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America idealized, maybe.But the UFP is America IN SPACE!
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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Given how some of our officers are so disdainful of foreigners with their foreign, money-making ways, I'm not so sure.America idealized, maybe.
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Well... Isn't that just America, but inverted?
Eh. Close enough.
But the UFP is America IN SPACE!
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The UFP is an ideal socialist state by any measure.
The UFP is in a sliding state between being the EU, America, and Fully Automated Luxury Scandanavian Socialism with a dash of 'it's so far in the future we probably don't have a word for it' depending on the writer that week, what the fans think, and the capricious whims of IRL budget.
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Based off of that one election update, it's closest to Fully Automated Amazonian World Minus Money
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thank you simon for not being a help at all
still hearing nothing but air on my comment but that what i about expect from this point
god forbid someone else might make a good point
could not have that
still hearing nothing but air on my comment but that what i about expect from this point
god forbid someone else might make a good point
could not have that
Stop: Stop
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@Redhead222 has been infracted and threadbanned for one week for violations of Rule 4, "Don't be disruptive".
I went back and re-read your very confusing previous post. As someone who has tried to [badly] learn a foreign language, I understand your frustration trying to communicate. However, you could attempt to be more self-aware about your limitations in this regard. Also, good forum etiquette is something that like, you can just do. Now that I know you were quoting @AlphaDelta I can actually make sense of your post -- this is not a thing about hot air. This is about communicating your thoughts and ideas. This is the fundamental point of language. Again, I have sympathy because based on your location English is not your native tongue. But if you want to fall completely into structural nihilism, you will only become more frustrated.
To get to your point -- we are not trying to start a war by driving a fleet towards the Hishmiri. The attempt is to show we have a credible amount of force and put an end to their exploitation of a pre-war civ. Nomads by definition take the past of least resistance, and seeing is believing. If they see we have a fleet, if they see have the the ability to contest them and more it is a very valuable tool. As @Simon_Jester noted, for all we know the Lacarre are saying all sorts of stuff about how weak we are. If we have to have a fight, I'd rather have it out there, rather than a Hishmiri fleet showing up over Fiiral and kidnapping the King, but more importantly the average Fiiral citizen, and forcing them into a life of slavery. Or showing up over Quolathi homeworld, or devastating infrastructure at Cait.
But ideally, we won't have to have a fight. The Hishmiri will get the implication of the fleet while we negotiate. I'd advocate we send a lone EC Excelsior to handle this but I simply am not sure that is safe [also, Atuin has been whelping pretty hard on its rolls :| ]. Risk is the EC's business, of course, but we don't have to take unnecessary risk.
Of course, the important point I keep coming back to -- none of this is set in stone. We might not be able to do anything because the President says no. We are gaming out what we might be able to muster so we're ready to go. But nothing is happening, and nothing may happen.
E: sorry @foamy I was in the middle of this post when you wrote that
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Well, the sneering at foreign ideals is totally us, to a tee. As grating as I find it, I am glad that the game master throws in little bits of sentiment like that from time to time; it's a useful reminder that the UFP is perfectly capable of being obnoxious, just like their various neighbors.
Such a shame - counting money is fun!
Unless you do it for a living. Then it's just tedious.
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Violation of Rule 4: "Don't be disruptive". Mod posts are not excuses to pile on.
Goshawnar fite not rite, y u no respekt glorius gowshanar cultur?
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At which point, President N'Gir gets in the cab of a bulldozer and declares that "
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But she's Development.
"The USS Ambassador has been rushed and is now known as the USS Overlord Tank for reasons I cannot fathom but that the meme department assures me is suitably, 'dank.'"
Hey, someone needs to build the factories that will make the equipment that will make the Federation larger.
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Well, most nomadic civilizations aren't, most of the time. 95 to 99% of the time or so, a given group of nomads is not in full-on Ghengis Khan mode, and/or they're not nearly as proportionately dangerous to whoever they're intruding on as Ghengis Khan was.
Furthermore, IF the Hishmeri are in full 'conquering horde' mode, we will have ample time for this to become obvious and to mobilize a more coordinated response. The results could be bad, but not so bad that it justifies a hasty or disproportionate response.
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On the other hand. If we were worried about Ghengis Khan tiems. It's not us who should be worried.
It should be the Klingons.
The Mongols attacked a divided China at war with itself. We and the Cardassians are both stable right now. But the Klingons are 100% into a War... and as I have discovered the mutual defence aspects of Khitomer have yet to be implemented...
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It should be the Klingons.
The Mongols attacked a divided China at war with itself. We and the Cardassians are both stable right now. But the Klingons are 100% into a War... and as I have discovered the mutual defence aspects of Khitomer have yet to be implemented...
> : |
Too late pal I already stripped the GBZ of everything except an Oberth and we're flyin 'em straight into unclaimed space LET'S GET WILD
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Guys I wasn't actually being serious when I wrote my last post. That post was meant as a Snarking comment not to be taken seriously.
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Well, if the Klingons are in danger of being attacked from behind by the Hishmeri, and the Hishmeri are strong enough that this is actually a major threat for the Klingons (as opposed to merely causing them to lose momentum against the Romulans)... We can hopefully respond to that too- say, by trying to negotiate a ceasefire.
The inmates have become unruly and are running the asylum again!
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Coalition-building is rather important in the political arena.
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Compared to the people who want us to send a warfleet off to defend the pre-warp world?
Stesk didn't want a military solution even when there was a threat against half the federation.