Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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Much as I'd like to be there for the science, both on Niko and Umika's side of things, I agree we don't strictly need to be there. We can trust it will happen since everyone knows the plan. Besides, both girls know how their own powers work better than we do, and if we're not there, we can't put our foot in our mouth by trying to tell them how to do their jobs.
We can catch up and hear any interesting conclusions after.
That said, there is one suggestion I think is important:
[X] Parró
- [X] Sure, you'll talk to her...
-- [X] Now
--- [X] Send your friends ahead with the Soul Gems
---- [X] Remind Oriko that Kazumi has a privacy bubble
[X] Grab Yuki and fly her back to Mitakihara so she can work on getting a building while you find a bunch of hotel rooms
We can catch up and hear any interesting conclusions after.
That said, there is one suggestion I think is important:
[X] Parró
- [X] Sure, you'll talk to her...
-- [X] Now
--- [X] Send your friends ahead with the Soul Gems
---- [X] Remind Oriko that Kazumi has a privacy bubble
[X] Grab Yuki and fly her back to Mitakihara so she can work on getting a building while you find a bunch of hotel rooms
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- LEO
Parró knows nothing about the group that kicked her ass, and we know little more about the nature of constellation. We can't offer guarantees about much, or a picture of their likely future. we should wait until we have one of those. The only thing we can offer is a name and uncertainty, waiting till after lunch gives us something.
Wait didn't we just insist that Oriko come with us because we're too paranoid to let her leave our sight until we know for sure that she's safe. What on earth are you thinking letting her go off somewhere without us. If we're talking to Parró then she should come with us instead of going to Asunaro by herself
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- Australia
I'm cool with talking to Parró whenever, but shouldn't we be either keeping Oriko with us or going with her and talking to Parró later, rather than splitting up? The entire reason for asking her along on this trip is that we think we have reasonable cause to worry about her dying based on her prophecy, and that we hope to circumvent that because she specifically wasn't with us when it happened. I understand the timeframe around the prophecy is hazy, and we can't keep Oriko with us 24/7, but it just seems like tempting fate to establish "Hey, we're concerned about you dying in these specific circumstances, you'd better stick with us to avoid them" and then saying "Oh, sure, you go on ahead, I'll catch up" right afterwards.
I'm probably leaning too far into narrative logic here, but this is exactly the sort of dramatic irony that we would look back on and curse ourselves for being so blind to immediately after finding Oriko dead. It's like being genre savvy for the whole horror movie, but then saying "sure, we can split up for five minutes, what's the worst that could happen?"
EDIT: Ninja'd. Curse my verbosity!
I'm probably leaning too far into narrative logic here, but this is exactly the sort of dramatic irony that we would look back on and curse ourselves for being so blind to immediately after finding Oriko dead. It's like being genre savvy for the whole horror movie, but then saying "sure, we can split up for five minutes, what's the worst that could happen?"
EDIT: Ninja'd. Curse my verbosity!
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Good point. We also should volunteer our grief constructs to the rebodying efforts, and maybe suggest doing both experiments in Yuki's building.
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They weren't willing to speak to us immediately after they were captured. She wants to speak to us now, and I'm willing to hear her. We may not be able to give her many guarantees, and if that's what she's looking for it will be a very short conversation.
Whatever she does ask us for, however, may well inform what we want to bring up during our next Constellation meeting, so getting this out of the way before we forget about it is a good idea.
Hearing complaints is one of those unpleasant things you agree to when you make the mistake of taking prisoners alive.
Oriko just explained that this is earlier than her mysterious deaths started happening, otherwise I'd be right there with you. Further, the prison is inside one of Yuki's teleport hubs, which means getting there if something happens is way easier than it would be if we were properly out of range.
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- LEO
Showing up to meeting prepared with actually useful information is also a thing, and lunch is really close. Once we have the teleport hub getting back to talk to her will be easy.
I don't put much weight on a short and substanceless talk, especially if we are going to be able to tell her useful stuff soon. I'd much rather contribute towards fixing the rebodying problem.
Misty Raven
Tee Hee
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Even if Oriko basically nixed the idea that she's in danger from Feathers yet, we did promise Homura and Sayaka that we'd be right with her to keep an eye on her during this trip. It would be a little skeevy to leave Oriko out of our sight, I feel. Especially since Homura and Sayaka are only just beginning to extend some… not good-will exactly but reduced hostility to the Kures.
Being inside a teleport hub is better than nothing and Oriko does think we're being overcautious but we shouldn't drop safety precautions just because they're a little inconvenient. It's going to involve a slightly awkward conversation with Mami but I'd really like to commit Sabrina to keeping Oriko within her 100 meter sensing range at all times.
This is also a good point. Even leaving safety concerns aside Homura's going to be really upset if we let Oriko go off by herself after promising to watch her
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These are good points. Much as I support being less of a control freak and letting people other than us do things, it probably is best we not send Oriko off on her own for this. Especially since we did say we had other things we wanted to talk about regarding investigating Feathers and keeping her safe.
The Soul Gem delivery still doesn't need us there.
[X] Parró
- [X] Sure, you'll talk to her...
-- [X] Now
--- [X] Send your friends ahead with the Soul Gems
---- [X] Have Oriko and Kirika wait so we can go talk to Umika together.
