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so are the official roll in then? how fucked are we?
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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Did it involve a Dawiar visitor?
Theunderbolt
"Prepare for trouble..."
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Honestly? When I think 'Gaeni Tech-Warriors,' I think Skitarii.
"The Warp core is failing! Oh, Spi-"
[shoved aside by Gaeni scientist.]
"You Federation Engineers with your rules and regulations! Brothers let us begin the Rights of Renewal!"
[The Gaenei begin to chant while their leaders smacks the warp core with a wrench.]
"You idiots stop bang--"
[Suddenly the Warp Core realigns and the day is saved.]
"How?!"
[Gaeni smugness intensifies.]
We know that the rolls are made, and that the results are so disgustingly bad, that they may get re-rolled out of pity (but probably won't - the QM is a little sadistic).
I don't expect to see the logs start appearing until tomorrow (Australian time), as the QM has dental surgery - and do you want logs done on strong pain killers? Do you?
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We do know that TF6 (the Ganei) intercepted the bulk of the surviving Arcadian Frigates, rolled poorly for how many ships would actually present at the battle, but still annihilated the three Frigates present.
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That, and Klingons. One of the shared features between the species.
Actually though, it's the Caldonians who have the "Science Cults" where they actually tip over into worshiping Science.
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do you want logs done on strong pain killers? Do you?
maybe? could be better!
We do know that TF6 (the Ganei) intercepted the bulk of the surviving Arcadian Frigates, rolled poorly for how many ships would actually present at the battle, but still annihilated the three Frigates present.[/QUOTE]
so hurt bad but killed everything they should have.
yay more things on the list of shit too repair
so how many ships do we have now that need fixing and how bad are our crew/officers training V crew/officers needs? i am going with somewhere between bad and horrible
maybe? could be better!
We do know that TF6 (the Ganei) intercepted the bulk of the surviving Arcadian Frigates, rolled poorly for how many ships would actually present at the battle, but still annihilated the three Frigates present.[/QUOTE]
so hurt bad but killed everything they should have.
yay more things on the list of shit too repair
so how many ships do we have now that need fixing and how bad are our crew/officers training V crew/officers needs? i am going with somewhere between bad and horrible
Actually they won without a scratch.
They use anti-matter coffee instead of deuterium.
Works wonders (until it doesn't - then we see why the Gaeni designs have a lower reliability ....)
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To be fair, they had a very large initial advantage in depth of shielding: 120 to 70. This was compounded by a 20-point critical hit, some subsystems being knocked out in ways that seem to have incapacitated enemy ships, and so on.
Although honestly, I'd be very interested to see what the mechanical benefits of "Tech-Ship Doctrine" are. I suspect they revolve around shield penetration, critical hit chance, and subsystem damage, and those are things that synergize very well.
Although honestly, I'd be very interested to see what the mechanical benefits of "Tech-Ship Doctrine" are. I suspect they revolve around shield penetration, critical hit chance, and subsystem damage, and those are things that synergize very well.
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We got somewhat lucky in that one ship lost it's weapons then soon after it's power and another lost it's sensors. But all died barely damaging the ships with only shield damage being done.
Three separate benefits related to combat seem like an awful lot compared to the other fleet design doctrines. I bet it's just the shield penetration we've already been told about, and the other benefits are design/political/response related (more in line with other doctrines).
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I suppose that's possible. Then again, "Tech-Ship Doctrine" may supplant some of the other doctrine options for a small NPC like the Gaeni or Licori.
Or, alternatively, Tech-Ship Doctrine could be unbalanced in combat. It wouldn't be the strangest thing ever.
Or, alternatively, Tech-Ship Doctrine could be unbalanced in combat. It wouldn't be the strangest thing ever.
Everything added up, but the subsystem damage was at least as good as the crit. All three of the enemies had their weapons knocked once and one lost power which seemed to involve also losing shields until power is restored. It blew up before that happened.
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
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I feel like tech ship doctrine increases the chances of both a critical success and critical failure for science tests. Either your techs develop some fancy new untested gadget that perfectly solves your problem, or your techs develop some fancy new untested gadget that reverses causality so your ship never existed in the first place. No middle ground.
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Hm. Were the Gaeni knocking out subsystems significantly more often than we do? That would strongly indicate that tech-ship doctrine increases the rate of subsystem failures.
Do we have a log for the TF6 battle against the third Goliath platform at Gammon? That would add more data to the pile.
We do have a log. Mobile or I'd link it direct but go to the last snake pit, it's linked there.
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I was referring to the 90s, and the Rodgers Admiralty, and the backlash that presumably saw some ships decommissioned.
Well, they don't need to be in great condition. Those probably will get "converted" to simulator ships, where converted is defined as stripping out all of the consoles and a lot of the systems.
^This
Well, there are holodecks. The problem is that holodecks are in the early stages.
*scribbles down omake idea*
Hmm. That's another idea.
Wait, is hull damage a requirement for subsystem damage? If so, then the higher penetration rate means that they will naturally get more subsystem damage in.
lbmaian
a thirsty squirrel
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If training ships ever become reified in the game later, such that we're occasionally requested to retire one of the T0+ gen ships (aka the ships we actually build) for Academy training usage, then we can use the excuse of advancing training simulator technology and later holodeck technology to help explain the lack of needing to do so for more than a decade (start of the game).
That is, even with Academy enrollment increasing by 300% since 2300, the current (and unknown) fleet of training ships suffices because of such advancing simulation tech, with the training ships perhaps being reserved for class seniors or the equivalent of starship operation final exams.
The other excuse being that we got a surplus of old ships in the post-Khitomer and post-Rogers demilitarization.
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That last seems overwhelmingly likely. For example, I'm pretty sure Starfleet must have had a TOS-era frigate (that is, a 2260-era design, predating the Miranda but postdating the Soyuz). We have none of those ships in service, which suggests they were decommissioned. Some of them may be kicking around as training ships. Likewise for whatever ship filled the general purpose 'cruiser' niche in the 2260s, assuming Starfleet had a generalist ship smaller than a Connie in the first place. This would be the ship the Constellation replaced in service, more or less.
Quick scan through log
4 Tech-Cruisers and 3 Tech-Frigates against the third Goliath and a Weapon Platform
Gaeni fired 163 times.
9 shield-burn throughs
1 sub-system (sensors) hit.
If there was more, my quick scan missed it.