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What can you tell me about it?
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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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Captain! We have a contact on long range sensors!
What can you tell me about it?
Signature has a 90% match to an Excelsior?
Getting an IFF. Pattern is old and out of date... Stargazer!
Hail them!
WE ARE THE BORG...
More what's going on there and for the Gorn the omakes and logs did quite well in creating a picture of them.
I don't get why some people are so hung up on the Ittick-Ka. It's not like we're in a position to do anything with them even if it turns out their area of space is on fire.
My preference would be an intelligence report on the Dawiar and how they're responding to our overtures so far; maybe find out what the ??? is for relationship points needed to pry them away from the Ashalla Pact. Or perhaps a counter-intel report on what the Lecarre have been doing, since they've been waaay too quiet lately.
My preference would be an intelligence report on the Dawiar and how they're responding to our overtures so far; maybe find out what the ??? is for relationship points needed to pry them away from the Ashalla Pact. Or perhaps a counter-intel report on what the Lecarre have been doing, since they've been waaay too quiet lately.
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Yeah, I'm with Charysa. They don't have any effect on anything while the Gorn are deliberately expanding in our direction.
Diplomatic Posture is really important for the Klingons and Romulans because the Council is going to be trying to negotiate with them. Our intelligence is used by more than just Starfleet. Merely asking about government cohesion isn't enough. We will be missing crucial information at the most crucial juncture.
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Plus, they were violent racial supremacist xenophobic jerks when we last met them ten years ago.
If they've been hammered flat by the Hishmeri, so much the better, at least it means that everyone out in that direction only has to deal with one bunch of violent space jerks at a time instead of two. If they haven't, they probably haven't changed significantly, which in turn means we'd have a huge amount of work to do in order to convince them to just not be jerks.
Given that we are not exactly overwhelmingly flush with ships, the odds are good that nothing we learn about the Ittick-Ka will make us able to, or interested in, doing anything "about" them in the near future.
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we could in true SF style make them friendly and get them not too be massive dicks along with the septs!
you know get them both about the 100 mark and let the FDS do it job working them into our sphere. (like what i would not mind for say bolians, trill and one or two others on the list)
ya they are massive dick, but they could be useful dicks working for us (also a diplomatic win if we can do it)
you know get them both about the 100 mark and let the FDS do it job working them into our sphere. (like what i would not mind for say bolians, trill and one or two others on the list)
ya they are massive dick, but they could be useful dicks working for us (also a diplomatic win if we can do it)
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It's not that we can't, it's that there are so, so many other things we could be doing that are better uses of our time than to win over this one species that shows every sign of hating us and wanting to do the exact opposite of everything we stand for.
Double plus, they're just not important.
We haven't heard a whisper from them in over an in-game decade. If they were actually important, the GMs would've had them show up again by now.
What part about 'We have more important fires to put out' do you not get?
1. The Cardassians are making noises about 'peace' which can only mean they want to stab us in the back.
2. The Horizon are moving in to steal our affiliates and potential affiliates, while cutting off out expansion.
3. The Klingon/Romulan war has come to a head and now we have to pick up the pieces.
3a. The time has come to affiliate the Romulans!
4. The Gorn are back and muscling in on the Federation and weakened Klingons.
5. The Licori are still all kinds of fucked up.
-[Romulan Influence: 22/100]
-[Horizon Influence: 0/100]
-[Slavery: 0/500]
-[Unequal Feudal Society: 0/500]
And I'm sure there's a good dozen I'm forgetting.
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do note that i said we could do these thing.
not that we should do these things
our problems with C has nothing to do with any of that
H are a problem but we are working on that as best we can
the K/R war looks too be on its last legs so sure there are problems there but i do not see how that effects any of our pushes
maybe we can or can`t affiliate the romulans but that a debate for if and when that becomes a thing
the Gorn are a long term concern yes but i think not much of one
like i said getting the smaller groups in is a great diplo win, even if it just too get the itcck and sept to be less dickish that would be nice (also both are around 80 so getting them too 100 and at least in the pipeline would not be that hard.
however much more interested in bolians/trills and anyone else that an easy get
not that we should do these things
our problems with C has nothing to do with any of that
H are a problem but we are working on that as best we can
the K/R war looks too be on its last legs so sure there are problems there but i do not see how that effects any of our pushes
maybe we can or can`t affiliate the romulans but that a debate for if and when that becomes a thing
the Gorn are a long term concern yes but i think not much of one
like i said getting the smaller groups in is a great diplo win, even if it just too get the itcck and sept to be less dickish that would be nice (also both are around 80 so getting them too 100 and at least in the pipeline would not be that hard.
however much more interested in bolians/trills and anyone else that an easy get
I would think that asking the details about the specific personalities in charge of the new government and understanding how much political pull they really have would be way more useful for negotiations than asking about their Diplomatic Posture to outsiders.
