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- California
[ ] Frontier (Cargo, Evacuation, Medical)
[ ] Exploration (Pathfinding, Scanners, Analysis)
Since we already have logi ship and a survey ship I'd say these are the most sensible options to pick.
[ ] Exploration (Pathfinding, Scanners, Analysis)
Since we already have logi ship and a survey ship I'd say these are the most sensible options to pick.
I was just looking at that, actually. Cargo has kind of become a seperate stat with some minor engineering implications, and I'm almost of a mind to sever them from each other in the entirety.
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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Frontier or Support seem the most beneficial. Starfleet is going to be rebuilding and fortifying for a long while. Serving the frontier and supporting other operations seem in line with these needs.
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I'm inclined to say Frontier. We apparently have badly overextended lately, and helping out with getting everything back up to par sounds like a good peacetime mission for this design. Alternately, we could simply double down on the ship's primary duty by choosing Support, thereby even further improving the Federation's ability to act as a force multiplier for it's task force.
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Putting my vote down for support. I don't think we've had dedicated combat support before? At least not on this level. A really bulky supply heavy brawler that can keep other ships in good condition sounds like a great lynchpin.
As an aside, I really feel like we're missing dedicated combat support modules. Combat computing and e-war suites and the like. Like even when making pure combat ships it always comes down to utility picks instead of more combat options.
As an aside, I really feel like we're missing dedicated combat support modules. Combat computing and e-war suites and the like. Like even when making pure combat ships it always comes down to utility picks instead of more combat options.
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- SEAsia
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Considering we're potentially naming this as the Federation class, Frontier seems most fitting, namesake-wise.
Doesn't matter if you're stationed on a 5-person listening post with one outhouse, or starting a brand new life on an entire, budding colonized world with a thousand homesteads, the Federation will come to your aid, cosmic rain or supernova shine.
Doesn't matter if you're stationed on a 5-person listening post with one outhouse, or starting a brand new life on an entire, budding colonized world with a thousand homesteads, the Federation will come to your aid, cosmic rain or supernova shine.
TheShadowDeamon
Mighty Dragon
[ ] Frontier (Cargo, Evacuation, Medical)
[ ] Survey (Geology, Biology, Prospecting)
Given what it'll be doing and where it'll be, these seem like the 2 most useful.
[ ] Survey (Geology, Biology, Prospecting)
Given what it'll be doing and where it'll be, these seem like the 2 most useful.
Frontier and Exploration look like the best.
For Frontier there has been a long argument for a what's basically a field hospital ship on the fleet this is a good shot to cover the need.
Exploration maximises the roaming nature and autonomy. It will allow a extensive mapping of our borders and serve has surveyors to point places of interest for our future Exploration vessel or dedicated science vessels.
For Frontier there has been a long argument for a what's basically a field hospital ship on the fleet this is a good shot to cover the need.
Exploration maximises the roaming nature and autonomy. It will allow a extensive mapping of our borders and serve has surveyors to point places of interest for our future Exploration vessel or dedicated science vessels.
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Exploration would make us look like absolute chumps for not taking the spectral analysis last time. It's also, frankly, just not the priority for Starfleet right now. Tragically. I think, given our next design is expected to be The Explorer, we can put it off.
Survey is a thing we can always use more of but also just built an entire class for, and is also the role of sitting still rather than cruising, and this thing really ought to be cruising to shine.
Frontier and Support both seem like good choices.
Survey is a thing we can always use more of but also just built an entire class for, and is also the role of sitting still rather than cruising, and this thing really ought to be cruising to shine.
Frontier and Support both seem like good choices.
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I am going to push support. This is a thing we have not had in a starship so far. It will help the frontier by helping other ships stay out there longer. It itself will be able to stay out there longer. We can turn this ship into a mother ship for all the Mirandas running around and help maximize their usefulness.
It's also going to have an enduring usefulness because even when the Federation isn't the strongest ship in the fleet it can still act as a support ship doing repairs.
