Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Homura's fashion is in peril.
What does Kirika think about this?
Very wise.
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What does Kirika think about this?
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
EXCUSE YOU.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
She was never told in either of those timelines that her witch would destroy the world.
The only story where she knows in Homura's Revenge, which is a non-canon joke story from a magazine entirely of omake that I can't take seriously.
Seriously, if Madoka knew her witch would destroy the world and contracted without doing anything to prevent it like she did with the Madokami wish, she would be history's greatest monster (except for Kyubey). I feel like we're generally of the opinion that Madoka is a nice person who doesn't consign entire populations to extinction on a whim?
I feel like we can convince her not to risk the fate of seven billion people on the assumption that her wish covered all the bases. Up to and including telling her that we know it will backfire horribly. Because we do.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
If we ever get around Witchbombing Madoka, we go all the way. And by "all the way", I mean "Homura is super lesbians for you and has such a huge inferiority complex she kinda reminds me of someone, so basically Rebellion".
My Shitposting Omake was actually me propagating my views through easily acceptable prism of comedy.
I think there is some miscommunication problem on my part...
obssesednuker
Commander of 10 Million Men
- Location
- In the Kremlin, activating Perimtr.
Actually, upon a quick google search I noticed that Madoka isn't the only one with a chair obsession. So is her mother (which I think we already knew)...
The local hospital...
And maybe Sayaka (although she also appears to have a thing for beanbags[?])...
Then again, maybe the latter two cases are all gifts from Madoka.
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Maybe it's just the local fashion then?Actually, upon a quick google search I noticed that Madoka isn't the only one with a chair obsession. So is her mother (which I think we already knew)...
The local hospital...
And maybe Sayaka (although she also appears to have a thing for beanbags[?])...
Then again, maybe the latter two cases are all gifts from Madoka.
Script Mak3r
(Verified Sun God) (Verified Feathers)
- Location
- Hell of Blazing Fires
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Madoka just uses her parents' bedroom as extra storage for her chairs.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
Madoka just uses her parents' bedroom as extra storage for her chairs.
And Sayaka's home
And the hospital wards~
obssesednuker
Commander of 10 Million Men
- Location
- In the Kremlin, activating Perimtr.
Or a magical girl whose wish was for people with blue, pink, and purple hair to have chair obssessions and the owner of the hospital is one of those hair colors.
(Also, the research for this post made me realize: Madoka has pink hair. Her mother has purple. Her father's a brunette, as is her brother. Fucking anime hair genetics, how do they work?)
Madoka just uses her parents' bedroom as extra storage for her chairs.
I preferred to think of it as a case of "like daughter, like mother"...
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
Look at how the chairs are arrayed around the beds. Surrounding them. Watching them sleep.
Nobody actually bought the chairs. They just showed up one day and everyone assumes that someone else brought them. But it was actually the Incubators' doing.
The chairs are actually the shapeshifting aliens from Phillip K. Dick's short story Colony, and they're just waiting for their moment to strike.
Nobody actually bought the chairs. They just showed up one day and everyone assumes that someone else brought them. But it was actually the Incubators' doing.
The chairs are actually the shapeshifting aliens from Phillip K. Dick's short story Colony, and they're just waiting for their moment to strike.
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I' pretty sure that if Homura's reaction is an issue Madoka can lawyer her wish into creating a scenario which doesn't hinder either Madoka's or Homura's agency.
(I'm not interested into making Rebellion 2.0
Why Niko?
blast flame
How far will we go if it means lighting the way?
- Location
- Perth, Australia
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Madoka was the strongest magical girl in history but the second strongest wished for their parent's chair business to do well.
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
- Location
- The Silver City
Yea okay except she also knew about the Witchbomb in The Different Story. and Multiple PSP game routes. And Homura's Revenge. The Witchbomb doesn't stop her if she sees a great enough need.
Uh... Homura's Revenge is not a joke story, and it seems to basically be canon for all intents and purposes. Also, it ran in the same magazine that Oriko Magica, Kazumi Magica, Suzune Magica, and Tart Magica all originally ran in before they got collected into individual volumes.
I mean, we also know Madoka totally has the balls to gemsmash herself to prevent her witch, so?
NitroFumetsu
Blaze of Glory
...remind me, have we ever asked why they have so many chairs? I don't remember.
I mean, there is the meta possibility that it's an homage to Bokurano, that show where children were selected by a manipulative little mascot character to pilot a giant robot from a series of random character-matching chairs that sucks out their soul and kills them to fuel a single giant 500 meter-tall robot fight to determine whether or not the universe fucking explodes, or rather 'which' universe fucking explodes. A multi-universal single-elimination tourney across 15 matches where at minimum, 32,767 universes fucking exploded, for the flimsiest reasons.
...goddamn.
