I find this sort of ironically funny because @Iron Wolf and I have been putting the finishing touches and a write up of the traditional structure of the Sydraxian government.

I guess it's now a "This is what just blew up" report.

Also: Poor Chad. Things just keep going wrong under his watch.
 
Of note, this step took until Theatre Command picked up their morning tea and communiques, a full 0.4 stardates.
Clearly Sotak needs to establish procedures for being woken up for urgent messages.
Why do we lose pp for a situation we couldn't know or prevent? It's not like we were connected with pre-warp civilization at all.
The penalty is for the failed roll the event was built around, not based on the flavor of the event that resulted.
 
I hope this was just a Hishmeri raid with a few advance scouts and not a full blown smash and grab.

There may be something left to protect other than ashes.

I really really hope we get those Intel reports now.
 
What does a success look like?

A'Tuin beats them to the punch and the sects decide tangling with a capital ship isn't worth it?

And the people planetside don't have the worst possible First Contact happen to them.

If there's anyone left we may actually have to try to uplift them.... as much as that galls me they've already had their culture altered what we can do is help preserve it against space Mongols.
 
Linderley is telling me that on Dar Nakar the Reds are dying in the streets, the Greens have run for the hills, the Blues are holding together by the skin of their teeth and the Graduates and Vanguard are fighting for the future of the Hierarchy.
So I've forgotten the details about some of these factions, like who the greens are.

A refresher course for those of similar ignorance: Six Dawn Hours

Maybe there's a more recent write-up and summary of Sydraxian politics, but I can't find one.


Oops. Let's pick another letter.

SpcS?
I meant that "Spc" is an auxiliary ship specific term. It's nothing to do with cloaking or science or combat at all, and there's no benefit to trying to confuse a new term related to cloaking with an auxiliary ship term. There's no need for shorthand for anti-cloaking check yet because it's basically the same as a science check (with possible tech bonuses).
 
I mean... I get that we lose the pp because we lose the event roll, I'm just wondering how that translates into narrative given the narrative presentation of the fail appears to be bad luck.

Maybe it's just a reduction in free resources available for our interests given the crisis.
 
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Why do we lose pp for a situation we couldn't know or prevent? It's not like we were connected with pre-warp civilization at all.

Because you actually failed the dice rolls that were involved.

Besides that, Starfleet is kind of supposed to ensure shit like that doesn't happen. And failed.


So... I'm entirely for dropping a fleet ball on the Atuin with instructions to safeguard the locals and to tell the raiders off. Violently, if needed.

What's the odds that we can force the Graduates and Vanguard into an (uneasy) alliance that stops the bloodshed while Federation observers help with the transition? I'm expecting the Cardassians to yell bloody murder about that though.
 
2316.Q3 Captains Log
15 rp
30 pp
25 Seyek
25 Tauni
25 Yan-Ros
25 Honiani
25 Orion
-10 Qloathi
5rp/yr
15br/yr
Qloathi Mission Failed however, dire consequences averted
Caldonian situation nearly resolved, Council will respond to request for peacekeepers by end of quarter
Sydraxian political football encountered

New Relations:
Affiliates-
Gaeni 500/500 - Ratification will go ahead in Q4 due to Treaty of Gaen
Caldonians 500/500 - Ratification blocked due to ongoing Moratorium (may need additional work before membership, political opposition to current government-Starfleet has managed contact and gathered opposition though and is moving to attempt diplomacy with the Caldonian government-should be event for Odyssey next quarter)
Orions 500/500+25=500 (may need additional work before membership, after effects of Orion Syndicate)
Seyek 500/500+25=500/500 (separatist issues between two species seem to have been resolved, membership to Federation was a positive factor as it provides representation by planet allowing second species to have their own councilor upon joining)
Risa 499/500 (no issues sighted, expect them to be pacifist more so than Vulcans)
Qloathi 500/500-10=490/500 (may need additional work before membership, corrupt group of Senators-some of corruption has been exposed)
Kadeshi 328/500 (long distance journey, no benefits for being 300+ and no chance of membership at this time)
Honiani 326/500+25=351/500 (may need additional work before membership-war conspiracy-Yan-Ros attempting to expose, waiting event conclusion of exposure)
Ked Paddah 276/500 (lingering issues from Licori war, concern over Gaeni and Licori science, Gaeni and Federation beginning steps to resolve concern of Gaeni science with a research exchange)
Yan-Ros 266/500+25+21=312/500 (subject of diplo push) (only issue that has arisen is Yan-Ros criminal elements, two strains, one focused on smuggling dangerous wild life to other planets, second criminal and cartel members)
Laio 139/500 (primitive ships T -2 tier (so earlier than the Constitution, believe that is Ranger-era for us), may need time to adjust to more advanced tech, not enough info to determine if other issues)
Tauni 123/500+25+20=168/500 (subject of diplo push) (primitive ships compared to current Federation standard, asking for aid in tech catchup, tech is scattershot thanks to previous alien overlords that were thrown off their planet, overlord location is unknown but assumed to be corewards)

