAIO] Support the construction of a shipyard complex. (-54 pp, Laio Shipyard with 1x2mt berth, 2x1mt berths will be built at Laian)
[ ][LAIO] It can wait til 2326. (-2 pp)

The Laian government is acutely conscious of the weakness of their fleet, especially its woefully obsolete frigates. Currently, it is building Patroller-As, but even these are inadequate. Worse yet, Laian infrastructure and resource income is limited. What does the MWCD recommend? (Choose as many as you want; only those that cross a 50% threshold will be accepted).

[ ][FRIGATE] Adopt Project Emerald (-5 pp for facilitating technical assistance, prototype begins production in 2325Q3 at Bidva, -70 br, -55 sr OR additional -15 pp to arrange a resource transfer from the Honiani)
[ ][FRIGATE] Put the Mielab into production (-8 pp for facilitating technical assistance, 1-2 ordered 2325Q3, -40-80 br, -40-85 sr or additional -8-18 pp to arrange a resource transfer from the Honiani)
[ ][FRIGATE] Back the Miranda-B project (-2 pp cost to a Miranda-B refit, Starfleet must refit and transfer a Miranda-B to the Laians as soon as the project is complete (in a Laian berth if necessary, but at Starfleet expense))
[ ][FRIGATE] Build two Centaur-Bs at Adad Bande, beginning in 2325Q1 (Push back two Orah refits 1 Qtr, -26 pp to reserve the two berths and for technical assistance, -120 br & -95 sr OR additional -26 pp to arrange a resource transfer from the Honiani)
[ ][FRIGATE] Transfer mothballed Amarki frigates to the Laians (-2 pp for facilitating minor technical assistance; Laio acquires 2 Brieca-As and scraps three frigates, in 2325Q1, reduce the br & sr cost of any other [FRIGATE] option taken by 90 br & 55 sr (or additional pp cost by 15 pp))
PP costs for resource transfers will be paid in 2325Q3, when the Comet wave commences, and only if you do not have enough br/sr to cover the cost of this year's shipbuilding.

The Sarqel Treaty Organization is examining their fleet of three Torqui Leb Lagan light capital ships. Questions have arisen about the future of the class, and they are requesting your input. One school of thought suggests scrapping the Torquis in 2326 and replacement over time with Renaissance and Comet classes, and another favors extensive refits in 2329, increasing capability in a shorter timeframe. As a reminder, the STO has an income of BR 245 SR 195 O5.5 E6 T5.25. Scrapping the Torqui Leb Lagans yields 300br and 225sr.

You recommend…

[ ][STO] Adopt the Torqui Leb Lagan Flight II (C7 S7 H4 L6 P7 D7, 200 br 140 sr 6O 6E 5T, 35 br & 35 sr refit cost) and refit in 2329
[ ][STO] Scrap the Torqui Leb Lagans and replace with whatever they want.
[ ][STO] Scrap the Torqui Leb Lagans and begin new cruiser project.
[ ][STO] Scrap the Torqui Leb Lagans and replace with three Renaissance-A.
[ ][STO] Scrap the Torqui Leb Lagans and replace with two Renaissance-A and an Envoy.
[ ][STO] Scrap the Torqui Leb Lagans and replace with two Renaissance-A and a Comet.
[ ][STO] Scrap the Torqui Leb Lagans and replace with [WRITE IN - total budget of 400br/300sr, builds start between 2326-2329].

The Caitian Grand Fleet is in need of new scouting assets. Unfortunately, Caitian shipbuilding infrastructure is limited, with three 1mt and five 600kt berths in addition to their two capital-grade berths. The CGF could build a Kepler, but is reluctant to do so - particularly considering Starfleet's tendency to requisition Keplers for task force use, and the Caitians' preference for using 1mt berths for larger auxiliaries. Instead, they are interested in a light scout frigate.

