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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) Starfleet Ship Design Bureau, Refit ("To Boldly Go...")
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[X][ARRAY] Nominate a ship (10sr frigate/20sr cruiser/30sr explorer - 1 Qtr at the SDB base to install, +1C -1D): USS Enterprise, Ambassador, NCC-1701-C

The most advanced tech goes to the flagship. Enterprise is best suited, due to all the Weird ShitTM​ that accompanies that name.
 
We could have the Apiata scout the Gulf for us. Although I do seem to remember them having done so before.... Or am I wrong?
 
[X][JAFFA] Approve the infusion of research assets (100 RP - project will complete R&D in 4 years)

[X][ARRAY] Nominate a ship (10sr frigate/20sr cruiser/30sr explorer - 1 Qtr at the SDB base to install, +1C -1D): USS Torch, Renaissance, NCC-2617

[X][TAUNI] Endorse this plan (Tauni may be the Renaissance-class cruiser, 5pp to arrange everything, very small bump to Starfleet Industrial Route Penalty)

Enterprise can get the phaser array after it's been tested for reliability.
 
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[X][PRIORITY]Rigellians should look into refit for Oda-Gach cutters using latest technology in the short or mid-term.
[X][PRIORITY]Tellarites should build 3mt berth to be able to repair/refit their capital ships
[X][PRIORITY]Risa should build a Kepler instead of trying for the Ambassador in the mid-term.
[X][PRIORITY]Indorians should increase Tech recruitment in the short-term to prepare for crewing Amarki and Starfleet modern designs.

So my reasoning. The Tellarites are going to have both an Excelsior-A and an Ambassador. That's two capital ships they can't service in their own yards, which seem to me to be one too many. The Rigellians have 10 Oda-Gach Cutters where are completely outperformed by Centaur-Bs for only a little more cost and much less crew. It seems like there should be room for a refit to improve performance. As for Risa, look at their crew income. It would take them literally a decade to gather enough trained personnel to crew an Ambassador. A Kepler, though, that they could do in a reasonable period of time and it would have a lot of utility for them. Finally, when I look at Indorian crew income, it's a shortage of Techs that is going to hold them back when building more modern frigates.


[X][ARRAY] Insight (Renaissance)

This is a Renaissance that tentative plans had going in a Border Zone. Good as any.

[X][JAFFA] Approve the infusion of research assets (100 RP - project will complete R&D in 4 years)

We have the rp to fund this.

[X][INDORIA] Engage in Modernization as Below
-Indorians should make an effort to retire and replace their "Indorian Frigates" and "Ship of the Line" as these are obsolete for modern Federation technology. As previous Indorian designs indicate they do not highly value Presence, they may will to negotiate with Amarki for use of the Anacail frigate design. In the long timeframe they may wish to make their own Ambassador as a replacement fleet anchor.

I think advising them to join STO is way too big a step far. That's giving up a lot of their autonomy in a way we can't ask the Indorians to do.

[X][TAUNI] Endorse this plan (Tauni may be the Renaissance-class cruiser, 5pp to arrange everything, very small bump to Starfleet Industrial Route Penalty)

No Ally of ours should be building a Comnstitution-B... even if it means the Horizon gets the plans.
 
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[X][JAFFA] Approve the infusion of research assets (100 RP - project will complete R&D in 4 years)

[X][ARRAY] Nominate a ship (10sr frigate/20sr cruiser/30sr explorer - 1 Qtr at the SDB base to install, +1C -1D): USS Torch, Renaissance, NCC-2617

[X][TAUNI] Endorse this plan (Tauni may be the Renaissance-class cruiser, 5pp to arrange everything, very small bump to Starfleet Industrial Route Penalty)
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Wait, what?
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Well, it's even more luxurious than a Kepler. They'll probably either strip off most of the weapons to store space beer or use them for lightshows (and the occasional weird space drilling that we tend to use to resolve the "trapped miner" events).
 
hmm depending on how it goes this 'alignment' and 'Federalization' could end up being two opposing plans by different members.

Sounds both slightly ominous and headache inducing.
 
[x][TAUNI] Endorse this plan (Tauni may be the Renaissance-class cruiser, 5pp to arrange everything, very small bump to Starfleet Industrial Route Penalty)
[x][JAFFA] Approve the infusion of research assets (100 RP - project will complete R&D in 4 years)
[X][ARRAY] Nominate a ship (10sr frigate/20sr cruiser/30sr explorer - 1 Qtr at the SDB base to install, +1C -1D): USS Torch, Renaissance, NCC-2617
 
The Amarki are the shield of the Federation. Soon, the Genai will the nightmare of those that would it harm.

And to a lesser extent, the nightmare of those who make safety manuals, but that's already a problem.

