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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

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Raron said:
Yes. The highest ranking Tellarite is a Rear Admiral, which means he isn't qualified for the spot of Commander of Starfleet. Which is constantly the problem. All the other Original Four have several candidates for the Commander of Starfleet in the last 2 decades. The Tellerites? None.
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He'll get there Raron just got to believe!
 
JesseJ said:
Honestly on the Tellarites it feels kind of like: There aren't many Tellarites in Starfleet, so Tellarites aren't highly represented in the higher ranks, so there isn't a Tellarite Hero (for lack of a better word) to be highly visible and drive recruitment, so there aren't many Tellarites in Starfleet.
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While Tellar has the least planets out of the original Four (Five compared to Vulcan six or Human/Andorian Seven), that still does not explain the vast under representation of Tellarites in Starfleet. The other races have full pledged Admirals running departments, and Amarakians are close to having their own Admiral.

This is the only logical conclusion.
#RestoreTheTimeline
 
[X] Shey ch'Tharvasse (on sabbatical, working with Rigellians) - bonus to Diplomatic resources

I want Sirvk, but that would be a development administration pick. Given the current political situation domestic and otherwise, I can't see the President making another pick except to pander to the Vulcan wing of the party, and I don't want to play that kind of political games with Starfleet.
 
Raron said:
Yes. The highest ranking Tellarite is a Rear Admiral, which means he isn't qualified for the spot of Commander of Starfleet. Which is constantly the problem. All the other Original Four have several candidates for the Commander of Starfleet in the last 2 decades. The Tellerites? None.
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That's because they're awful pig-monster people.

I mean to say, what an unfortunate coincidence.
 
Alias said:
Not a fan of excluding a potential Starfleet Commander just because there Human.
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It's necessary to counteract systemic biases in favor of humans. Given the patterns we've seen I don't think it can be denied that Starfleet is institutionally prejudiced in favor of humans, they make up a huge swathe of the Admiralty, far more proportionately than Earth's prodigious recruitment share. Appointing a non-human admiral is a way of slowing these tendencies by addressing the most obvious symptom.
 
Raron said:
[X] Sotak (Central Theater) - bonus to br/sr income

Where is the Tellarite pick? Once against the voting system is rigged :mad:.
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My working hypothesis is that Tellarites are actually systematically disadvantaged in terms of reaching high rank in a multispecies force because they are, usually, very bad at being 'smooth operators.'

Alias said:
Not a fan of excluding a potential Starfleet Commander just because there Human.
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Well yeah, but we've basically gotten into a situation where five commanders over about a thirty-year period were human. We're excluding a lot of potential commanders because they aren't human. For that matter, we can never 'get them all,' so there's always a lot of exclusions.

Blazinghand said:
All we need to do is wait for unusual magnetic conditions or an ion storm...
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Leslie:

"Yeah, the last time I tried that I found out firsthand what happens when you rip Jim Kirk's shirt. EVIL Kirk. No futzing around with transporters in an ion storm. Evil Shey would be too sarcastic."
 
[X] Shey ch'Tharvasse (on sabbatical, working with Rigellians) - bonus to Diplomatic resources

I like Sotak's background and bonus, but Shey's got the snark and the more interesting narrative voice, sorry.

EDIT: Also, LOL at Tellarites.
 
My basic headcanon has Tellarites being more or less Dwarves. Except not as short. And really, really, and I mean really ripped. So, basically Draphs from GBF.

But then again, I consider Konen to be purple evil Amaraki and Gaeni being not!Sophons, so... :V
 
Glassware said:
It's necessary to counteract systemic biases in favor of humans. Given the patterns we've seen I don't think it can be denied that Starfleet is institutionally prejudiced in favor of humans, they make up a huge swathe of the Admiralty, far more proportionately than Earth's prodigious recruitment share. Appointing a non-human admiral is a way of slowing these tendencies by addressing the most obvious symptom.
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Just because the demographic's of the Admiralty don't match the demographic's of Starfleet doesn't mean Starfleet is institutionally prejudiced in favor of humans. As well I can clearly see this is being done for political reasons. However, denying a person even the consideration of being promoted because of their species doesn't gel with the ideas of the Federation. Though I've accepted that this is how things are for this vote.
 
Alias said:
Just because the demographic's of the Admiralty don't match the demographic's of Starfleet doesn't mean Starfleet is institutionally prejudiced in favor of humans. As well I can clearly see this is being done for political reasons. However, denying a person even the consideration of being promoted because of their species doesn't gel with the ideas of the Federation. Though I've accepted that this is how things are for this vote.
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On the other hand, even the Klingons were calling you guys out, and that was before you went and had a further four human Admirals in a row. :D
 
[X] Shey ch'Tharvasse (on sabbatical, working with Rigellians) - bonus to Diplomatic resources

My understanding is that pretty much all our ship building resources are fairly well balanced, so enhancing one would not give us much because the others would quickly become bottlenecks. Better to take the diplomat to slow the rate that new fires pop up than get a slightly faster bucket.
 
[X] Shey ch'Tharvasse (on sabbatical, working with Rigellians) - bonus to Diplomatic resources

Interesting to see that we're shown the bonus we get from selecting an Admiral, when we haven't yet before. I assume this is due to our President's Betazoidic Telepath ability, or maybe an omake bonii from Briefvoice's omake. Either works.
 
I think this is also a sign of greater Federation unity. Back in the old days, there were significant Andorian-Vulcan tensions (see the Babel conference back when Sulu was on the Enterprise) that would have made officers of either in command of Starfleet an issue.

That pushed for a preference for Humans as all of the member races accepted them as less likely to have bias.

This looks like a sign that either it is less of an issue, or there are enough new members who don't care about that to move on from the old rivalry.
 
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I don't know why this (brilliant) post hasn't been linked yet? Anyways, I'm not sure that the other candidates would have a chance even if the bonuses weren't listed. He's certainly the most in-character choice for a Pacifist president. I wonder who people woukd vote for if not for ch'Tharvasse. Me, I'd vote for Sirvk. He likes starships. I also like starships. He has leadership experience, sure, and his OP bonus would greatly speed our ability to fill sectors with ships to respond to events. But the important part is that he recognizes starships are cool. I can't not approve of that.

[X] Sirvk (Shipyard Ops) - bonus to starship construction
 
[X] Shey ch'Tharvasse (on sabbatical, working with Rigellians) - bonus to Diplomatic resources

We're going to need to counter the renewed Horizon diploffessnsive, and he seems to the the soph for the job.
 
[x] Shey ch'Tharvasse (on sabbatical, working with Rigellians) - bonus to Diplomatic resources

A peacemaker is a good thing, plus he jives well with the President's preferences.
 
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