EDIT: I know player-created reports can be a bit risky, but my purpose was to try and find phrasing that would be of maximum use for the specific negotiations we are trying to support.
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You know things could have changed in those last ten years.
Look we not focusing solely on them, just push them to basic affiliates when things died down a little, in the end we are working on those other big power problems, sending a ship to check on the Ittick-Ka later is not a waste and you can't expect them to not change, maybe some of their tags reduces or something.
Look we not focusing solely on them, just push them to basic affiliates when things died down a little, in the end we are working on those other big power problems, sending a ship to check on the Ittick-Ka later is not a waste and you can't expect them to not change, maybe some of their tags reduces or something.
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Sending a ship to the Ittick-Ka is not a bad idea at all.
Burning one of our six intel reports, in a year where keeping even minimally aware of the goings-on of a massive war on our border that is likely to end within a year or less takes up three of them, and where at least one more is very desirable to support the actions of an active task force, is... not not a bad idea, in my opinion.
Burning one of our six intel reports, in a year where keeping even minimally aware of the goings-on of a massive war on our border that is likely to end within a year or less takes up three of them, and where at least one more is very desirable to support the actions of an active task force, is... not not a bad idea, in my opinion.
I wouldn't even be sending a ship to the Ittick-Ka, honestly. If we had spare ships, I would rather send that ship over to the Bolians or the Trill first. You know - polities that are actually on our map radar, which we can more easily affiliate, and which are at least at the same level of advancement as us and thus probably have more benefits to offer.
Trying to fix the Ittick-Ka while ignoring all the unaffiliated polities next to us seems to be...suboptimal. There's no reason why we have to do it now, rather than wait until our borders have naturally been pushed down past Trill and closer to the Gorn border, by which time they'd be closer to our space to be more relevant to our interests.
Trying to fix the Ittick-Ka while ignoring all the unaffiliated polities next to us seems to be...suboptimal. There's no reason why we have to do it now, rather than wait until our borders have naturally been pushed down past Trill and closer to the Gorn border, by which time they'd be closer to our space to be more relevant to our interests.
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I quite agree with this.
My main point is that dispatching a single ship out that way (say, an Explorer Corps ship that could do useful SCIENCE! on the way) isn't a waste of our time or anything. I'm pretty sure burning an intel report on them would be, especially this year with the Klingon-Romulan War moving into its last gasps before everyone screams and explodes.
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that only problem being that what ship do we have that's available to send. Every single ship we have is busy somewhere.
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The solution is obvious - build new ones!
...You know, this style of reasoning explains why Vulcan had to commission a brand-new ship to try and save Romulus from a supernova.
Thors_Alumni
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Do we have any that are due to launch in the next few quarters? I do think we should build a separate berth to build Excelsior-As and nothing else.
Why would we want to build more new Excelsiors? We have Ambassadors about to launch to do the long range work and are working out a supplementary heavy cruiser or light capital for the short range role.
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We have created the biggest star ship factory in known space in the Sol system to pump out Ambassadors (and lesser vessels) in job lots. No other known location in any political space can build as many or as fast.
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Theunderbolt
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It is that fear that drives an under current amoung long time readers to have a second UP level facility somewhere.
It also ties into canon where fending off attacks on Sol were critical to the Federations survival.
Theunderbolt
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Yeah, I remember the talks about one. I believe we wanted Rigel or Amarkia?
The Romulans by far. Here are, roughly, the distances from the nearest possible staging grounds in every empire to Sol:
- Romulans: Ithrid II -> Sol = 35LY
- Klingons: Tregh'bak -> Sol = 45LY
- Pact: Kharhazad -> Sol = 46LY
- Harmony: Harven -> Sol = 69LY
*tooph ye holena outside your house at 3am blasting 'run away with me' and holding a sign that says ALUKK*
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