- Location
- Wörms, the half continent
tbh there are even larger ships than Federation ones around by that point, the Federation just doesn't build up to that size, presumably for doctrinal reasons.
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Alternate designs that never could...
Here is an alternate layout Sagamartha that has slightly more internal volume despite being a half saucer by using a ring structure, short inline secondary hull, and BOTH a top AND bottom offset hull.
This idea is that this is an alternate universe Terran Empire pure dreadnaught Sagamartha. It sacrifices science labs in favor of the ability to mount 6 impulse 2 thrusters giving it absurd maneuverability for a craft of it's size. It forgoes aft armament almost entirely in favor of 12 saucer and ring structure mounted forward facing phasors matched with an overwhelming three forward photon torpedo tubes.
This ship serves as a hunter killer. It's goal is to pick a target in an engagement and to ruthlessly remove it as quickly as possible.
I call it the Mariana class.
Length 187 Meters
Beam 158.375 Meters
Height 75.75 Meters
Mass 469,800 tons
16 decks
22 officers, 126 enlisted, 200 marines
Type 1 deflector shields
12 type 1 phasors
3 type 1 photon torpedo tubes
While the Thunderlord and Dagger class warships had won the Vulcan War for the Terran Empire, and the Drake class ruthlessly enforced Imperial Order over all the world in the newly expanded Terran Empire, a new class of ship was required to expand beyond the boundaries of the Empire and it's new vassals.
Thus the Mariana was conceived. This ship could deliver the iron fist of Empire to further reaches than had ever been dreamed. None would stand in the way of Imperial manifest destiny.
Such a vessel was beyond expensive even for the Empire to construct. It would have been completely out of a lesser society's reach due to it's sheer cost. It was only through the Terran Empire's ability to ruthlessly work countless millions of thralls to death in it's mines and foundries that such an image of power could grace the stars.
EDIT - If someone who understands the math better than me wants to chime in with this absurd thing's combat statistics I would love to include them. I just have no idea how the math works
EDIT 2 - I remembered that we turned down the option of supplemental deflectors and realizing that it occurred to me that this is obviously the option the Terran Empire took and is now a key design choice.
EDIT 3 - I realized it required a name change. Now the Mariana, with sister ships Tonga, Philippine, Kuril–Kamchatka, and Kermadec.
Here is an alternate layout Sagamartha that has slightly more internal volume despite being a half saucer by using a ring structure, short inline secondary hull, and BOTH a top AND bottom offset hull.
This idea is that this is an alternate universe Terran Empire pure dreadnaught Sagamartha. It sacrifices science labs in favor of the ability to mount 6 impulse 2 thrusters giving it absurd maneuverability for a craft of it's size. It forgoes aft armament almost entirely in favor of 12 saucer and ring structure mounted forward facing phasors matched with an overwhelming three forward photon torpedo tubes.
This ship serves as a hunter killer. It's goal is to pick a target in an engagement and to ruthlessly remove it as quickly as possible.
I call it the Mariana class.
Length 187 Meters
Beam 158.375 Meters
Height 75.75 Meters
Mass 469,800 tons
16 decks
22 officers, 126 enlisted, 200 marines
Type 1 deflector shields
12 type 1 phasors
3 type 1 photon torpedo tubes
While the Thunderlord and Dagger class warships had won the Vulcan War for the Terran Empire, and the Drake class ruthlessly enforced Imperial Order over all the world in the newly expanded Terran Empire, a new class of ship was required to expand beyond the boundaries of the Empire and it's new vassals.
Thus the Mariana was conceived. This ship could deliver the iron fist of Empire to further reaches than had ever been dreamed. None would stand in the way of Imperial manifest destiny.
Such a vessel was beyond expensive even for the Empire to construct. It would have been completely out of a lesser society's reach due to it's sheer cost. It was only through the Terran Empire's ability to ruthlessly work countless millions of thralls to death in it's mines and foundries that such an image of power could grace the stars.
EDIT - If someone who understands the math better than me wants to chime in with this absurd thing's combat statistics I would love to include them. I just have no idea how the math works
EDIT 2 - I remembered that we turned down the option of supplemental deflectors and realizing that it occurred to me that this is obviously the option the Terran Empire took and is now a key design choice.
EDIT 3 - I realized it required a name change. Now the Mariana, with sister ships Tonga, Philippine, Kuril–Kamchatka, and Kermadec.
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Strunkriidiisk
THE LEGEND
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Speaking of memes, I realized my scaling was off on the Cali-Saga image. In fact you could hide the Saga behind one side-to-side with just the very tips of the nacelles and leading ventral edge of the engineering hull poking out. Image has been edited for accuracy.
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When we have to make a dedicated warship class again i want to name them for rude gestures for 3 reasons.
1 - for some reason you discarded diplomatic options and thats a bad idea so when you see one them that point is made clearly.
2- rude gestures are not a human only thing so is open to all races.
3- i just want the official names to be pictograms.
1 - for some reason you discarded diplomatic options and thats a bad idea so when you see one them that point is made clearly.
2- rude gestures are not a human only thing so is open to all races.
3- i just want the official names to be pictograms.
- Location
- California
We already know the Terran Empire is evil, you don't need to prove it by subjecting the thread to their designs.