Other Possible Members
Yrillians 355/100 - Affiliate Membership Internally + Externally Obstructed, but lines of dialogue opened (strong ties to the Sydraxians)
Gretarians 110/100 - Affiliate status blocked externally and internally, but the idea is being floated (currently pays 'protection' money in form of resource to Sydraxians to keep Yrillian pirates at bay, Yrillian pirates are working with Sydraxians in this)
Ashidi 93/100 (somewhere rim wards of the Seyek have had some contact with Ashella pact members)
Obar 65/100 (introduced to us by the Honiani, are somewhere corewards)
Hishmeri 64/100 (nomad fleet of raiders, diplo pushes only function at half value)
Sotaw 35/100 (located in the Neutral Zone, avoided becoming victims of the biophage)
Licori 25/100+10=35/100 - Affiliate Status impossible [Recently at war]
Ittick-ka 25/100 (have had no contact- aggressive species that requires tribute from others and may try to take tribute by force, less advanced than us and refused diplo contact-we tried a diplo push and it failed, located rimwards of the Federation)

Ashella Pact
Bajorians 109/100 - Affiliate Status impossible [Cardassian Patronage]
Dawiar 101/100 - Affiliate Status impossible [Cardassian Client]
Dylaarians 60/100Lecarrens -30/100
Sydraxians [In flux]/100 (currently in hidden contact with multiple elements of their society, have received a +25 relations boost in 2316.Q1, graduate and vanguard factions have taken the lead, reds have fallen)
Konen - x/100
Goshawnar - x/100

Of notes with diplo push this quarter Yan-Ros will be over 300. Qloathi may have lost their spot in the membership lineup, they were before the Orions, Seyek and Risans in terms of hitting 500 first. They still will be back to 500 from annual rolls though.

Edit: Added in diplo-push results from the quarter for ease of refrence
 
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Besides that, Starfleet is kind of supposed to ensure shit like that doesn't happen. And failed.


So... I'm entirely for dropping a fleet ball on the Atuin with instructions to safeguard the locals and to tell the raiders off. Violently, if needed.

What's the odds that we can force the Graduates and Vanguard into an (uneasy) alliance that stops the bloodshed while Federation observers help with the transition? I'm expecting the Cardassians to yell bloody murder about that though.

Let them. Their favoured government is falling to pieces.

On the other hand, I am fairly certain that the Cardassian embassy and remaining military presence (Mostly, say, Naval infantry guarding tech transfer stockpiles) is probably what is keeping the Blues barely in the fight.

I suspect that the Cardassian embassy itself has already been stormed.
 
Welp, at least the choice is shaping up between the Blues, Graduates, and Vanguard. Either of the last two are fine, given that we will get at minimum a negotiated peace and withdrawal from the Ashalla Pact from both. I guess it's time to see Sulu's bonus in action...
 
I think we're going to need to gather up a fleetball and inform the Sects that they WILL be leaving the planet and they will be leaving Federation Space. No, they do not have a say in the matter save whether they leave under their own power or as space dust.
 
I suspect this may be a single far ranging sect (after all the main body of the fleet is a year away) doing a little private enrichment. Not a full blown all out attack/occupation.
 
So I've forgotten the details about some of these factions, like who the greens are.
RED: HOW DARE YOU UNGRATEFUL SHITS TO DO NOT LIKE OUR POLITICAL DECISIONS!!!!!
Blue & Green coalition: Chill, people, it wasn't that bad by the way we totally know some swell people that are called Romulans for better option
Graduates: *too busy cosplaying Kemal (hopefully with less genocide) to state their position*
Vanguard: well there is such nice thing called constitution, so, let's maybe make one... *hides self-made bomb behind back*
 
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Hold up. Why is it our responsibility to protect that planet? The Klingons and Romulans probably subjugate pre-warp species all the time. Why is this one our business?
Because it's damn close to our space.

And if we could beat on Klingons or Romulans with the same ease as we could a mobile minor we'd smack them around for it too.
 
I suspect that the Cardassian embassy itself has already been stormed.

Couldn't have happened to a better bunch of Bastards!
Welp, at least the choice is shaping up between the Blues, Graduates, and Vanguard. Either of the last two are fine, given that we will get at minimum a negotiated peace and withdrawal from the Ashalla Pact from both. I guess it's time to see Sulu's bonus in action...
Maybe we will get lucky and they will pull out of the Ashalla Pact altogether.

I think we're going to need to gather up a fleetball and inform the Sects that they WILL be leaving the planet and they will be leaving Federation Space. No, they do not have a say in the matter save whether they leave under their own power or as space dust.
Who do we have available to send?

Hold up. Why is it our responsibility to protect that planet? The Klingons and Romulans probably subjugate pre-warp species all the time. Why is this one our business?

Because protecting the undeveloped races is part of the job of being a starfleet officer.

I suspect this may be a single far ranging sect (after all the main body of the fleet is a year away) doing a little private enrichment. Not a full blown all out attack/occupation.
That still doesn't change the fact that we have to stop them from furthur harming the race that they just attacked as well as any other pre warp races in there path.
Because it's damn close to our space.

And if we could beat on Klingons or Romulans with the same ease as we could a mobile minor we'd smack them around for it too.
Eloquently put.
 