I mean, there is the meta possibility that it's an homage to Bokurano, that show where children were selected by a manipulative little mascot character to pilot a giant robot from a series of random character-matching chairs that sucks out their soul and kills them to fuel a single giant 500 meter-tall robot fight to determine whether or not the universe fucking explodes, or rather 'which' universe fucking explodes. A multi-universal single-elimination tourney across 15 matches where at minimum, 32,767 universes fucking exploded, for the flimsiest reasons.
...goddamn.
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Because I'm wondering whether the Witchbomb club (or the de-Witching club?) should make these sort of important, dangerous decisions as a group.
I think each chair is supposed to represent a character or something?
EDIT: Hm... Chairacters.
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The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
Homura's Revenge is very explicitly non-canon, because it starts with an alternate ending to Episode 11, with a potentialbombed Homura and Madoka about to make the Madokami wish. And the first chapter is very blatantly not taking itself seriously. Homura does the fist-on-palm "I have an idea!" motion before she takes Madoka back in time with her.
And which magazine was that? Because I found it in Kirara Magica, alongside such things as Mitakihara Kindergarten, Cafe Grief Seed, Homura Tamura, Homura's Day Off and Mami's Everyday Life.
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
- Location
- The Silver City
Yes, but Madogatari treats it as canon as far as world-building/mechanics explanations go, and also poses the possibility that with infinite universes, there might be multiple Homuras making independent journeys.
Also, it's not like the anime never broke the mood with comic relief.
Yea, all of those ran in Kirara Magica. it's literally where all Madoka manga serializes. That it's deluged with a bunch of comedic omake shit literally doesn't matter.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
You know how terrifying this is, right?
We most send ALL THE BRINACLONES THROUGH THE MULTIVERSE.
To hug all the Homus, and save all the Dokas. After hugging and saving the Mamis. Also to save the Sayakas and you get the idea.
- Location
- USA, Midworld world line
Do Not Undo the long night we had with Homura, Please!
Starting off on the trail that seems right....
But wandering off the trail!
Fix problem, by showing respect. Not formal respect, real deal.
Suggested ways to do this:
Would you engage me with some relevant questions? I feel you don't see the distinction that is being asserted.
My intent is to keep continuity to our relationship talk from the prior night. The proper execution of that isn't just "Oh, I'll stop if you say stop." The right way is to say "You should make it go and stop, because I trust you." Share the power safely.
Starting off on the trail that seems right....
But wandering off the trail!
Fix problem, by showing respect. Not formal respect, real deal.
Suggested ways to do this:
Would you engage me with some relevant questions? I feel you don't see the distinction that is being asserted.
My intent is to keep continuity to our relationship talk from the prior night. The proper execution of that isn't just "Oh, I'll stop if you say stop." The right way is to say "You should make it go and stop, because I trust you." Share the power safely.
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obssesednuker
Commander of 10 Million Men
- Location
- In the Kremlin, activating Perimtr.
But did she also know that for her, witching = end of the world? Genuine question here, since I'm not familiar with Homura's Revenge.
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
- Location
- The Silver City
For most of those, yes. Madoka's pretty confident in A) Getting gemsmashed, or B) Homura resetting time.
mCooperative
meanderingCephalopod
- Location
- Back in Mitakihara after like 1000 years.
Mwargh, did we ever get clear word-of-god or word-of-Firn about the exact metaphysical state all those other timelines exist in? Like, is this a branching tree that persists after you starting running a branch then leave, is it a load of different very similar universes that start running in different directions when Homura gets to them but are actually totally independent, are they only concretely extant from a metatemporal perspective and there's an 'Alpha meta-Timeline' with some level of primacy as defined by Homura's presence which intersects with the continued non-paradoxed state of existence, or what? There's no detail to the information that previous timelines persist- is this even actually a setting where there is a differentiation between timelines and universes? Homura's thematic elements suggests there should be, simply because of how big a role thematic elements take, but what is it, then, and, and-
**keeps ranting about the matter**
**is aware I'm pretty sure we don't have explicitly clear answers for this**
**really, really wants explicitly clear answers for this, for peace of mind**
- Location
- Not the asylum anymore
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I still fear the fallout of Homura finding this out. Like, it might be worse than the potentialbomb.
This is why I hate the multiverse type of "time travel" that unfortunately seems to be canon because the original creators didn't think too deeply about the mechanics of Homura's power.
Imagine wishing to protect one person from a terrible fate and failing possibly hundreds of times, and then finding out that the results of your failures continue to exist. Every witched out Madoka left behind is suffering forever. All the people killed by the more powerful Gretchens created from your continued time travel's effects on potential are your fault. Homura's many attempts may have resulted in more tragic endings for some timelines than would have happened without her interference.
It just feels like some cruel monkey paw style garbage that violates the intent of Homura's wish.