Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
That's just a sign that Mami ready to recieved the witchbomb info.
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DB_Explorer
Purveyor of alternate realities.
- Location
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- He/Him
[x] Kaizuki
HAIL CAT PRIEST(ESS?) OF FLUFF AND PATRON OF WAFFF
HAIL CAT PRIEST(ESS?) OF FLUFF AND PATRON OF WAFFF
- Location
- Illinois
Aye sir, full speed ahead.
[X] If Mami is still acting like this is the morning, comment positively on it.
-[X] Stumble through blushingly admitting that you really like it when she's being confident and/or passionate.
-[X] Kiss her on the cheek.
[X] Nagisa
-[X] What's she been doing?
-[X] Mention Yuma's existence. They're about the same age? Leave out the ugly parts.
[X] "Shopping" with Homura. When? Do it.
[X] Going to school
-[X] Poke Sayaka. If she doesn't have a decision yet, that's fine.
--[X] If she's decided she wants to know: she's sending a clone to school and the original is staying with you.
I mostly just filled in the non-sayaka non-mami parts with general stuff. If there's a problem with it LMK.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Maybe part of it is that it's... exaggerated?
We've been telling Mami we like when she's confident and such, for quite a while now, and Sabrina doesn't usually get that flustered about things.
Right now, Mami dropped the kiss with pinpoint precision at the best possible time, so it makes sense for Sabrina to react like she did, but 'Stumble through blushingly admitting...' is more like cute omake shitposting material; Sabrina doesn't usually do the whole blushing schoolgirl thing.
It could read better if we strip away the details and let Firn write Sabrina as Firn's been writing Sabrina all along.
[ ] Keep supporting/encouraging Mami to be herself, to regain her confidence and assertiveness.
Also...
-[?] Kiss her goodbye when you leave her at school. Make a habit of it.
(That would be a good habit.
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- Location
- U.S.A.
[X] Cat
In cat we trust.
In cat we trust.
- Location
- Illinois
[X] Kaizuki
Sounds nice.
But the continued fluffiness is raising my paranoia.When is something wrong gonna happen?! It's been more than five seconds without bad things happening, but the opposite...! It's all fluffy and warm.
[Q] Mami look what you did.
I say we should take all these fluffy feelings and, if Sayaka chooses to learn the Witchbomb, use these feelings to cover any uncertainty and fear, pour some niceness and hugs and reassurances into Sayaka that it's all gonna be OK, and then don't allow ourselves to feel down because of Witchbombs. Take care and do right by our Kouhai, but be strong, think of Mami, and be her pillar that tells her everything's gonna be alright.
Let's never do the whole thing where, before a difficult conversation, we get jittery and nervous out of... what, some warped sense of obligation or fear? We didn't do that tonight, and that really helped.
We should learn from this, keep this. Tomorow, we might have to Witchbomb Sayaka, and while she's not Mami, she's a good friend of Sabrina and it's gonna be better for her if we go into it with confidence and trust, rather than fear.
EDIT: And if Sayaka comments that we were strangely cool during the Witchbomb conversation, we have Sabrina poke her own cheek and think back to tonight.
In all honestly I'm not particularly worried about witchbombing Sayaka. I'm looking forward to it, even: I think having her in on it will be good for everyone involved.
Everything we know about her says "this is the person who insists on taking the high road, who wants to believe in justice, who will rage against the system from the moment she understands it."
We explain Evil to her. We tell her we're going to fucking break it in half. She gets really, really mad at Kyubey and asks what she can do to help.
It might put her off using seeds if we aren't careful about it, but... I think we address that with something like... "Listen, nobody has succeeded at doing anything about this in however many millennia Kyubey has been doing what it does. It's not that nobody has tried, Sayaka. On the contrary, tons of people have over the years. It's that everyone ever who has tried has died or witched. We probably have the best shot at putting an end to this suffering out of anyone who has ever lived, and so while I'll understand it if you try to rely on cleansing instead of seeds as much as you can, in the end, using a seed for cleansing is going to constitute temporarily leaning on someone else for support while you're trying to literally save their soul. The moment we lose someone, all of the rest of us are suddenly a million times more vulnerable, and by extension the entire effort could be imperiled. We will save lives and help others because we are capable of it and because it is the right thing to do: even when there's some risk to it, the alternative would be tacitly accepting the very sort of thing we're trying to stop. But when there are safe alternatives, harming yourself to avoid imposing on others is unacceptable. We are not allowed to come to serious harm, because the actual eternal suffering of countless souls hangs in the balance, and if you think risking that is worth not having a clear seed hold some grief for you until I can cleanse it, I -- don't think that. I'm only okay with Mami not having one on hand because she lives with me."