Hold up. Why is it our responsibility to protect that planet? The Klingons and Romulans probably subjugate pre-warp species all the time. Why is this one our business?
Because we know about them. Interacting with a problem in any way at all makes you responsible for the outcome, even if that outcome would have been the same or worse if you had had no interaction at all. At least that's what's implied by conventional standards of who is or can be blamed for what, even though it doesn't make any sense under consequentialist ethics.

Examples: Not being willing to jump into a river to save a drowning child vs not donating money to save a starving child half way around the world, exploiting people by paying them too low wages that are higher than what they would have earned otherwise, going out of your way to sell people essential supplies at "inflated" prices in a crisis vs leaving them without supplies.
 
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So, we've got a full up Sydraxian Civil War, and any chance of diplomacy beyond "surrender unconditionally or die" with the Hishimari just vanished.

I have no doubt that the hawks would like us to drop a fleetball on the Hishimari's ass.
1) I dunno, it really does depend on the stance taken by the Hishmeri themselves, and we have so little contact with them we don't know what they'll do.
2) The Hawks are a small minority party. Focus on what Development and Expansion are going to think. There is no possible Council majority that doesn't contain at least two of {Development, Expansionist, Pacifist}.

But, a "science advancement" faction? None of the existing factions, none of the populace are against science. Like, what position are these guys going to take that others are going to disagree with? If it's about allowing the Gaeni brand of mad science, it's not like the Federation is going to inhibit them other than enforcing the ban of forbidden technology that the Gaeni don't seem to be interested in anyway. Their technology and engineering are considered crazy by even Human standards, but it's not considered recklessly dangerous to civilization. What is their policy going to be that they think other factions may disagree with?

I mean, just to be clear, an advancer faction could work. But it would make much more sense coming out of the Orions or Licori (if the latter ever become members) due to the various bans and prejudices against genetic augmentation, or other trans-sophonist themes, that they favor. Much of the Federation is hostile to the notion, or neutral at best, so this advancer faction do have a policy that they can fight for.
The Gaeni do cybernetics fairly heavily although it's kind of a background thing, probably because the Federation doesn't have the reflexive loathing of cybernetics is likely picked up from encountering the Borg. I can actually imagine a cross-party caucus emerging between the Gaeni and the Orions on augmentation research, but it wouldn't necessarily make sense for them to form their own party.

I suspect the Rigellians almost formed such a caucus, but concluded they'd have a lot more leverage as a small group of councilors voting in a block, plus I suspect some of the existing parties may have antagonized them with counter-mercantile policies.

I still think the Pacifists would just shuffle their priorities slightly and absorb what would become a Science party, if such it really were about to form. They have no strong disagreements with each other, unless I am missing something, and mostly want the same things, even if they differ a bit in which of the things they want are the most important.

All it would take is Stesk announcing that he now considers Science ultra-super-mega-awesome instead of just mega-awesome.

Something that could prevent this though is that the Gaeni could dislike the Pacifists a bit after the tantrum they threw during the Licori crisis. I have already mentioned that it would be a nice curveball if the Gaeni became a bit hawkish because of their recent experiences.
I can't see the Gaeni as members of the Pacifist Party. They're too... recklessly bold. The people who are willing to drop antimatter in cocktails to prove a point, and who don't even consider this illegal, aren't going to turn around and make opposition to warfare one of the cornerstones of their party.

On the other hand, they probably won't join the Hawks either. I honestly think that we're likely to see a three-way competition between Mercantilists (who align with the existing Institute hierarchies), Development (who appeal to the Gaeni's technocratic impulses), and Expansionist (who appeal to the Gaeni's exploratory-observer impulses). Any of them could plausibly earn seats from the Gaeni in my opinion.

The Caldonians might go Pacifist (but observe the low-order civil war they just had), and won't go Hawk- but again, they could go Development. "Science" isn't a uniquely Expansionist-aligned activity, and a lot of the best science is done in heavily funded, built-up laboratories with lots of infrastructure, the way Development likes things to be.

Actually, that would be a definite thing Starfleet (or at least Star Trek) would get involved in, even if only tangentially.
I'm not saying Starfleet wouldn't get involved, I'm saying we wouldn't know, as players, until someone tripped over the evidence. What it comes down to is that we have very limited access to, or information about, the Federation civilian economy. We only barely understand our own logistics network, let alone all the stuff that we don't own and doesn't directly affect us. If N'Gir were doing all kinds of good stuff that just doesn't directly affect us, we'd never know.



Then how did anon_user, a Cardassian, get in?
Defected, how else?
Considering they've been here longer than we've had contact with the Cardassians, that's a really good question.
Defected very quickly.
Wait, what?

Edit: What about @Leila Hann the Orion? How did she get in?
Oh, we've had Orions in Starfleet since some time last century. That's no problem.
 
I think we're going to need to gather up a fleetball and inform the Sects that they WILL be leaving the planet and they will be leaving Federation Space. No, they do not have a say in the matter save whether they leave under their own power or as space dust.

They aren't in our space. How far away from Federation space do they need to be before what they do is not our concern?
 
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