To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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This is all classified at the highest Federation levels. There will be no public acknowledgment of any of the actions here.
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No, but the name can be proposed anonymuously and accepted.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
I'm of the opinion that it should take a lot more than a single badass and ludicrously classified event for a ship to qualify for retaining its registry number across different incarnations. It's clear from this very arc that it wasn't until the 1701 that the weight of deeds performed by the Enterprise and her crew warranted special considerations.
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"On Stardate Blahblah Captain Maria Volkov and her crew fought in a classified action and were responsible for defeating a threat of Federation-wide scope and extreme danger. The Lion's victory was in accord with the finest traditions of Starfleet. " - Federation Presidential Unit Citation, Christopher Pike Medal of Valor citation, etc.
Also the justification for Lion-B.
It's perfectly fine if people know something happened. As long as they don't know what.
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I was referring to Mrr'shan.
Enterprise and Sarek are finishing their FYMs the end of this year.
(It's only 2315 Q2M2)
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ask and ye shall be answered!
it's called a punch out, not a punch up.
ExplBean
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And that would be why I couldn't find it! Thank you very much.
The only small issue is it makes every member of that crew targets for nefarious folk who want to figure out what the Federation is up to, whereas with no public announcement there is no impetus to go after them.
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Say, the Cardassians had an intelligence report that said they were confused about why the Federation had added a fifth member instead of keeping the four founders as 'lords of the quadrant' or whatever, with as many new members have been added or are waiting on the moratorium to join, do you think they're even more confused or have decided the Federation is so scared of them they're going full-on 'Assimilate everybody!' to stay on relatively even footing with their counterparts?
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You say that like the crew of Lion wouldn't be targets for those people anyways considering her loss to temporal anomalies is a known fact to everyone by now, so her return would provoke the exact same thing.
This way, at least, we could kick out some kind of false cover stories, rather than attempting a full information lockdown, which we as the Federation are exceptionally bad at.
(I mean Christ by this point if the news hasn't gotten out that Enterprise and Nash are missing and there's a temporal anomaly where they were last seen I will be shocked.)
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I would disagree that we aren't good at full lockdown. We seem to be exceptionally good at it.
For most polities a temporal anomaly is just a ship eater. I don't see why it would gather more interest than any given anomaly we encounter. It's simply not something most people would concern themselves with.
The Lion is a ship that mysteriously disappeared and now reappeared (anomalies are real, but that just makes them good cover stories). In Cardassian (or Romulan), that means 'some kind of black ops project'. Interrogating people from the Lion is already on their to do list from the second they reappear.
In Lecarre it probably means 'some kind of quadruple bluff, who will even believe that Starfleet ever tells anybody the REAL positions of their ships?'.
pheonix89
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Starfleet has three long term infosec security settings.
None, maximum, and blacker than black hole.
We're VERY good at hiding things that we think need to be hidden, it's just that we don't hide much.
ExplBean
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I'd be willing to wager that from the outside it looks like anti-Licori black ops in fact, from well before war was declared. Starfleet is just that good at realpolitik- no such thing as coincidences after all! The Preservers don't play dice with the universe!
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And Lion came back, from the past, or the future, after doing Q knows what. That alone would set every marginally competent intelligence agency in the quadrant trying to find out what happened because weaponized time travel even by accident is terrifying. Assuming, as pointed out, that anyone actually believes Lion was in fact eaten by an anomaly rather than engaged in a long-term black op against Q knows who doing Q knows what.
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Best cover story; the lion just got sent a few years into the future.
Asuming it doesn't sacrifice itself to take out Betarre, of course.
Asuming it doesn't sacrifice itself to take out Betarre, of course.
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We lost a pre-refit Miranda in the Licori war. Well, here is a replacement vessel, ripe for refit.
Technically it'd be Lion-A first
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Technically it'd be Lion-A first
Got to skip a letter as an honorary Enterprise, to keep up with big sis.
Not really. For most people this is the outcome of the cosmic dice. It's only significant from our point of view.
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Well, the tacit 'rule' regarding second five year missions is "if you want a second five year mission, you've got to save the Federation. Want a third? You'd better save the Federation twice."
Lion having saved the Federation means that Captain Volkov, personally, is qualified for a second five year mission. Unofficially.
Leslie:
"On top of the fact that they reinvented Irish stand-down, the Tellarites used to have an advanced tradition of insult swordfighting. I'm no brawler these days, but knowing the insult katas helps keep the sawed-off little bastards off balance. Don't cross Tellar's heliopause without 'em."
I'm not sure we'd be doing Samhaya Mrr'shan a favor by giving her a second five-year mission. She clearly loves her job, but it's not the only job she loves. Part of the reason Nash and Straak were kept on for a second mission is because it's hard to imagine them being happy in the positions we'd promote them to. Nash is having to adapt quite a bit, and Straak... well. Rocks.
But Sam would do just as well as a flag officer as Eaton, T'Lorel, and Thuir have, so I don't want to hold her back just for continuity aboard Enterprise.
I dunno. The communications equipment between Enterprise and Starfleet Command is probably very secure, and the general public doesn't get constant contact with explorers in the field. If the ship doesn't report back for a day or two, that doesn't mean the general public is aware, ESPECIALLY if Starfleet has a reason to keep a secret about what's going on.
I suspect that from the point of view of the outside galaxy, the T'Mir "disappeared" for several years and Starfleet was very reticent about what she was doing.
That said, we actually did say the Lion was missing in action, so people may believe that the ship got swallowed up in a temporal anomaly and spat out five years later. That kind of thing happens often enough in Star Trek that it would hardly be unreasonable for people to know or at least speculate about it.