Is it just me, or do we seem to always have some two people having it out in the comments section?

Ugo started fights. Then Sereg started fights. The Aura was fighting, and now Speck is fighting, and now I'm starting fights...

Oh god, it's gotten to me! I can't bring this vitriol back to Bay 12, I might *gasp* slow the development of Dwarf Fortress! *endgasp*

I shall henceforth only be referred to as The Aura.
 
*See QM's post*.......
anyway, everything that you have stated so far has not changed the situation, which is that Madoka making a wish will not end the world. Your attempt to liken it to a real world situation fails because it does not change that madoka could literally choose to kill herself to prevent becoming a witch (or someone else killing her to prevent her from becoming a witch) or madoka staying by us because we can prevent a witchout.
Seriously? Trying to get the last word after being told to cease by the QM is rather poor etiquette.
 
The Aura, can you confirm this?

AFAIK, there likely have been Madokas who have Contracted, beaten WP, but not Witched, but Homu's mission is to keep Doka alive and un-Contracted, so she'd still loop after WP, even if Doka survives it.

Depends on how canon Homura's Revenge is - if not in actual events, then in characterization.
 
So both sides are kinda in the right here, actually. It's easy to summarize. But uh... Doesn't this, well, deserve a bit more than a summary and a quick chat...?

Mami is srs business guys.
On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, we don't really get more than summaries in a quest format; at most we get a summary that takes five paragraphs instead of two sentences. Not unless Firn wants to try to write a two-hour timeskip, and I think that that'd end badly. Additionally, do we want to spill all of Mami's issues to Madoka? I don't know if Madoka has realized yet that Mami needs psych support too, so I want to let her know that it's a thing, but I also want to let Madoka do that part herself. Probably grab Mami during school. In which case, let me see...

Grief privacy instead of just leaving the room:
  • So Mami knows we're still right there
  • We can see out of it so no chance of getting caught
  • It's not important that Kyubey doesn't hear it, but it's working toward the state where we just randomly throw up grief privacy sometimes to fuck with him

[x] Group hug.
-[x] Thank Madoka for warm fuzzies and help.
-[x] Use group hug as opportunity to ship MadoHomu. Get them on the inside, slip out at the end so they're they only ones hugging, something like that. Payback.

[x] Drop timestop
-[x] Poke Sayaka on telepathy. Ask her to text her crush.
--[x] If asked for reason, you're making sure everybody's good for the night and wanted to add him to the rounds but didn't have his phone number and figured it'd be better to let her do it anyway.

[x] Ask Madoka for a private aside.
-[x] Grief privacy.
-[x] Confess Mami feelings.
-[x] Summarize issues; you won't dump entire thing out of respect for privacy, but you'd like it if Madoka could help her the same way she's helping you.
-[x] Ask for advice.

How does that look?
 
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-[x] Check that Hitomi is fine via telepathy. If asked, give as reason that we just wanted to check in before bed.
We haven't even had dinner yes. Maybe we can ask Doka to check how Sayaka and Hitomi are doing? Else just don't make excuses; we've already checked on Hitomi earlier so we're just gonna look paranoid either way.

What about Nagisa, Kyouko and Yuma? We could text Shin asking to talk with Nagisa just because; we can ask how she liked today and all.

[x] Ask Madoka for a private aside.
-[x] Grief privacy.
We should go to another room, grief or not, else the other Kanames might walk into us and see magic.
 
We should go to another room, grief or not, else the other Kanames might walk into us and see magic.
The Kanames are, on one side, upstairs running a bath that we can hear, and on the other side, out drinking and have to come in through the front door. We've been listening for them since we started this conversation because even a couple words overheard could be nasty.
@Vebyast kill the privacy device. It's pointless and a risk factor.
I gave two reasons it's useful right there.
We haven't even had dinner yes. Maybe we can ask Doka to check how Sayaka and Hitomi are doing? Else just don't make excuses; we've already checked on Hitomi earlier so we're just gonna look paranoid either way.

What about Nagisa, Kyouko and Yuma? We could text Shin asking to talk with Nagisa just because; we can ask how she liked today and all.
You're right, Hitomi's connected to telepathy and can call for help. Edited.

Kyouko and Yuma are MGs and can again call for help.

Asking Doka to talk to Sayaka doesn't get to Kyousuke unless we ask her to relay, which needs an explanation because it's unusual.
 
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We believe it blocks incoming telepathy. That sounds like a great idea when we're trying to confirm safeties via telepathy. It isn't pointless, you're right. But no.
That's... fair. I guess. We're the default emergency person to contact, and it'd take an extra thirty seconds to get into timestop if it's "fail to contact Sabrina, fall back to Mami, Mami becomes disconcerted, either we notice or she works up courage to ask Homura for timestop" instead of "contact Sabrina, Sabrina asks Homura for timestop". I can almost sort of maybe see those thirty seconds getting someone killed.

edit: Also, look at the alternative, from Mami's perspective. If we just leave the room instead of putting up grief privacy, it's something that she and Homura aren't allowed to hear but Kyubey is.
 
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That's... fair. I guess. We're the default emergency person to contact, and it'd take an extra thirty seconds to get into timestop if it's "fail to contact Sabrina, fall back to Mami, Mami becomes disconcerted, either we notice or she works up courage to ask Homura for timestop" instead of "contact Sabrina, Sabrina asks Homura for timestop". I can almost sort of maybe see those thirty seconds getting someone killed.

edit: Also, look at the alternative, from Mami's perspective. If we just leave the room instead of putting up grief privacy, it's something that she and Homura aren't allowed to hear but Kyubey is.
What're Homu and Mami supposed do while we practice confessing?
 
Fine, fine. If this blows up in our face I'm not going to be happy about it, but sure.

[x] Group hug.
-[x] Thank Madoka for warm fuzzies and help.
-[x] Use group hug as opportunity to ship MadoHomu. Get them on the inside, slip out at the end so they're they only ones hugging, something like that. Payback.

[x] Drop timestop
-[x] Poke Sayaka on telepathy. Ask her to text her crush.
--[x] If asked for reason, you're making sure everybody's good for the night and wanted to add him to the rounds but didn't have his phone number and figured it'd be better to let her do it anyway.

[x] Ask Madoka for a private aside.
-[x] Confess Mami feelings.
-[x] Summarize issues; you won't dump entire thing out of respect for privacy, but you'd like it if Madoka could help her the same way she's helping you.
-[x] Ask for advice.
There's some stuff in there I could disagree with but nothing major.
Short summaries? No need to write out the details, but some things that look minor to you may not actually be minor.
 
Mami can teach Homu how to hug good. Homu's really not good at it, while Mami's got a lot ofpractice recently.

Imagine Doka's disappointment when she gets Homuhugs and they're just... subpar.
You don't get HomuHugs, you give Homu hugs.
And we've been feeding her so she's not all skin and bone! Ha! Foresight!
 
It sounds like we're deliberately keeping Feathers a secret from people who need to know that there's a threat to everyone's lives out there, while focusing on what's at best a tertiary concern. It's fiddling while Rome burns, and the worst thing if that most of you know it's a bad idea, because the best excuse you can give is that you're too tired to do the right thing.
 
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