Doesn't this kind of put them in a place where they could throw a coup and go maximum extremist?

Except for the fact that our remaining ships committed to the theater could beat the House Kortonnen fleet like a drum made of red-headed stepchildren, and that's before they lose ships overcoming remaining Imperial and Tartesis fleets who would fight them on the coup.
 
Doesn't this kind of put them in a place where they could throw a coup and go maximum extremist?
In one of the last interludes someone was visiting a certain moon with a superweapon. Wasn't that in the system where Gammon is? If so - after Ixiria, they know they are next.
 
I do find it interesting that all houses except for Kortennon had ships in this task force, including the Ixira. Though for most since they were disabled (except the Bene cruiser) we can hold them unitl after the war and return them depending on the peace settlement. Still
2 Explorer-both disabled
5 Cruisers-3 of 5 disabled/destroyed
20 Escorts- 4 disabled
So they have 2 Cruisers and 8-16 escorts (we were given a range of 12-20)

Liberty (Earth Excelsior) took damage, Earth Centaur-A was lost and two tellarite ships were disabled (loss of 1 officer point).

Can disabled ships be repaired or do we just get surviving crew?
 
I do find it interesting that all houses except for Kortennon had ships in this task force, including the Ixira. Though for most since they were disabled (except the Bene cruiser) we can hold them unitl after the war and return them depending on the peace settlement. Still
2 Explorer-both disabled
5 Cruisers-3 of 5 disabled/destroyed
20 Escorts- 4 disabled
So they have 2 Cruisers and 8-16 escorts (we were given a range of 12-20)

Liberty (Earth Excelsior) took damage, Earth Centaur-A was lost and two tellarite ships were disabled (loss of 1 officer point).

Can disabled ships be repaired or do we just get surviving crew?

Kortennon probably refused or was allowed to avoid committing ships because TF3 is directly threatening Gammon. It's a sensible military precaution, if you didn't account for Nash ka'Sharren.

e: Or if we're paranoid, their ships were ordered out by the head of house and are massing in secret to coup the Emperor after having anticipated exactly this.
 
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"We've taken too many losses, we'll propably need to pull back before the Imperial Fleet gets here, we can't take them."
"Wait, the fuck just happened!?"
"Lol, never mind. They ran into Nash."

*snerk*
 
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Turn 288 - Critical Hit! Ship USS Enterprise on AHS Pride (Tartresis)
Damage roll - Hitpower 27.48 vs Shields 0.28
Ship AHS Pride (Tartresis) Shields reduced to 0.00
Ship AHS Pride (Tartresis) has lost shields.
Ship AHS Pride (Tartresis) reduced to 0 Hp!
Ship 2 has taken casualties: 2/0/0 out of 3/4/2
The AHS Pride (Tartresis) has suffered sub-system damage: Shield knocked out! 20 turns to repair.
The AHS Pride (Tartresis) has been disabled.

The Tartresis cruiser was kicking ass, and then.... The Arcadians really paid for their low hull values here.
 
Our win condition is not the toppling of the Imperial House.
It is a treaty that prevents further Mentat dickery.

Yeah, and regretfully, this is going to be a tough goal to achieve, because we would need not only assurances that they won't start up a mentat program somewhere but the certainty that they won't.
That means, probably? observers at the very least, but it would be difficult to ensure the observers will be given enough power and mobility to serve on their task.
Practically, we might end up having to dismantle their State and rebuild it from ground up, and that could be very expensive
 
So the three from Nash's task force that were disabled/destroyed were all Miranda-A. I have marked them down as losses unless told otherwise.

Can the winning side take their disabled ships in for repair?
 
Commendation to the Hawking, it aced the Scouting phase, which gave us an advantage into the Skirmish phase. We got our butts kicked in the Skirmish and Vanguard phases due to being outnumbered 2:1 but that eroded away the Hawking's advantage rather than digging us deeper into a hole.
 
So the three from Nash's task force that were disabled/destroyed were all Miranda-A. I have marked them down as losses unless told otherwise.

Can the winning side take their disabled ships in for repair?
Disabled ships are 12month repair jobs, and tend to be expensive. But yes, they can be repaired. I'm assuming no one wants to scrap these ships.
 
Well, Romulan honor apparently has a very consequentialist bent to it, so their doctrine is probably a bit flexible. And besides, I thought cloak-based alpha strikes were what they usually tried in the show? Or do I have STO confused with canon?
No, there's canon support. Basically the first thing we see a Romulan ship doing in the entire canon is uncloaking to give Enterprise a duck's-eye-view of a shotgun blast. Note, that's not the Romulan ship on fire. That's the weapon it just shot at Enterprise.

That said, trolling your enemy into flying through a massive minefield is even MORE Romulan than uncloaking for a massive first strike. In my opinion.

More mines!!! especially for Gabriel Expanse, actually funny enough they would work well enough to defend our system by destroying or slowing down warships midway giving our version of the Iron Hail and some long range starship to forced them to hit our mines as they try to dodge it. Also frees up starships to for attack elsewhere and give us time to expand.
We don't normally use starships to hold fixed defensive locations. Also, we can't use mines to interdict the whole system. That's a completely different order of problem than just wrapping individual planets with minefields you have to cross to get into effective weapons range of them, which is bad enough already from a practical point of view. Plus, an installation like Iron Hail is going to be very expensive.