[X] Ask Umika to help plumb Oriko's memories
-[X] Use privacy
-[X] Check Sabrina too. the Feather incident, places we noticed Invisitext, and places Oriko remembers being weird with us in her visions
-[X] Mention wanting to check Sayaka too once she gets back from vacation
-[X] Warn her about infohazards in our memories
-[X] Make mundane copies of what shows up in Umika's book to review later
-[X] Try a Griefhax forgotten memory viewer too
-[X] Have Oriko check the karmic links on the Feather while we're doing this.
--[X] A normal feather should at least be linked to the bird it came from, right?
[X] Grab Yuki and fly her back to Mitakihara so she can work on getting a building while you find a bunch of hotel rooms
The Soul Gem delivery still doesn't need us there.
[X] Parró
- [X] Sure, you'll talk to her...
-- [X] Now
--- [X] Send your friends ahead with the Soul Gems
---- [X] Have Oriko and Kirika wait so we can go talk to Umika together.
[X] Ask Umika to help plumb Oriko's memories
-[X] Use privacy
-[X] Check Sabrina too. the Feather incident, places we noticed Invisitext, and places Oriko remembers being weird with us in her visions
-[X] Mention wanting to check Sayaka too once she gets back from vacation
-[X] Warn her about infohazards in our memories
-[X] Make mundane copies of what shows up in Umika's book to review later
-[X] Try a Griefhax forgotten memory viewer too
-[X] Have Oriko check the karmic links on the Feather while we're doing this.
--[X] A normal feather should at least be linked to the bird it came from, right?
[X] Grab Yuki and fly her back to Mitakihara so she can work on getting a building while you find a bunch of hotel rooms
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why not just ask them to lend their soul gems?
worst to the worst, we get the data off how do soul gems create a body from scratch
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Stuffing both their Soul Gems in our Hammerspace to do the "make Oriko's vision technically come true while subverting its implications" is certainly an option we should consider if we get closer to the deadline without finding out anything useful about Feathers.
[X] Nerevar
Lopezelpesado
Space worm best worm.
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[X] Nerevar
I wonder if Oriko would have any requests about watching any forgotten memories. Thats what the Memory scanner is for after all.
I wonder if Oriko would have any requests about watching any forgotten memories. Thats what the Memory scanner is for after all.
Misty Raven
Tee Hee
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I wonder if we could get the Soujus to teach Kirika and Oriko how to be conscious as gems. Might make that option a little more palatable for them.
Or I suppose it might weird them out even more to be stuck as gems and still conscious for multiple days, hrmm…
i meant a more of "wear their soul gem rings" but that might also work
the future is flexible after all
Something that may be relevant to our upcoming discussions with Parró and Umika is that Umika previously mentioned she might be able to create magically binding contracts. I'm not sure if we want to go down that road but it's potentially an alternative to confinement. We should ask her about them again when we talk to her about Oriko
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- United States
I don't know about that. I mean, magically binding contracts are typically an exact-words kind of thing, and I can think of at least one alien hive mind who's been playing that game since the dawn of human civilization and would probably be willing to give Parró some pro bono legal advice just to screw with us.
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If the thread even decides that holding other people to certain minimum standards of behavior is something that we can be bothered with, I don't think that an enforcement mechanism that nobody understands is a good plan.
Magically enforced contracts would save on manpower for "parole officers" but just going out and getting parole officers is something we can just do and understand how they work perfectly well. We probably should have a trial for magically enforced contracts, but starting that is down the pile of science projects. It's a thing for more manpower to tackle.
Magically enforced contracts would save on manpower for "parole officers" but just going out and getting parole officers is something we can just do and understand how they work perfectly well. We probably should have a trial for magically enforced contracts, but starting that is down the pile of science projects. It's a thing for more manpower to tackle.
Technoturnovers
$19 Fortnite card. Who wants it?
Doesn't Sabrina have eidetic memory, though, limited only by the hypothetical capacity of actual questgoers to recall knowledge? That's why Sabrina is a literal genius when it comes to "book smarts", after all- she has the collective knowledge of everyone who has ever used this site, which definitely includes more than a few PhDs, and the hypothetical knowledge capacity of any SV user being able to just Google something they don't know. Like, basically, in order for Sabrina to forget something we would all need to forget it, just like Sabrina witching out would require the thread to totally go to shit barring an agitating factor like us poking a familiar or something.
I've been reading way too much Raildex fanfic (and staying up to late lmao), because I had to stare at my screen for a few seconds before I remembered what setting this is and what that name actually refers to here.
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Sabrina knows what we know, and that is both an advantage and a disadvantage.
Her memory of recent events is one of those areas where it's a disadvantage, since for everyone else, those things happened a couple weeks ago, but for Sabrina it has been years.
Sabrina is reliant on people re-reading to keep her memory relatively fresh.
berani00
Hopeless Optimist
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- The post-nuclear wasteland of Melbourne, Australia
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*Sprints into thread at breakneck pace and barely skids to a stop*
Phew, took only 7611 pages and several months, most of it being a straight binge through the entire thing before i gave up two sevenths in and just went by the story thread.
I'm new here and I'm really loving this story. I'm so excited to see where this goes next and I hope I can contribute to a happy ending Magical Girls in Madoka Magica truly deserve!
Phew, took only 7611 pages and several months, most of it being a straight binge through the entire thing before i gave up two sevenths in and just went by the story thread.
I'm new here and I'm really loving this story. I'm so excited to see where this goes next and I hope I can contribute to a happy ending Magical Girls in Madoka Magica truly deserve!
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