Everything we know about her says "this is the person who insists on taking the high road, who wants to believe in justice, who will rage against the system from the moment she understands it."
We explain Evil to her. We tell her we're going to fucking break it in half. She gets really, really mad at Kyubey and asks what she can do to help.
It might put her off using seeds if we aren't careful about it, but... I think we address that with something like... "Listen, nobody has succeeded at doing anything about this in however many millennia Kyubey has been doing what it does. It's not that nobody has tried, Sayaka. On the contrary, tons of people have over the years. It's that everyone ever who has tried has died or witched. We probably have the best shot at putting an end to this suffering out of anyone who has ever lived, and so while I'll understand it if you try to rely on cleansing instead of seeds as much as you can, in the end, using a seed for cleansing is going to constitute temporarily leaning on someone else for support while you're trying to literally save their soul. The moment we lose someone, all of the rest of us are suddenly a million times more vulnerable, and by extension the entire effort could be imperiled. We will save lives and help others because we are capable of it and because it is the right thing to do: even when there's some risk to it, the alternative would be tacitly accepting the very sort of thing we're trying to stop. But when there are safe alternatives, harming yourself to avoid imposing on others is unacceptable. We are not allowed to come to serious harm, because the actual eternal suffering of countless souls hangs in the balance, and if you think risking that is worth not having a clear seed hold some grief for you until I can cleanse it, I -- don't think that. I'm only okay with Mami not having one on hand because she lives with me."
I--
Oooooh. One question, can Sayaka hold a clone while she's in a privacy sphere?
Oh. And we need to not ask Sayaka things in front of Madoka. Because Homuhomu.
Ehm.
This needs a bit of thought.
- Location
- Illinois
NEWS TO ME. You sure about that? Cuz as far as I know, we tried to say that once, ended up not doing it, and I've been hauling around a sign saying "Remember that we need to do this" ever since.
We absolutely do about these particular things.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
We should have the conv with Sayaka when she's free, during lunch or in the afternoon?
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
We're overdue for talking to Kyouko. She's low on grief seeds and feeling like she's obligated to do us a favour after what Nakano did for her.
We might be able to shuffle that around into accepting a Clear Seed from us? Something to get done today, IMO.
We might be able to shuffle that around into accepting a Clear Seed from us? Something to get done today, IMO.
- Location
- Illinois
Honestly would rather actually pull her out of school and take her to get ice cream for this. Would be an effective way to not have other people (Mami) involved in it.
Also...
-[?] Kiss her goodbye when you leave her at school. Make a habit of it.
(That would be a good habit.
I'm interested in what the vanilla reactions will be after the recent votes. I do actually need a sample space to fuel the modeling engine. Separating from us to go to school is a major stress point for Mami and that makes it an extremely informative reference. We've slightly overshot where I figured we'd be with her (which is a good thing!) and between that and my brain turning over and my memory of the last couple years going, well... yeah. I really need that scene as-it-comes rather than deliberately injecting happiness into it. Tells me what direction is next.
Concur. We definitely need to speak with Kyouko today. The question is gonna be the content... I kinda feel we should lichbomb her, but I understand at least some others don't feel that way?
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Kyouko doesn't really take the bombs well. Yuma manages, but it's still a pretty questionable decision in general IMO. :/
"Sabrina that was just last Friday."
You guys ever going to tell Kyouko about the exact depths of our meta-knowledge? We've already told everyone else. Now it's just her and Yuma left.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I don't think that's a good idea. School is an important thing for these girls. Like, reaaaaally important.
Making Sayaka miss school would be... bad. And would be one of those gestures I think we should stop doing; yes, we're gonna have an important conversation, but Sayaka shouldn't stop living just to have it.
And if we don't have Sayaka miss school, we'd need to have the conversation while she still attends with a clone... We shouldn't have her split like that during the Witchbomb.
Mami's doing fantastic right now, and it wouldn't be the first time we left her alone with friends while we went
This way the Witchbomb doesn't interrupt Sayaka's day and makes it more difficult to concentrate in class afterwards, if she chooses to learn it. And if she does, we can blow some steam by
I think we can wait out classes, then leave Mami with Madoka, Homura and Hitomi, and take Sayaka somewhere else so we can have our private conversation?
Well I meant an IC year.
[Q] Make sure to never forget.
-[Q] Make two paintings:
--[Q] One of the first time you kissed Mami; exaggerate Mami's angelness in the painting.