[ ][CAT] Suck it up and build a Kepler (-40 pp, the Caitian Grand Fleet will order a Kepler in an Orion berth in 2325Q2, Caitian Kepler will not be made available for task force duty, barring States of Emergency, for two years following completion)
[ ][CAT] Adopt the Mielab in its current form.
[ ][CAT] Adopt the Oda-Gach Flight IIc design developed in 2324. (Requires shipyard upgrades to produce at home, -10 pp to rent an Orion berth for the initial build)
[ ][CAT] Adopt Project Carbon (Requires shipyard upgrades to produce at home, -10 pp to rent an Orion berth for the initial build)

Finally, this is a minor matter, but with the Patroller-A available for Federalization, and popular with many other navies, some within Starfleet have requested a less ... prosaic name for the class. To be honest, we at the MWCD have been unable to come to a decision ourselves, and we need someone to settle the matter.

[ ][BETZA] Rename the class the Bird of Paradise, as an analog to the Klingon Bird-of-Prey but for much more peaceful ends.
[ ][BETZA] Rename the class the Artful-class, after the first unit.
[ ][BETZA] Do not rename the class.
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[][ORION] Adopt Project Emerald as a new light frigate, capable of being built in 600kt berths. (+10 pp)
[][ORION] Support development of a Miranda-B variant (-10 pp cost to a Miranda-B refit, Starfleet must refit and transfer one Miranda-B to the Orion Union as soon as the project is complete, in an Orion berth if necessary, but at Starfleet expense).
[][ORION] Adopt Kepler as a new scout frigate, building in 2.25 years, with crew cost O2 E3 T4.
[][ORION] Adopt Project Greenleaf as a new skirmish frigate, with build time 2 years, cost 80-85 BR & 55-65 SR, and crew cost O1 E2 T2. (+10 pp)
[][ORION] Wait to refit existing cruisers

They already have Keplers, why are we building different scouts? As much as I love my design, they don't need more than 1-2 scout frigates. And re:cruisers, as I already stated they basically can't afford one new cruiser design. If I had to pick, I'd pick the Rennie-A, the Savings and Loans cruisers are already budget Envoys.


[][LAIO] Support the construction of a shipyard. (-11 pp, Laio Shipyard with 1x2mt berth will be built at Laian)

Yeah, I'll spend PP for a nice 2mt berth. With the influx of smaller designs this MWCD, more 1mt berths are no longer necessary, and they have 2 1mt and 4 600kt already. That's well enough to build Emerald or Miranda-Bs and as many Rennies, Comets, and Keplers as they can afford. With a BR/SR income of 40/35 they can't fill 2 more 1mt berths at all.

[][FRIGATE] Adopt Project Emerald (-5 pp for facilitating technical assistance, prototype begins production in 2325Q3 at Bidva, -70 br, -55 sr OR additional -15 pp to arrange a resource transfer from the Honiani)
[][FRIGATE] Back the Miranda-B project (-2 pp cost to a Miranda-B refit, Starfleet must refit and transfer a Miranda-B to the Laians as soon as the project is complete (in a Laian berth if necessary, but at Starfleet expense))
[][FRIGATE] Transfer mothballed Amarki frigates to the Laians (-2 pp for facilitating minor technical assistance; Laio acquires 2 Brieca-As and scraps three frigates, in 2325Q1, reduce the br & sr cost of any other [FRIGATE] option taken by 90 br & 55 sr (or additional pp cost by 15 pp))

I actually love the idea of the Centaur-B for the Liao, but even that is too expensive for their tiny 40/35 budget. Emerald was made for tiny polities like this, and the Miranda-B is in the same class of ship with a combat slant. The Mielab is more expensive at 70/60 and it's C3 S5 H2 L3 P1 D4 is comparable to a scout variant of the Miranda-B - I don't think this ship is suitable for the Liao at all. I would strongly recommend not building the Mielab. The Brieca-A is a sturdy combat frigate and can substitute for Miranda-Bs until they get rolling, so I support this option.