Just having the cargo hold and the speed it does means it's going to do frontier just fine anyway.
It's also going to have an enduring usefulness because even when the Federation isn't the strongest ship in the fleet it can still act as a support ship doing repairs.
Just having the cargo hold and the speed it does means it's going to do frontier just fine anyway.
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Something to keep in mind, these aren't hard lock-ins. What we can access will be based on popularity, it's highly possible we'll have access to a rather wide range of modules.
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Actually, @Sayle does SV support ranked choice voting (us putting in a number for preference)?
I don't think so.
Both your choices thus far (and thus what you'll be throwing your chips behind when it comes time to vote) haven't been the mothership choices.Yay someone remembered me wanting to make the federation a mothership
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Ah, shame, it'd make this a bit easier.
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I like to talk about other options then pile behind the popular choices.
Also, relating to our 'how big is the Federation' talk from last night, at the present rate of expansion we should be at least 1,000ly by ~2295, since 1/2 of that is 500ly (assuming they want a 100ly+ margin to do stuff at the border before returning, if not it'd be about 1,256ly)!
darkstarling
Brilliantly Crazed
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[ ] Frontier (Cargo, Evacuation, Medical)
[ ] Support (Cargo, Fabrication, Repair)
Let's make ship the best at what it does. We already chose 'frontier' over 'support' with a hair thin margin when we picked a cargo bay over shuttles. All the arguments for why those were both good choices still apply.
As such I'm going to lean slightly more toward Frontier - that's what we already picked, so synergy, and plus Starfleet will want to give this ship peacetime capacity. But both sets of options will be good.
@Sayle thanks for giving us a theming vote
[ ] Support (Cargo, Fabrication, Repair)
Let's make ship the best at what it does. We already chose 'frontier' over 'support' with a hair thin margin when we picked a cargo bay over shuttles. All the arguments for why those were both good choices still apply.
As such I'm going to lean slightly more toward Frontier - that's what we already picked, so synergy, and plus Starfleet will want to give this ship peacetime capacity. But both sets of options will be good.
@Sayle thanks for giving us a theming vote
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- Location
- USA
[ ] Frontier (Cargo, Evacuation, Medical)
[ ] Support (Cargo, Fabrication, Repair)
Has to be one of these, we just picked range over science so going for science with the other two options is going backwards on that.
[ ] Support (Cargo, Fabrication, Repair)
Has to be one of these, we just picked range over science so going for science with the other two options is going backwards on that.
[ ] Frontier (Cargo, Evacuation, Medical)
[ ] Support (Cargo, Fabrication, Repair)
Given the choices we've made thus far, the needs of the Federation at this time and the capabilities of the ship itself (long range/high endurance and fast) these seem to be the most optimal choices.
Ideally I think, given our present cargo choices, if at all possible some combination of fabrication, medical and repair would be really good.
[ ] Support (Cargo, Fabrication, Repair)
Given the choices we've made thus far, the needs of the Federation at this time and the capabilities of the ship itself (long range/high endurance and fast) these seem to be the most optimal choices.
Ideally I think, given our present cargo choices, if at all possible some combination of fabrication, medical and repair would be really good.
But we still need to have a decent scientific score to avoid unnecessary losses. Excalibur-class suffered greatly from this. Ship had a slightly different role, of course... but it is still worth addressing.
The Excalibur is (effectively) an explorer, and whilst it has less science than the canon Connie it did not result in any situations where the ships were lost to phenomena that the Connie's didn't because if that lack of science - in fact, we lost one less than we otherwise would have, the Doomsday Machine being dealt with by the ship on station rather than lost.
darkstarling
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Excalibur suffered losses going exploring without heavy science. This ship isn't going to be an Explorer.
I'm imagining a ship role, for a hypothetical Pathfinder class. Trouble is you'd only use it when sending military forces into unknown space, like if we were actually invading the Klingon Empire. But a fast, evasive military science ship.