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[x] Calmly and levelly: Sayaka, if I had told you immediately... What would you have done? I was worried that you would've contracted under duress.
Nobody should have to do that, Sayaka. No one
more. We
want your help, Sayaka. You're brash, hardheaded, and you tunnel vision too easily, but you're also courageous, willful, focused, strong, and possessed of the sort of iron moral compass that meguca
should have but generally do not. But to ask for your help at that time, knowing that you might do something as permanent as making a contract
under those conditions... Can you see how that might be immoral?
-[x] And
no, I'm not defending not telling you afterwards. Just at that specific time.
[x] if Mami wants to get rid of the glass, suggest that maybe between the two of us, we could fix table-chan.
[x] At some point in all this, telepathically thank Mami for bearing with this whole thing.
[x] Tell Hitomi that we fully anticipated the request to meet with O&K, and that we can go whenever.
[x] Telepathy Oriko and Kirika. We've told Sayaka and Hitomi, and they want to come over to talk to you. Ask for permission to tell them things about...their lives and reasons for contracting. If they're not willing, we won't.
[x] On the way or before leaving as convenient, tell Sayaka and Hitomi about Oriko and Kirika. Their wishes. Their reasons for wishing- their backgrounds.
-[x] Including how Kirika's wish messed with her head.
[x] Explain that Oriko is currently suffering problems with her wish. There should be a professional in town soon, but without that treatment is... Difficult. We've done what we can for the associated physical symptoms (pain relief ring), but she doesn't currently have access to her magic.
[x] Request that both of them remain on best behavior for the meeting. No repeats of Mami's apartment,
no matter what. You accepted their surrender, and as such you feel that you have a duty to provide care for them and to not do them violence so long as they do not breach the terms.
-[x] If people ask, anger is fine, violence is not. Neither would be making attempts to provoke violence.
No. of Votes: 15
Kaizuki
aeqnai
angelofwhim
cmwatford
CornyBones
ctulhuslp
Demojay
Gadjo
mistfist
Muramasa
Nele
RagnorakTres
Sereg
SpeckofStardust
Unitveras
[X] Nod to Hitomi.
[X] Sayaka,
how could you have helped? Because I was afraid you would've made a Contract. Under duress, for revenge, even. That would've been beyond bad, for you. Wishes can mess with your mind.
-[X] But there's no more danger of that, is there? Sayaka, for what it's worth, I'm glad you're in our side. As far as I know you, you're nice, brave, and have a moral compass most Magical Girls simply
lack. How
will you help?
[X] If they want to meet Oriko and Kirika,
we can go anytime except tomorrow during our trip.
We could go right now if they want.
[X] If we go
now...
-[X] Before going anywhere, tell Mami we want to try repairing the table later, if she hasn't already got it covered, so she shouldn't throw away the glass.
--[X] Telepathically thank her for bearing with all of this.
-[X] Actually, there's something you need to hear before you meet them. What I said about Wishes messing with your mind? Kirika
greatly admired Oriko and specifically wished to help her. Her Wish satisfied her desires by changing her into someone that could do that. That included strengthening her admiration for Oriko into love and devotion so strong as to be outright fanatical.
-[X] Most magical girls survive their lives of continuous violence and betrayal only by maintaining paranoia and defensive reflexes well into the domain of PTSD. Kirika has all of that plus she'd be protecting her Ojou. Please, get as angry as you like, but
don't threaten her or start anything physical.
-[X] Update
O&K and Homura on Sayaka&Hitomi meeting.
Ask them to please collaborate, and to try
not to needle the girls unnecessarily.
-[X]
Ask Sayaka and Hitomi if they
want to know some facts about Oriko before meeting her. If yes, tell them all the
public things:
Oriko's mom died some time ago, her
dad raised her as well as he could... and was recently
found to be using his political position to
falsify funds. Instead of facing punishment or trying to protect his daughter, he
suicided, and a lot of angry people took out their anger on Oriko. Which leads to the Oriko of today.
-[X] By the way, we've got Oriko to admit her actions were wrong and unjustified, so
don't exactly expect her to defend herself from accusations.
No. of Votes: 5
Onmur
Hannz
Karnewarrior
MrLZRS
TheEyes
[x] Sayaka, you were in the
hospital. Anyway, there's nothing a normal person could have done in a fight like that. And I didn't want you to be forced into a contract by tragedy or anger. You didn't even know the true nature of Soul Gems back then, and Kyubey would gladly have taken advantage of that.
-[x] Sayaka, I'm glad to have you as a teammate and a friend. You're hardheaded and reckless, but you're also brave and kind and determined. But I didn't want you or
anyone to get tricked into this life without understanding the consequences. And I wouldn't want anyone to do so in exchange for a wish made in hate.