Ah yes the day the Dominion came to know of the power of the UFS Middle Finger.
Our mirror universe counterparts get to do mushrooms at work? No fair.Alternate designs that never could...
Here is an alternate layout Sagamartha that has slightly more internal volume despite being a half saucer by using a ring structure, short inline secondary hull, and BOTH a top AND bottom offset hull.
This idea is that this is an alternate universe Terran Empire pure dreadnaught Sagamartha. It sacrifices science labs in favor of the ability to mount 6 impulse 2 thrusters giving it absurd maneuverability for a craft of it's size. It forgoes aft armament almost entirely in favor of 12 saucer and ring structure mounted forward facing phasors matched with an overwhelming three forward photon torpedo tubes.
This ship serves as a hunter killer. It's goal is to pick a target in an engagement and to ruthlessly remove it as quickly as possible.
I call it the Mariana class.
Length 187 Meters
Beam 158.375 Meters
Height 75.75 Meters
Mass 469,800 tons
16 decks
22 officers, 126 enlisted, 200 marines
Type 1 deflector shields
12 type 1 phasors
3 type 1 photon torpedo tubes
While the Thunderlord and Dagger class warships had won the Vulcan War for the Terran Empire, and the Drake class ruthlessly enforced Imperial Order over all the world in the newly expanded Terran Empire, a new class of ship was required to expand beyond the boundaries of the Empire and it's new vassals.
Thus the Mariana was conceived. This ship could deliver the iron fist of Empire to further reaches than had ever been dreamed. None would stand in the way of Imperial manifest destiny.
Such a vessel was beyond expensive even for the Empire to construct. It would have been completely out of a lesser society's reach due to it's sheer cost. It was only through the Terran Empire's ability to ruthlessly work countless millions of thralls to death in it's mines and foundries that such an image of power could grace the stars.
EDIT - If someone who understands the math better than me wants to chime in with this absurd thing's combat statistics I would love to include them. I just have no idea how the math works
EDIT 2 - I remembered that we turned down the option of supplemental deflectors and realizing that it occurred to me that this is obviously the option the Terran Empire took and is now a key design choice.
EDIT 3 - I realized it required a name change. Now the Mariana, with sister ships Tonga, Philippine, Kuril–Kamchatka, and Kermadec.
Their fascists, they need thr mushrooms to weaken their inherent Woderwaff addiction.
TheShadowDeamon
Mighty Dragon
Look on the bright side... This is the Terran Empire version of the CuriosityWe already know the Terran Empire is evil, you don't need to prove it by subjecting the thread to their designs.
I think the negaverse players are drinking heavily. (The negaverse is an autocracy. I am the only player!)
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StriderInCosmos
Wanderer in the Worldsea
- Location
- Somewhere in... Terminal Dogma? I think?
I have to admit, some aspects of the 'Terran Empire' ships might be interesting to see implemented on our ships. In moderation, of course. Specifically the curved nacelle struts and the Mariana's over-under secondary hulls.
Look on the bright side... This is the Terran Empire version of the Curiosity
I think the negaverse players are drinking heavily.
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Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Not gonna lie... I don't hate it.
- Location
- Most likely California
…I don't get it. Are there two perpendicular saucers for some reason, or is the cylinder the primary hull, and what saucers are just overbuilt Connecting arms to the nacelles ring?
I honestly don't even know. I was just messing around with shapes and radial rather than bilateral symmetry. I haven't even give it a once over to round off the edges and make it look nice. This was really intended as a 10 minute project brick joke than anything else.
I do think I was thinking "DOUBLE SAUCERS!" at some point in the design process, but they really don't come off as very saucery with that big central shaft.
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KlavoHunter
THOU SHALT WORSHIP NO GODS ABOVE ENTERPRISE!
And yet a vessel that big STILL has a hallway of communal bunks for the enlisted crew... 🤢
It's the empire, the bunks are next to the warp core so the Imperial starfleet doesn't need to pay pensions when they retire.
- Location
- America
The negaverse SDB thread would absolutely choose much more chunni names for these ships. Like Death Eater or Soul Drinker or whatever
Strunkriidiisk
THE LEGEND
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[Looks at the tallies] Based on the runner-up options for the Curiosity spaceframe, the mirror!Curiosity is probably a sphere with vertical-orientation nacelles.Look on the bright side... This is the Terran Empire version of the Curiosity
I think the negaverse players are drinking heavily. (The negaverse is an autocracy. I am the only player!)
- Location
- Most likely California
It would actually be interesting to compare our designed ships to theoretical versions where we made all the opposite design choices.[Looks at the tallies] Based on the runner-up options for the Curiosity spaceframe, the mirror!Curiosity is probably a sphere with vertical-orientation nacelles.
Strunkriidiisk
THE LEGEND
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Mirror!Cygnus: full saucer, sprinter config.
Mirror!Thunderchild: half-saucer, offset secondary hull, quad-nacelle arrangement.
Skate's development was so heavily influenced by the light arrowhead hull it's actually difficult to say what an alternate version would have looked like beyond a half-saucer.
Mirror!Thunderchild: half-saucer, offset secondary hull, quad-nacelle arrangement.
Skate's development was so heavily influenced by the light arrowhead hull it's actually difficult to say what an alternate version would have looked like beyond a half-saucer.
