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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

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An idea for the Axe, if we do do it-

Master Rune of Breaking, Rune of Cleaving, Rune of Striking: Nice magical doodad you got there.

Be a shame if somebody shattered it like glass, and then took your head as well.

And for a Warmachine, as well-

Master Rune of Disguise, Rune of Burning, Rune of Penetrating: The caves speak Khazalid
 
Two people independently coming to the same idea definitely means it's more likely to actually work than when it's just one person coming up with it. It would be great if it helps the Brana integrate further south but it feels bit wierd to me to give it to someone who isn't already a big ally of the brana but I think that's mainly because the aesthetics of my version, I'm sure we could make it work.
I had a thought about that actually. IIRC, Grimnir carried three axes - two for melee, and one for chucking at enemies (much like the one we're proposing!). I believe he also met the Brana and the King of the Sky during his final march north. With this in mind, let me yoink your description and tweak it a little:
The Claw of the Branakroki is a single bladed axe of adamant; the haft a polished bone taken from the same Elder Frostwyrm whose heart granted the Branakroki their powers over ice, banded in adamant with a leather grip made from the hide of Kholek Suneater. Depicted on one face of the axe head is the King of the Skies appearing to dive towards the axe's blade. On the other face, Grimnir the Valiant is depicted facing towards the blade, roaring mightily and drawing back his arm in the moment before casting his own powerful throwing axe while pointing towards the foe with the other arm. Much like the Branakroki, while in flight the axe is surrounded by a storm of ice and lightning which rake the enemy before they are struck by the blade which bites deep as Grimnir's own fury.
The mats chosen also work well symbolically here IMO. The Elder Frostwyrm was a collaborative kill between the King of the Sky and King Otrek IIRC, and Kholek Suneater was one of the great leaders of the very same daemonic horde that Grimnir ultimately gave his own life to stop and that the dawi and the Brana fought side-by-side against in Kraka Drakk. It was actually our King who got the killing blow on Kholek after all. So instead of just taking it as celebrating the Brana, we can frame it as celebrating the alliance and collaboration between the Brana and the dawi (the greatest example of which came during the Incursion), while simultaneously paying homage to Grimnir the Valiant, who is of course a big deal in Karak Kadrin especially.

As such I think it works as a gift that is distinctively from the Far North while not being exclusively of the Far North, if you see what I mean. You can even read deeper into it as a statement that while yes the Far North has things that make it distinctive, we still follow the same Ancestors and fight the same foes as the rest of the Karaz Ankor; our differences may make us stand out, but they shall not divide us. Though Snorri isn't really the type for deep political statements like that AFAICT, so if that comes up at all it would probably be as the rumor mill going "ah yes, observe the great wisdom and insight of the Living Ancestor beardlings, truly a powerful yet unspoken reminder of the common ties of duty and allegiance that bind us across even the greatest distances" while Snorri is just back in his workshop going "haha bitchin' runeaxe go brrr."

I would say that the name could be changed IMO. I'm not even just saying that because I like the name I came up with I swear, I just think it shouldn't be so focused on just the Brana with the reframing I'm proposing. But the rest of the design I really do like a lot. And on the topic of liking the name I came up with, I originally translated "Drengen Dronaz" as "Killing Storm". But it could equally, and probably even more fittingly, be translated as "Slaying Storm." Which would also make the alliteration cross the language barrier, so that's a plus as well lol.
 
That sounds awful! send link plz.
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Ostland: A northern province of the Empire, and the homeland of the ancient Udoses. Out of the many different parts of the Empire, much sets you apart. The massive Forest of Shadows which is filled to the brim with beastmen and goblins. The fact that your province is has the heaviest drinkers...

Note it took quite some time to get to Ungor, but the quest is plenty crazy beforehand. (Tor's dice may be possessed.)

I'm up to turn 30 over there myself. I can see why the mountain was so traumatizing given I just finished it a couple days ago.
 
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I had a thought about that actually. IIRC, Grimnir carried three axes - two for melee, and one for chucking at enemies (much like the one we're proposing!). I believe he also met the Brana and the King of the Sky during his final march north. With this in mind, let me yoink your description and tweak it a little:

The mats chosen also work well symbolically here IMO. The Elder Frostwyrm was a collaborative kill between the King of the Sky and King Otrek IIRC, and Kholek Suneater was one of the great leaders of the very same daemonic horde that Grimnir ultimately gave his own life to stop and that the dawi and the Brana fought side-by-side against in Kraka Drakk. It was actually our King who got the killing blow on Kholek after all. So instead of just taking it as celebrating the Brana, we can frame it as celebrating the alliance and collaboration between the Brana and the dawi (the greatest example of which came during the Incursion), while simultaneously paying homage to Grimnir the Valiant, who is of course a big deal in Karak Kadrin especially.

As such I think it works as a gift that is distinctively from the Far North while not being exclusively of the Far North, if you see what I mean. You can even read deeper into it as a statement that while yes the Far North has things that make it distinctive, we still follow the same Ancestors and fight the same foes as the rest of the Karaz Ankor; our differences may make us stand out, but they shall not divide us. Though Snorri isn't really the type for deep political statements like that AFAICT, so if that comes up at all it would probably be as the rumor mill going "ah yes, observe the great wisdom and insight of the Living Ancestor beardlings, truly a powerful yet unspoken reminder of the common ties of duty and allegiance that bind us across even the greatest distances" while Snorri is just back in his workshop going "haha bitchin' runeaxe go brrr."