--[Q] One of Mami kissing you for the first time; exaggerate your flustering and swooning in the painting.
-[Q] Frame the paintings, and get a third canvas framed.
-[Q] Hang the the frames on the wall, the ones depicting the kisses to the sides, the empty one in the middle.
I don't think that's a good idea. School is an important thing for these girls. Like, reaaaaally important.
Making Sayaka miss school would be... bad. And would be one of those gestures I think we should stop doing; yes, we're gonna have an important conversation, but Sayaka shouldn't stop living just to have it.
And if we don't have Sayaka miss school, we'd need to have the conversation while she still attends with a clone... We shouldn't have her split like that during the Witchbomb.
Mami's doing fantastic right now, and it wouldn't be the first time we left her alone with friends while we wentout with our ex-waifusomewhere else with Sayaka. We asked Sayaka if she wanted to learn the secret yesterday afternoon, right? We could ask for her decision in the afternoon, too. A whole day of thought.
This way the Witchbomb doesn't interrupt Sayaka's day and makes it more difficult to concentrate in class afterwards, if she chooses to learn it. And if she does, we can blow some steam bykillingSAVING a Witch, or just by sparring.
I think we can wait out classes, then leave Mami with Madoka, Homura and Hitomi, and take Sayaka somewhere else so we can have our private conversation?
Well I meant an IC year.
[Q] Make sure to never forget.
-[Q] Make two paintings:
--[Q] One of the first time you kissed Mami; exaggerate Mami's angelness in the painting.
--[Q] One of Mami kissing you for the first time; exaggerate your flustering and swooning in the painting.
-[Q] Frame the paintings, and get a third canvas framed.
-[Q] Hang the the frames on the wall, the ones depicting the kisses to the sides, the empty one in the middle.
Pffft, when I was a kid, I would have jumped at the chance to skip a day of school. The only thing that would make me hesitate is possibly getting in trouble and the make-up work.
Of course, things could and probably are different in Japan.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Yes, it doesn't make any sense, does it?Pffft, when I was a kid, I would have jumped at the chance to skip a day of school. The only thing that would make me hesitate is possibly getting in trouble and the make-up work.
Of course, things could and probably are different in Japan.
This is from the morning after the Endless Time Stop Fatigue Oriko Hunt:
Yes, it doesn't make any sense, does it?
This is from the morning after the Endless Time Stop Fatigue Oriko Hunt:
I meant more along the line that maybe it's actually fun for her and she enjoys it. Although, that's true as well.
Can't she just clone herself? It shouldn't be much of a problem. I'd be more concerned about possibly rushing her decision. I'd fully expect her to want to know the truth, though. Sooner or later.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I got the idea at some point we asked the girls about missing school and they looked at us.
We weirdo.
But I can't find such a scene, so maybe I imagined it.
As for the Witchbomb, I don't feel it's a good idea to have Sayaka be splitted in clones while we talk about it? It's something that deserves her full attention, and it can wait for after she's done with classes. Even if everything goes well, I don't think she'll be able to focus well enough on school if we assists right after Witchbomb talk, or if we Witchbomb her while she's in class.
- Location
- Florida
so goals for tomorrow:
morning:
mami fluff
revenge on sayaka
get in contact w/ nagisa/shin
during school:
talk to kyouko (maybe witchbomb her)
use our connections to get in contact w/ a therapist
grief science
evening:
ask sayaka if she's come to a decision
shopping with homura (or is this during lunch?)
talk to hitomi's mom?
am i missing anything? we have an ID now, is there anything we wanna do that it would be useful for? have we made any promises or obligations i'm forgetting? like were we planning to ever hop back into meguca IRCs?
morning:
mami fluff
revenge on sayaka
get in contact w/ nagisa/shin
during school:
talk to kyouko (maybe witchbomb her)
use our connections to get in contact w/ a therapist
grief science
evening:
ask sayaka if she's come to a decision
shopping with homura (or is this during lunch?)
talk to hitomi's mom?
am i missing anything? we have an ID now, is there anything we wanna do that it would be useful for? have we made any promises or obligations i'm forgetting? like were we planning to ever hop back into meguca IRCs?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Morning, seemingly.
It's done during timestop, so we have time.
That was scheduled for the weekend.
- Location
- Florida
huh, so the day's pretty open, then. i suppose talking to nagisa might result in more evening plans? and the sayaka talk could be time consuming if she says yes. lots of time for science!
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
I really would like to contact Fukushima and the University group to discuss future groups to travel to. We don't have to actually do the trip today, just gather some info.
- Location
- Illinois
Hm.
