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Na, if we develop 2mt cruisers all these 1mt and smaller berths must be used for something ...
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
- Thread starter OneirosTheWriter
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Keplers. We want so many Keplers you can walk from San Fran Yards to UP Yards without needing a spacesuit.
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Thebigpieman
I've got this, I think.
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It's time we reached peak Treasure Planet.
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Before or after we re-invent the doors?
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
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- Liberl Zemuria.
No we didn't. We found it in the last Captains log so its still unclaimed.
We had the option to buy a 2 MT Berth for cheap and didn't take it. And now look at where we are and what we are talking about. Next snakepit is going to be a doozy.
If we could manage that the Cardassians and the rest of our enemies Current and future wouldn't stand a chance against us.
Lets plan for after we invent the doors shall we.
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Enough keplars that we can retire our tech teams because Kepler swarms can just science the shit out of anything?
BTW I also got an answer about the HIP, confirmed to not affect aux or member yards.
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Forgothrax
Not Going Gently
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Not for a very long time. It will be at least 20 years until we can do better and given that these are response ships they are going to pile on veterancy like none other.
AKuz
Been Better
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... Trade some to the ISC, in about 10 years?
I don't think so. We still don't know much of anything about the ISC, and they are probably pretty paranoid about letting us find out more. And we don't give some of our best ships to a rival major power we know nothing about.
The only way i'd agree to giving them some Keplers is if they affiliate themselves to us, and i suspect that is just not happening.
al103
Grumpy Russian Bear (SV edition)
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- Russia, Krasnoyarsk
Think KanColle or other shitton of collectible games, only Startrek. Present on Steam.
FTP is truly FTP and PTW is not annoying (yet... for me), prices are totally bullshit but I'm going full FTP anyway.
PS. Or if you mean event and questchain... I suck at it. Which causes like 75% of frustration about not being able to stop.
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1) Ten years.
2) They seem to have contact to the Horizon(?), and with the Cardassians (soon at least). Between those two, we should like a really good option to strengthen defenses. Because I think we will allow "tourists" to tour the Federation.
I'd put it this way. Don't give anything to the ISC you wouldn't feel comfortable with the Klingons, the Romulans, or the Ferengi getting their hands on. Now, and the answer won't change ten years unless they do something that really demonstrates they intend to be a permanent long term ally of the Federation.
Yeah, it's nice that the ISC seems pretty positive and democratic and non-terrible, but democratic ideals are no guarantee a power will be on our side in any war.... just ask the Yrillians.
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The ten years were also meant as a period to get to know each other.
pheonix89
Wants to be Seven Of Nine
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The ISC is cautious as fuck.
They're about as likely to shoot first as we are because they're not interested spending forces fighting people they don't need to fight when they might need them to stop ANOTHER doomsday level threat.
They're about as likely to shoot first as we are because they're not interested spending forces fighting people they don't need to fight when they might need them to stop ANOTHER doomsday level threat.
I don't agree. Their experience has taught them that sooner or later everyone is people they need to fight, so shooting first is only good sense. Shooting first and shooting last is best of all.
pheonix89
Wants to be Seven Of Nine
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They didn't shoot first when we met them, so we can rule out that assumption.
AKuz
Been Better
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They haven't started shooting us, yet. That doesn't rule out them shooting us ever.
The Cardassians didn't start out shooting either.
I get the feeling they came very, very close. It's notable they only relaxed around the Courageous after it helped them shoot someone else. I mean, who does that... invite a new First Contact to participate in a combat action against some of your own internal pirates? That was some Klingon-level shit right there.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Except that's not what happened? That was a different update?
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Okay, I'd like to move that we abstain from making assertions about the ISC being trigger-happy, like "they believe they should always shoot first" or whatever. There is very close to zero direct evidence on their behavior from Oneiros, of any kind whatsoever.
The evidence we've seen does not strongly support the belief that the ISC is likely to attack us without cause. On the other hand, the evidence we've seen doesn't rule out the possibility of the ISC believing it has cause, at a time when we would not see things that way.
But in either case, the only people who are remotely qualified to tell us how the ISC thinks are the three posters who collaborated to develop it, and Oneiros who has final say on how much of their work gets integrated into the game.
The rest of us should restrict ourselves to speculation, and admit that we are speculating, rather than say that the ISC are stupidly aggressive or stupidly paranoid or some such thing. Especially not when this is due largely to our own personal private reading of connotations and subtext in between the (very sparse) lines of Oneiros's published captains' logs on the ISC.
We've already managed to blow up one conversation about the ISC, and we did it by making too much soup from too few oysters, causing people to believe they had reason to hate the ISC when in fact they barely knew the ISC. Let's please not repeat the exact same mistake, okay everyone?
The evidence we've seen does not strongly support the belief that the ISC is likely to attack us without cause. On the other hand, the evidence we've seen doesn't rule out the possibility of the ISC believing it has cause, at a time when we would not see things that way.
But in either case, the only people who are remotely qualified to tell us how the ISC thinks are the three posters who collaborated to develop it, and Oneiros who has final say on how much of their work gets integrated into the game.
The rest of us should restrict ourselves to speculation, and admit that we are speculating, rather than say that the ISC are stupidly aggressive or stupidly paranoid or some such thing. Especially not when this is due largely to our own personal private reading of connotations and subtext in between the (very sparse) lines of Oneiros's published captains' logs on the ISC.
We've already managed to blow up one conversation about the ISC, and we did it by making too much soup from too few oysters, causing people to believe they had reason to hate the ISC when in fact they barely knew the ISC. Let's please not repeat the exact same mistake, okay everyone?
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
To follow up on that, here's the sum total of interactions with the ISC, in order.
Note that relations started at Cordial, and didn't shift categories from the pirate hunting?
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TFW someone starts pulling quotes to disprove your point and show it wasn't what happened, and you instead feel it proves your point and shows that was what happened.
Yes, it was a different update, but it was still in that First Contact period of time. Going by stardate digits = days, the Courageous participated in a joint anti-piracy operation less than 50 days after meeting the ISC for the first time.