I would say that the name could be changed IMO. I'm not even just saying that because I like the name I came up with I swear, I just think it shouldn't be so focused on just the Brana with the reframing I'm proposing. But the rest of the design I really do like a lot. And on the topic of liking the name I came up with, I originally translated "Drengen Dronaz" as "Killing Storm". But it could equally, and probably even more fittingly, be translated as "Slaying Storm." Which would also make the alliteration cross the language barrier, so that's a plus as well lol.
I like your proposed changes here to make it work better for Karak Kadrin and I agree with the name change, my name was mainly because I had to call it something and yes it really wouldn't work with the proposed design changes.
 
Don't take me as an authority on this, since I'm just one person and this is pretty much entirely hypothetical, but I wouldn't expect to see the Bloodthirster Gronti until after we unlock the next tier of Gromril. Whenever that is. There's a lot on the docket and plenty of shiny things to look at, plus whatever comes up as we go, so it's anyone's guess when this'll happen. Or if it'll even happen to begin with, since even something as relatively simple as gear for the Hearth Guard remains hypothetical. Then you have the fact that this is a quest, and everyone has ideas on what should be our priorities from turn to turn even if there was some speculative planning done before hand on what our roadmap should be.
I dunno, after we unlock T5 its possible that the Gronti vote block splits into those who want an Adamant or a Glimril Gronti. I feel the Grimnir Gronti would have already gone through, if we hadn't unlocked Adamant and begun the debate of full vs skinned.
 
I just reread the Karag Dum section: something interesting i found is that the next book from Valma is about Elementals and Constructs.

That's going to be pretty cool, I think.
 
I just reread the Karag Dum section: something interesting i found is that the next book from Valma is about Elementals and Constructs.

That's going to be pretty cool, I think.
Combine elementals with gronti to create an effectively indestructible gronti via allowing it to trivially repair itself? It would only be made out of stone, but being easier to damage matters little when it can repair itself so easily.
 
I dunno, after we unlock T5 its possible that the Gronti vote block splits into those who want an Adamant or a Glimril Gronti. I feel the Grimnir Gronti would have already gone through, if we hadn't unlocked Adamant and begun the debate of full vs skinned.
I agree, but I think it slots in to a similar time frame. I could see maybe making one item of the Gronti out of that next tier, but I figure there will be a lot of support for going all the way. It's just that there's so much we can do research wise, that I think going for that next tier is pretty far off.
I think it would be beneficial to go further down movement of things before we do the grimnir gronti
Putting aside future commissions, and further actions, there is a lot of research we can do that will likely improve the final product and Snorri's skills in general.

The Suneater's Brian might prove useful in the Gronti, and it would be an appropriately significant material to make an incredible item. The Lions might also provide some benefit, but I find this less likely though cheaper and repeatable. Though it should be mentioned that material research has added progression to rune research, though I could be misremembering things. So those two Odd Places might give us more materials to research that might directly benefit what we do or Snorri's research. Or it'll be more of a background benefit. As for the research, there's a lot.

Secrets of Light Part 2 has 5 actions, and this is one step on the path to functioning eye prosthetics.

Diction Direction Part 2 has 4 actions, and this has the promise of both fixing hearing and a universal translator.

The Movement of Things Part 4 has 7 actions, and is generally focused on understanding Deep Magic and it's connection to Runes.

The Mind of Things Part 3 has 6 actions, and is even more vague. Not just connections to prosthetics, but more so focused on how one's Mind interacts with Runes. So maybe some soul stuff.

So my take away from this is that The Movement of Things Part 4 is something I'd like done before making Snorri's next piece of gear.

The Mind of Things Part 3 is interesting, and seems really important for Snorri's ability to understand some of the fundamental facts of his world, but it's also part of a chain of research. Though if my memory serves me right, research like Diction Direction and Secrets of Light also contribute to The Mind of Things. It's pretty clear to me that these three research chains feed into one another, or at least two of them feed into a third. I like the idea of tackling all of this at once, but even chipping away at it deliberately will have to be done over a long period of time.

All of this is one top of Eltharin and Akazit, as well as growing sentiment to do Rune Metal Part 5 and even more support for finishing Rune Metal Part 3B.

My current thinking is so. Whether we finish the Odd Places, do some material research, or both, I think we can make the Gronti after finishing Akazit. Snorri is constantly improving his craft. So I feel like going for Secrets of Light + Diction Direction + The Mind of Things is just as much of a trap as Rune Metal Part 5. If not more so. Both when it comes to action economy, and thread interest. Akazit might pose a similar obstacle, but even I don't think we should stall it for the Gronti. The Movement of Things I'm kind of indifferent towards. It'll improve what Snorri can do, but I'm currently feeling like it isn't necessary for the Gronti. I don't know how much Adamant we'll need from this point to make the whole Gronti, and I'm willing to take it, but I'd also be willing to trade it off. If that makes sense. Like, if there's enough support, try to finish off Rune Metal Part 3B. So after such a commitment, then not commit to The Movement of Things.

Maybe I'm rushing things, but in conclusion. Sometime after Akazit, depending on the Adamant supply and thread sentiment.
 
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