To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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Seriously though.
I'd rather not have Chen in SYO for another four years, and Ops is a great place for Chen to brush up on logistics, etc.
All of these positions have been swapped, so when will the next opportunity to move Chen be?
I'd rather not have Chen in SYO for another four years, and Ops is a great place for Chen to brush up on logistics, etc.
All of these positions have been swapped, so when will the next opportunity to move Chen be?
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And that's precisely why she wanted a break from that sort of posting, and she also wanted a shore position with a good chance of McAdams being able to get one nearby, which central theatre almost certainly isn't (Central HQ is probably Ferasa which has few Starfleet institutions yet, possibly Amarkia which would be a bit better but still no where close as good as Starfleet HQ).
His intel bonus involved shipyard and ship construction reports, not ship analysis reports. That doesn't particularly imply any knowledge about ship design, it suggests something like being able to interpret subspace comm patterns, logistic flows or unencrypted civilian communications. Maybe some of that would be relevant to shipyard operations, but nothing is particularly relevant to research and ship design (which is a very minor part of what the SDB does, despite the name). SDB is probably also tied for the VADM position where logistic knowledge is the least relevant (there isn't going to be any high rank posting where it's completely irrelevant, but keeping the various research institutes supplied with material goods is at best a minor part of what the SDB does, and probably done by a subordinate anyway). He has leadership experience, but literally every candidate does. He has zero known specific qualifications for the job in question, which makes him a worse candidate than picking some random Rear Admiral we don't know anything about, at least they might have some relevant background purely by chance.
Also he just got his current job, reassigning him shortly after the reorganization when Uhura is also being reassigned could end up undoing much of that work.
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Cards on the table, losing Chen's bonus from SYO would mean waiting an extra year on the Ambassador. It would also mean we couldn't do a dual build of the prototype. That's the big obstacle to letting her go to another post.
The next time a Vice Admiral retires, and that's hard to predict.
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Or the next time we elevate a position to VADM or otherwise create a new VADM (or ADM) slot, which we have control over.
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As I recall, Sulu's PC bonus is that he can avoid Militarization for things that normally would get it. If we're to take advantage of this, we should play more aggressively.
Did anyone else read the update in Geoege Takei's voice?
Sorry, but that's just something I made up as a hypothetical bonus for him during discussion a few months ago. Oneiros has yet to announce his actual bonus.
So this is just a thought exercise in maximizing production, but if we request an Excelsior's resources (likely cost 45 to 50 pp) in 2317.Q2 Snakepit and we are willing to fill most of our berths:
The net ships we would gain vs what I've seen planned are:
+2 Rennaisance
+2 Constellation-A
+2 Miranda-A
-2 Oberth (or -2 Constellation-A)
For the cost of ~50pp and reducing our crew surplus if we stop buying academy expansions completely. Might be something to consider. Note that we are starting Excelsiors that year so the request makes plenty of sense.
e: It also would likely be Chen's last big hurrah from her crazy bonus before she either moves up or gets moved sideways.
I am intrigued by this plan and wish to subscribe to it.
Let's check the Departments and Staff post.
*Rummaging noises*
Get those write-in pencils sharp everyone.
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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I'm pretty sure that's a leftover from Sousa, unless their bonuses are identical.
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That's correct (oops)
Hey @OneirosTheWriter could you add a profile for Certunn Guk?
I realized he's been in office as head of Starfleet Academy a long time and might make a good Vice Admiral candidate, but we don't have his traits. Here is what was said about him when we initially voted him into office back in 2304:
[ ][KEIKO] Commodore Certunn Guk
Tellarite Male, 52
Current Posting: Director of Astrosciences School, Starfleet Academy
Certunn has led his school for four years, and is a loud, outspoken advocate for the importance of technical training. Gain +.5 Starfleet Tech, +.25 Explorer Corps Tech throughput.
I realized he's been in office as head of Starfleet Academy a long time and might make a good Vice Admiral candidate, but we don't have his traits. Here is what was said about him when we initially voted him into office back in 2304:
[ ][KEIKO] Commodore Certunn Guk
Tellarite Male, 52
Current Posting: Director of Astrosciences School, Starfleet Academy
Certunn has led his school for four years, and is a loud, outspoken advocate for the importance of technical training. Gain +.5 Starfleet Tech, +.25 Explorer Corps Tech throughput.
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Man, it's been a while ... hmm.