Can we -- can we get away with just using the censor instead of the privacy bubble?
That'd solve the potential issue with the clones.
Mami took the day off to be with us and the Pleiades, remember.
I... Don't think the Madokami-bedamned witchbomb is of lesser weight.
It's really a matter of...
Hm.
The less exposure anyone else has to this entire thing, the better. Having everyone else in school at the time is optimal for that. We could certainly run off alone with Sayaka after school and have a potentially hour+ long talk with her, buuuuuuut we'd have to explain at least the broad strokes of what was going on to everyone else.
Sayaka Prime should be with us, because being that this is the witchbomb, it would be a colossal risk to have her not be with the grief controller for it.
I agree that it's suboptimal, but I think it's reasonable for her to focus on the witchbomb and arrange a bit of tutoring later on if necessary to make up the difference.
...
Perhaps more importantly than any of that, witchbombing Sayaka in the morning gives us the longest period of time between dropping the bomb and Sayaka going off to be alone. We bomb her before lunch, then potentially swap her out with the clone at lunch. We keep her around her friends and/or us the whole day, right up until she goes home. Hell, maybe even have another sleepover.
... I think I said I wasn't worried about witchbombing Sayaka. Let me rephrase that. I'm not worried about witchbombing Sayaka because we can plan around it with her knowledge that we're planning around it.
So...
Not talking about disclosing restricted information to Sayaka in front of Madoka via arranging to meet Sayaka over telepathy. We can use the censor instead of the privacy bubble.
Some other alterations to reflect that we went to bed early.
[X] If Mami is still acting like this is the morning, comment positively on it.
-[X] Stumble through blushingly admitting that you really like it when she's being confident and/or passionate.
-[X] Kiss her on the cheek.
[X] Make sure to take into account that you'll probably be up early. Don't, e.g., call Nagisa at 6:00 AM.
[X] Nagisa
-[X] What's she been doing?
-[X] Mention Yuma's existence. They're about the same age? Leave out the ugly parts.
[X] Sayaka
-[X] Don't wake her up early.
-[X] Did she make a decision yet? If not, that's completely fine.
--[X] If she's decided she wants to know: she should send a clone to school. You'll meet her after.
[X] "Shopping" with Homura. When? Do it.
Can we -- can we get away with just using the censor instead of the privacy bubble?
That'd solve the potential issue with the clones.
Mami took the day off to be with us and the Pleiades, remember.
I... Don't think the Madokami-bedamned witchbomb is of lesser weight.
It's really a matter of...
Hm.
The less exposure anyone else has to this entire thing, the better. Having everyone else in school at the time is optimal for that. We could certainly run off alone with Sayaka after school and have a potentially hour+ long talk with her, buuuuuuut we'd have to explain at least the broad strokes of what was going on to everyone else.
Sayaka Prime should be with us, because being that this is the witchbomb, it would be a colossal risk to have her not be with the grief controller for it.
I agree that it's suboptimal, but I think it's reasonable for her to focus on the witchbomb and arrange a bit of tutoring later on if necessary to make up the difference.
...
Perhaps more importantly than any of that, witchbombing Sayaka in the morning gives us the longest period of time between dropping the bomb and Sayaka going off to be alone. We bomb her before lunch, then potentially swap her out with the clone at lunch. We keep her around her friends and/or us the whole day, right up until she goes home. Hell, maybe even have another sleepover.
... I think I said I wasn't worried about witchbombing Sayaka. Let me rephrase that. I'm not worried about witchbombing Sayaka because we can plan around it with her knowledge that we're planning around it.
So...
Not talking about disclosing restricted information to Sayaka in front of Madoka via arranging to meet Sayaka over telepathy. We can use the censor instead of the privacy bubble.
Some other alterations to reflect that we went to bed early.
[X] If Mami is still acting like this is the morning, comment positively on it.
-[X] Stumble through blushingly admitting that you really like it when she's being confident and/or passionate.
-[X] Kiss her on the cheek.
[X] Make sure to take into account that you'll probably be up early. Don't, e.g., call Nagisa at 6:00 AM.
[X] Nagisa
-[X] What's she been doing?
-[X] Mention Yuma's existence. They're about the same age? Leave out the ugly parts.
[X] Sayaka
-[X] Don't wake her up early.
-[X] Did she make a decision yet? If not, that's completely fine.
--[X] If she's decided she wants to know: she should send a clone to school. You'll meet her after.
[X] "Shopping" with Homura. When? Do it.
- Location
- Florida
okay, i can get behind that
[] Kaizuki
edit: nvm changed vote
edit: nvm changed vote
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