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Vote Tally : Sci-Fi - To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) | Page 3181 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 79519-79599]
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Task: YANROS

[x][YANROS] Support the diversion (reduced Enlisted intake when Honiani ratify, emphasis on improved Raid assets)
No. of Votes: 28
UbeOne
Alastor Mobius Toth
aledeth
Anime_Fan35
Briefvoice
Chaos Blade
charysa
Derek58
Derpmind
Forgothrax
Gingganz
Goat
KnightDisciple
lbmaian
MonkeyTypewriter
MTB
Oshha
PauliExklusor
pbluekan
pheonix89
Random Member
random_npc
Redhead222
SynchronizedWritersBlock
The Sandman
Usili 2.0
Vehrec
Winged One

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Task: ACADEMY

[X][ACADEMY] Custom - Shift 1.5 from Enlisted to Techs
No. of Votes: 19
Anime_Fan35
aledeth
Briefvoice
Chaos Blade
charysa
Derek58
Derpmind
Forgothrax
Gingganz
Goat
lbmaian
MTB
pbluekan
pheonix89
Redhead222
SynchronizedWritersBlock
The Sandman
Usili 2.0
Vehrec

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Task: EXPLORER

[X][EXPLORER] Custom - Reduce O by 0.3 and Increase T by 0.3
No. of Votes: 19
Anime_Fan35
aledeth
Briefvoice
Chaos Blade
charysa
Derek58
Derpmind
Forgothrax
Gingganz
Goat
lbmaian
MTB
pbluekan
pheonix89
Redhead222
SynchronizedWritersBlock
The Sandman
Usili 2.0
Vehrec

Total No. of Voters: 28

(Briefvoice accidentally clobbered his vote with the deployment plan, but fortunately NetTally has an option to ignore spoilers, and it's a bunch of landslide votes anyway.)
 
Can we trade the Mirandas for some, idk, extra task forces? Mirandas sux outsidenof wars.
 
Why chose between garrison requirements and Task Forces? We can have our cake and eat it too if we spend the PP for more member ships.

That's what PP is there for, to spend.
 
chriswriter90 said:
Why chose between garrison requirements and Task Forces? We can have our cake and eat it too if we spend the PP for more member ships.

That's what PP is there for, to spend.
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That's not having our cake and eating it too. PP is used for the snakepit too, you know.

100pp is already going to be earmarked for diplo pushes. We also want a HBZ starbase - another 20pp - to finish our Starfleet Ambition ASAP. And the new SR colony is gonna be snapped up for 7pp. That might just leave ~200pp for the combination of other mining colonies, more berths, command reorgs, maybe more FDS resources, a possible last service academy development... AND the member fleet requisitioning costs.
 
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100pp is already going to be earmarked for diplo pushes. We also want a HBZ starbase - another 20pp - to finish our Starfleet Ambition ASAP. And the new SR colony is gonna be snapped up for 7pp. That might just leave 200pp for the combination of other mining colonies, more berths, command reorgs, maybe more FDS resources, a possible last service academy development... AND the member fleet requisitioning costs.
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Spreading critical infrastructure, preparing another UP, looking at the new options that might come up ...
 
charysa said:
Sure. But my line of thought is, where else are you going to put our Mirandas? If given a Miranda and a Centaur, which would you rather put in an event sector and which would you rather put in that task force?
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I'm not saying "don't put Mirandas in that task force." I'm saying "DO put an Excelsior flagship in that task force."

pheonix89 said:
Yes. You are getting this again.

Pull Pathfinder off Beyond in the maximum sector reinforcement plan.
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Uh, I'd prefer that we don't do that. That task force is countering the Harmony. That is definitely a mission for which we want our highest-performing Presence ships. Tellar Sector is important, but not that important.

Briefvoice said:
Re: Tellar Sector

There's also the fact that the failed events (and those successfully responded to) don't seem to have anything in common that I can see...