--[x] Wishes are extraordinarily powerful things - they can warp reality
itself... including the mind of the girl who makes them. Not always, but wishes for revenge or retribution... they rarely end well for anyone.
---[x] I'm sorry I didn't tell you about this sooner, but I wanted to protect you. And then once you made a contract anyway... well, it's not an easy thing to talk about. I wanted to wait until the weekend to bring it up.
[x] Ask Mami to keep the broken glass. Between the two of us, we
might be able to fix Table-chan.
[x] Tell Hitomi and Sayaka that we anticipated that they might request to meet with O&K, and we intended to take them, but if we do, we have to know that they aren't going to lose their temper and do something rash. I know they've wronged you a great deal, but they've surrendered and abusing prisoners is not acceptable behavior.
-[x] If Sayaka tries to claim that she would never do such a thing, reply that she should tell that to Table-chan. Human bodies are just as fragile, and much harder to fix.
[x] Telepathy Oriko and Kirika. Include Homura,
so she knows what's happening.
[x] On the way or before leaving as convenient, tell Sayaka and Hitomi about Oriko and Kirika. Their wishes. Their reasons for wishing- their backgrounds.
-[x] In particular, note
that Oriko made her wish while suicidal, so her precognition mostly shows her ways to get herself killed, so there's a chance that she might try to rile you up to get you to attack her. Also note the mental effects Kirika's wish has had on her. She's normally a model prisoner and even friendly and helpful, but if she thinks you're threatening Oriko, she'll become violent, and once that happens containing her again will not be easy. Let's not go through that again with a normal human in the crossfire, please?
No. of Votes: 3
The Narrator
Duskwitch
UbeOne
[x] mr skeltal
No. of Votes: 3
Redshirt Army
AuraTwilight
Matou Sutegobana
[x] Pull back to regroup (metaphorically)
[x] Tell H&S that meeting up with O&K is in the cards and something you were hoping to work into everyone's schedule. However, before that, let's all just take a breather for a moment.
[x] Excuse yourself, and go to the balcony to relax.
[x] Telepathy O&K.
-- [x] Tell them that the talk was mostly a success. Hitomi and Sayaka are volatile, so please, let's try to keep things calm if and when they show up.
[x] Contemplate briefly the notion of all things magically working out in your favor with basically no effort.
[x] Put your game face on and go back inside
[x] To Hitomi: I thought that you might. I'll try to schedule some visiting hours for this evening.
[x] To Sayaka: No, you couldn't have helped. You were hospitalized for smoke inhalation, and even if you hadn't been, what would you have done? Homura brought an honest-to-god belt-fed
machine gun to this fight. You had a softball bat. I had my leg nearly taken off by a homemade bomb, and it took an hour to heal with magic. If that had happened to you, you would have bled to death. The only way you could have helped would have been to become a magical girl, and I was
not willing to let you sell your soul for the sake of revenge. We know that Kyubey must have been in your hospital room that night, tampering with your parents' memories. He would gladly have taken advantage of your situation to trick you into a contract. Would you really want to have doomed yourself to this life of battle and grief for a wish made in hate?
No. of Votes: 1
Crasian01
[X] Tell H&S that meeting up with O&K is in the cards and something you were hoping to work into everyone's schedule. However, before that, let's all just take a breather for a moment.
[X] Excuse yourself, and go to the balcony to have a cigarette relax.
[X] Telepathy O&K.
-- [X] Tell them that the talk was mostly a success. Hitomi and Sayaka are volatile, so please, let's try to keep things calm if and when they show up.
[X] Contemplate briefly the notion of all things magically working out in your favor with basically no effort.
[X] Put your game face on and go back inside
[X] To Hitomi: I thought that you might. I'll try to schedule some visiting hours for this evening.
[X] To Sayaka: No, you couldn't have helped. You were hospitalized for smoke inhalation, and even if you hadn't been, what would you have done? Homura brought an honest-to-god belt-fed
machine gun to this fight. You had a softball bat. I had my leg nearly taken off by a homemade bomb, and it took an hour to heal with magic. If that had happened to you, you would have bled to death. The only way you could have helped would have been to become a magical girl, and I was
not willing to let you sell your soul for the sake of revenge. We know that Kyubey must have been in your hospital room that night, tampering with your parents' memories. He would gladly have taken advantage of your situation to trick you into a contract. Would you really want to have doomed yourself to this life of battle and grief for a wish made in hate?
No. of Votes: 1
AramilOniasha
[x] Abstain
No. of Votes: 1
Vebyast
Total No. of Voters: 29