Also we can randomly laid mines on important unclaimed systems as a way to denial survey or use of the system for a time being. Love to ambush some of their surveyors.
What if "they" turns out to be a Caitian ship that didn't update its charts? What if "they" turns out to be a totally unknown neutral species?

Say did we get any engineers loot any of their stuff?
Given how fast our ships have been jumping around, I doubt we were in a position to capture very much equipment.

Well that's a worst case scenario for splitting...

Okay *rubs temples* alright, given the way this is split, I'm going to fall back on the commander qualities - The Ked Paddah Admiral is more likely to favour the approach of leaving a ship to protect orbit and not overextending - just attack the Iron Hail. So we'll go with that option.
That is an extremely good way for you to handle this kind of thing. Yaaay!

Way to go Excelsior. First shot on the station deals a critical hit and depletes 50% of shields in one go. The station was at 20% shields before it even got to fire a shot.
Excelsior:

"Oh my."

[smiles slightly]

What just happened?!
It would seem that Nash kicked all the ass, but that the member world ships attached to her task force took a beating in the process.
 
Except for the fact that our remaining ships committed to the theater could beat the House Kortonnen fleet like a drum made of red-headed stepchildren, and that's before they lose ships overcoming remaining Imperial and Tartesis fleets who would fight them on the coup.
Oh god, that's horrible, why am I laughing.
"This version of The Drumhead is way different than what I remember"
 
Not our call. None of them are Starfleet ships.
It would be our call to scrap them in place, or to tow the damages hulls and assorted ship bits back to the edge of the Federation logistical network.

If we were pushing forward, or wanting to outrun other fleets, we might have to make that call, but right now, we can withdraw.
 
USS Enterprise - Combat 10.00/10, Shield 40.75/100, Hull 70.00/70 - Crew 6-5-5/6-5-5 - Enemies killed: 3 - Status:
Fired: 29, Fired On: 22, Hits Received: 21, Damage Dealt: 231.80
EDIT: No, wait, the Enterprise showed up with reinforcements and basically cleave and smote the reinforcements, crushing all of their cruiserweights and only taking a few disabled escorts in turn.
So their fleet was at Gammon and ran straight to Ixaria, running into TF2 and Enterprise? Nice!
Knock Knock, it's the Motherfucking Enterprise
Holy crap, Enterprise.



Klingons & Romulans: We changed our minds. This is why we haven't started shit with the Federation for two centuries.

"Here is are our imperial flagships, crewed by only the finest of our crewmen, truely an Elite fighting unit--"

"Sup, Commodore Nash here. Wanna see what a real Elite ship looks like? Look quick, now your fleet is burning."



@Leila Hann, we need you!

yeah, Kortennon basically walked away from this as the most powerful House there is, they didn't lose a single important asset, and they were the most belligerent to begin with if I recall the profiles correctly, and had the most Mentats that were actually focused on making superweapons instead of pure research stuff that just coincidentally made them horrifing superscience monstrosities.

Meanwhile, all of their rivals have just gotten their legs cut out at no cost to themselves.

Well, shit!


That was amazing.
 
The being able to repair disabled ships is also important for causes were we disable enemy ships but have to withdraw (as opposed to when they withdraw). As those can come back. I am going to go and put the 2 tellarite Mirands under repair.
 
just to make sure I understand what happened. while task force 1 was dealing with iron hail, the reinforcement fleet showed up and tried to defat us in detail by attacking task force 2. Not sure how they avoided giving us even a few hours warning, but a menat did it would be perfectly in line with what we've seen so far. Then the enterprise kind of killed most of them.

good lord, captin Mrr'shan is deadly in a brawl. Personally I'm fluffing that fight as in the initial calash the enterprise managed to lose itself in the sea of exotic particles the various research stations flooded the system with, and then charged right into the heart of the enemy fleet somehow avoiding the vast majority of incoming fire while disrupting the enemies formation. Or something else suitable insane because she did almost as much damage as everyone else combined.
 
just to make sure I understand what happened. while task force 1 was dealing with iron hail, the reinforcement fleet showed up and tried to defat us in detail by attacking task force 2. Not sure how they avoided giving us even a few hours warning, but a menat did it would be perfectly in line with what we've seen so far. Then the enterprise kind of killed most of them.

good lord, captin Mrr'shan is deadly in a brawl. Personally I'm fluffing that fight as in the initial calash the enterprise managed to lose itself in the sea of exotic particles the various research stations flooded the system with, and then charged right into the heart of the enemy fleet somehow avoiding the vast majority of incoming fire while disrupting the enemies formation. Or something else suitable insane because she did almost as much damage as everyone else combined.

Uh, not quite. It looks like Task Force 2 ambushed the reinforcements on their way to Ixaria System. Pretty sure the fight did not take place in Ixaria System, because the Imperial Fleet did not benefit from any research stations.
 
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