I know that interpreting random number results into a story is the essence of RPGs... I do get that. But I'm looking at the Events, and I'd be really hard pressed to link these together. If you disagree, prove me wrong. Look at the Tellar Events and tell me how they could be linked together into something that can actually be investigated. I'll do some of the work for you. Look at the following logs...

Here are the failed events...

You tell me what any of that could possibly have had to do with each other, or what about it suggests some kind of pattern?
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This is well-reasoned but beside the point. It doesn't matter if there's a common cause for all three failed events. The point is that if we have a fourth event failure in rapid succession after the last three, the Tellarites are going to crucify us.

Therefore, it would behoove us to minimize the probability of such a failure, as a matter of basic common sense.

Since Tellar Sector has no border zone to call out to except the overworked SBZ, we cannot simply do this by reinforcing the adjacent border sector, which would otherwise be a viable strategy. Therefore, we do have to seriously consider putting disproportionate reinforcements into that one sector, even though I know just as well as you do that in all likelihood the only thing "wrong" there is bad luck.
 
Placing an Excelsior in the Tellar sector is somewhat reasonable if all other home sectors get at least 3 ships, at least 2 non-Miranda. Otherwise the much greater force stationed in the Tellar sector is very likely to be held against us if we fail a few events somewhere else. Not that it definitely wouldn't be held against us by anyone if the difference is just say Excelsior vs Connie-B, but the greater the disparity the stronger the argument, and reasonable people will understand that we can't post Excelsiors everywhere and that the Tellar sector will require some extra reassurance. That only goes for degrees of disparity they consider reasonable, though.
 
Hm, yeah. If just about everyone has a cruiser flagship and a couple of frigates (or a frigate and a Constellation, those being at best ambiguously suited for flagship duty), and Tellar Sector just happens to have an explorer and a cruiser and a "crack ship* " frigate, I think we can manage it.

It's the "Why do they get an Excelsior, a Rennie, and a Blooded Centaur-A when we just get a Constellation and a Miranda scenario we should be trying to avoid.

We can also address it in terms of "Tellar Sector is actually, counterintuitively, a bit isolated within our territory. With so much effort going into reinforcing to keep the Cardassians and the Harmony at bay, and the Romulans and Klingons from doing anything rash involving Federation space, much of our fleet is very distant from Tellar. Therefore, we are making sure that there is a solid, reliable task force in this key, centrally placed location.
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*Standard Napoleonic-era term for a highly trained and disciplined crew on a ship that could be expected to perform well under all circumstances, way before it became a shipping pun. TAKE BACK THE PHRASES! :)
 
Well I mean, you can keep the phrase too, I just want a share of it to stay with the old usage to increase pun potential and allow people to retain the ability to read Horatio Hornblower and Aubrey-Maturin novels.

#compromisesolutions
 
Crack has been a term of rating the skill level of a military force in general for a long time. It's not exclusive to ships.
 
I just realized this but the navy's coup has probably done massive damage to the romulans diplo/espionage efforts at large, since they are basically one and the same.
 
Gmerguy said:
I just realized this but the navy's coup has probably done massive damage to the romulans diplo/espionage efforts at large, since they are basically one and the same.
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Navy also has its own intel branch.

And they purged the Tal Shiar LEADERSHIP, for getting it into their heads that they, the intel agency brass, were the real rulers of the Romulan Star Empire.
 
pheonix89 said:
Navy also has its own intel branch.

And they purged the Tal Shiar LEADERSHIP, for getting it into their heads that they, the intel agency brass, were the real rulers of the Romulan Star Empire.
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It's not like the Navy has a better claim to the throne. They just had enough power to crush everyone in their way. And I think you are underestimating both the scale of the purge and the impact on Romulan foreign policy.
 
I think the navy would be very interested in a continuing Star Empire. Means, no poking peer powers at the moment.
Good for the Federation.
 
Some of the previous intel reports, you may recall, actually mention that the Tal Shiar's casualties incurred by post-Biophage purges and a variety of battles with Starfleet Intelligence, plus the Klingons, had meant that a lot of the foreign outreach was actually falling to different agencies. All of which helped Velim then hack a bit more off the top to take the throne.
 
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