Rule-Abiding: High
Aggression: Medium
Nerve: Low
Politics: High
Diplomacy: Medium
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Goodness gracious.So this is just a thought exercise in maximizing production, but if we request an Excelsior's resources (likely cost 45 to 50 pp) in 2317.Q2 Snakepit and we are willing to fill most of our berths:
The net ships we would gain vs what I've seen planned are:
+2 Rennaisance
+2 Constellation-A
+2 Miranda-A
-2 Oberth (or -2 Constellation-A)
For the cost of ~50pp and reducing our crew surplus if we stop buying academy expansions completely. Might be something to consider. Note that we are starting Excelsiors that year so the request makes plenty of sense.
e: It also would likely be Chen's last big hurrah from her crazy bonus before she either moves up or gets moved sideways.
Worth noting that the only reasons our heads were above the water in terms of crew were empty berths and refits. Filling the berths has us demonstrating low crew numbers again, and if we didn't have so many refits we'd be back to being utterly screwed. This seems to indicate that we haven't yet caught our crew income up to our berth list, and the idea that we might be SR limited seems much farther away, given that we start to accumulate surpluses with filled berths.
So this is just a thought exercise in maximizing production, but if we request an Excelsior's resources (likely cost 45 to 50 pp) in 2317.Q2 Snakepit and we are willing to fill most of our berths:
The net ships we would gain vs what I've seen planned are:
+2 Rennaisance
+2 Constellation-A
+2 Miranda-A
-2 Oberth (or -2 Constellation-A)
For the cost of ~50pp and reducing our crew surplus if we stop buying academy expansions completely. Might be something to consider. Note that we are starting Excelsiors that year so the request makes plenty of sense.
e: It also would likely be Chen's last big hurrah from her crazy bonus before she either moves up or gets moved sideways.
I know that mirandas have a great ressource/stat balance but they are a bit to squishy for my tastes. In any serious battle those ships will get decimated.
It should be easy to replace them with Constellations (equally squishy but more likely to be back line garrison) or trade 2 Miri for 1 Rennie with some shuffling.
e: One Rennie is overall more squishy than two Miri though.
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Yes, but that's kind of the point. They're cheap and fast to build relatively so losing one-in-ten in a big battle isn't such a blow.
We''ll see what the world looks like in 2317, I guess.
Man, I wonder when someone will come up through the ranks who will finally put that Starfleet-FDS rivalry to rest... maybe one of the captains of Kahurangi's tenure, I suppose, like Eaton. The older folk (Kahurangi excepted, somehow) all seem to treat the FDS as an enemy.
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not sure this is the best plan or not but
[X][TAC] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Sirvk
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
[X][COS] Rear Admiral T'Lam
also would not mind more more promotion all around?
ps can we like start expanding star-fleet academy to like more then just earth
or did that already happen?
[X][TAC] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Sirvk
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
[X][COS] Rear Admiral T'Lam
also would not mind more more promotion all around?
ps can we like start expanding star-fleet academy to like more then just earth
or did that already happen?
[X][TAC] Rear Admiral Pathe Lathriss
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Sirvk
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
I am a little worried about Uhura as Chief of Staff, but the only other logical place for her is Tactical and it seems we won't get the opportunity to promote Lathriss otherwise. He's politically shaky and most Vice Admiral positions are highly political.
I think Eaton needs some time. Rear Admiral is the last rank that actually commands ships, but there are plenty of administrative positions there too. We rush her, she ends up disqualified from task force command entirely. Maybe that's fine, maybe it isn't. I don't think her career will be hurt if it's delayed. If anything, I'd expect her to wind up in something incredibly prestigious as Rear Admiral, like Sol Sector Command.
e: In fact, Sol Sector Command is exactly what I'd recommend for her.
[X][SDB] Rear Admiral Sirvk
[X][OPS] Vice Admiral Shey ch'Tharvasse
[X][COS] Vice Admiral Nyota Uhura
[X][SYO] Vice Admiral Patricia Chen
I am a little worried about Uhura as Chief of Staff, but the only other logical place for her is Tactical and it seems we won't get the opportunity to promote Lathriss otherwise. He's politically shaky and most Vice Admiral positions are highly political.
I think Eaton needs some time. Rear Admiral is the last rank that actually commands ships, but there are plenty of administrative positions there too. We rush her, she ends up disqualified from task force command entirely. Maybe that's fine, maybe it isn't. I don't think her career will be hurt if it's delayed. If anything, I'd expect her to wind up in something incredibly prestigious as Rear Admiral, like Sol Sector Command.
e: In fact, Sol Sector Command is exactly what I'd recommend for her.
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