Also, the "Alignment" and "federalisation" thing? bit creepy-homogenous :(
 
Briefvoice said:
I think advising them to join STO is way too big a step far. That's giving up a lot of their autonomy in a way we can't ask the Indorians to do.
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Eh, I dunno what the Indorians really want to do. I just know that their defensive interests align with the STO, with them all being in the spinwards-rimwards "theater".

These guys are the intuitive gut-feeling type of engineering wizards. At least that's the impression I get. I dunno if they want to continue their own ship designing, whether they're like Honiani or Gaeni in having each constructed ship be unique in its own way, how much aesthetics matter to them over functionality (low P indicates it doesn't matter much), and so forth.

I also considered them adopting Amarki designs, since they're also neighbors and Amarki are growing as a military design powerhouse.

Interested to see what you'd propose instead.
 
[X][JAFFA] Approve the infusion of research assets (100 RP - project will complete R&D in 4 years)
[X][TAUNI] Endorse this plan (Tauni may be the Renaissance-class cruiser, 5pp to arrange everything, very small bump to Starfleet Industrial Route Penalty)
 
lbmaian said:
[X][INDORIA] Provide a mission statement: Join your neighboring super-bloc, the Sarquel Treaty Organization (Seyek, Fiiral, Qloathi, plus help from Orion), and coordinate shipbuild planning and ship design planning.
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No. This is a couple steps too far, and REALLY shouldnt be done by the MWCD besides.
 
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[x][JAFFA] Approve the infusion of research assets (100 RP - project will complete R&D in 4 years)
[X][ARRAY] Nominate a ship (10sr frigate/20sr cruiser/30sr explorer - 1 Qtr at the SDB base to install, +1C -1D): USS Torch, Renaissance, NCC-2617

Shard said:
Apiata parasite ships seems potentially applicable to shuttlecraft. Ditto with Orion Dronetech.
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Stingers and even the lostech Orion drones (I don't think we ever captured ones) were ships of a hundred thousand tons. Or more. As in, the weight of an ocean liner, or more. They're not shuttlecraft. Very different design constraints, not a lot of overlap.

Finagle007 said:
[][ARRAY] Nominate a ship (10sr frigate/20sr cruiser/30sr explorer - 1 Qtr at the SDB base to install, +1C -1D): USS Enterprise, Ambassador, NCC-1701-C

The most advanced tech goes to the flagship. Enterprise is best suited, due to all the Weird ShitTM​ that accompanies that name.
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Taken to its logical conclusion this results in a flagship that can be disabled by Neelix's cheese. Sometimes a tech is too bleeding edge to be risked in a ship that is predictably going into the thick of it.
 
I think we should select a Miranda, Renaissence, or a ship we actually intend to out into Combat, such as one of the ships on the Hismeri Task Force.
 
What do we need the Indorians to do that they are good at and like doing?

Well, we know they're damn good engineers. Their pure RnD isn't the best as I understand it but they're engineering wizards.

And what are we voting for here anyway?

We're NOT suggesting short-term or fire-and-forget plans, because that's the priority box. We're suggesting an organizational mission, I think.

I'm not sure if any of the current mission statement votes are even valid.
 
Simon_Jester said:
Taken to its logical conclusion this results in a flagship that can be disabled by Neelix's cheese. Sometimes a tech is too bleeding edge to be risked in a ship that is predictably going into the thick of it.
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Obvious, ethical solution: Kill Neelix.
Or... don't use tech that.. volatile, and Kill Neelix.

Best way to mess with Stesk's face: Killing is bad, buttt... Neelix



Aww, now I feel bad :(.
 
BeepSmile said:
Obvious, ethical solution: Kill Neelix.
Or... don't use tech that.. volatile, and Kill Neelix.

Best way to mess with Stesk's face: Killing is bad, buttt... Neelix



Aww, now I feel bad :(.
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Now. You must be logical about it. If you don't kill Neelix, Stesk might have to interact with it. The good of the many etc etc.
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
The Indorians are at something of an impasse in their future shipbuilding plans. With the completion of the life-extending refits for the Peketa and Vendan class frigates, they have cleared up considerable yard space. As a result, they are attempting to develop a ten-year vision for their fleet to take them forward.
[ ][INDORIA] Provide a mission statement
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So basically what Doctrines we want for their fleet? Wolf Packs like the Apiata, a direct combat fleet like the Amarki or something else?
 
BeepSmile said:
Also, the "Alignment" and "federalisation" thing? bit creepy-homogenous :(
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The other options are giving each homeworld their own sector to patrol, or binding planetary fleets to be unable to leave the orbit of their home planet. The Federation needs to have an intermediary between planetary scale and Federation scale, for the gap between the two has widened to a gulf. No matter what, Starfleet can not bare the weight of the Federation alone. Remember, it is a Federation, not a confederation.
 
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