We will have 319 BR and 32 SR in 2325.Q3, plus event rewards. That said, bleeding a little PP is fine, although if I'm honest the Honiani can't really afford this either - they need to spend their massive surplus of resources and crew, not transfer it.

[][STO] Scrap the Torqui Leb Lagans and replace with three Renaissance-A.

I don't see an advantage to scrapping the Torqi Leb Lagans. Their role in the fleet is fleet combat - so the most sensible replacement is 3 Renaissance-As. But 3 Rennie-As is worse than 3 Torqi Leb Lagans. That said, the STO desperately needs resource income and has a shit ton of crew - refits are a crew-preserving measure, but they would be gaining crew by replacing the Torqi Leb Lagans with cruiser and frigates. Overall, the benefit to the Flight II design outweighs the opportunity costs.

Changed my mind - Renaissance-As can be started in 2325 and completed in 2327-2328, TLL Flight II can be started in 2329 and completed in 2330, the time value is important.


[ ][CAT] Adopt Project Carbon (Requires shipyard upgrades to produce at home, -10 pp to rent an Orion berth for the initial build)

The choice here is between the Mielab (and likely a Mielab-A in 2325-2326-2327) or the Carbon. The CGF has good resource and crew incomes, so their infra in 2326 could be spent on berth upgrades. I think this ship is a good fit for them.


[ ][BETZA] Rename the class the Bird of Paradise, as an analog to the Klingon Bird-of-Prey but for much more peaceful ends.

Yup.


Total vote:

[X][PRIORITY] Star-Kin: Refit Monastery as Long-Term
[X][PRIORITY] Caldonians: Refit old Science Cruisers as Long-Term
[X][PRIORITY] Orions: Move Inc Crew/Res to Medium Term
[X][PRIORITY] STO: Increase BR/SR as Medium-Term

[X][ORION] Adopt Project Emerald as a new light frigate, capable of being built in 600kt berths. (+10 pp)
[X][ORION] Support development of a Miranda-B variant (-10 pp cost to a Miranda-B refit, Starfleet must refit and transfer one Miranda-B to the Orion Union as soon as the project is complete, in an Orion berth if necessary, but at Starfleet expense).
[X][ORION] Adopt Kepler as a new scout frigate, building in 2.25 years, with crew cost O2 E3 T4.
[X][ORION] Adopt Project Greenleaf as a new skirmish frigate, with build time 2 years, cost 80-85 BR & 55-65 SR, and crew cost O1 E2 T2. (+10 pp)
[X][ORION] Wait to refit existing cruisers

[X][LAIO] Support the construction of a shipyard. (-11 pp, Laio Shipyard with 1x2mt berth will be built at Laian)

[X][FRIGATE] Adopt Project Emerald (-5 pp for facilitating technical assistance, prototype begins production in 2325Q3 at Bidva, -70 br, -55 sr OR additional -15 pp to arrange a resource transfer from the Honiani)
[X][FRIGATE] Back the Miranda-B project (-2 pp cost to a Miranda-B refit, Starfleet must refit and transfer a Miranda-B to the Laians as soon as the project is complete (in a Laian berth if necessary, but at Starfleet expense))
[X][FRIGATE] Transfer mothballed Amarki frigates to the Laians (-2 pp for facilitating minor technical assistance; Laio acquires 2 Brieca-As and scraps three frigates, in 2325Q1, reduce the br & sr cost of any other [FRIGATE] option taken by 90 br & 55 sr (or additional pp cost by 15 pp))

[X][STO] Scrap the Torqui Leb Lagans and replace with three Renaissance-A.

[X][CAT] Adopt Project Carbon (Requires shipyard upgrades to produce at home, -10 pp to rent an Orion berth for the initial build)

[X][BETZA] Rename the class the Bird of Paradise, as an analog to the Klingon Bird-of-Prey but for much more peaceful ends.
 
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