just so you know, last I checked, they we're properly Capital G God level omnipotent.
So the're more like Anthropomorphic Personifications?
uhhhh could you define anthropomorphic personifications?
A human shaped manifestation of a force or concept, for example, the Grim Reaper is the Anthropomorphic personification of Death.
Yes and no. The Concepts are weird. Madokami is Hope itself. That is her domain and power, but she also showed a few pretty broad, but not absolute, abilities to manipulate the world in general. Homucifer is weirder. Pretty much all we saw of her was her reshaping the Universe to her liking, but it's unclear just how much control she had after the initial shaping, or how deep it went.
yeah, that's them.
Greed isn't emotional if his Prime Directive is "milk this for MAXIMUM GRIEF wherever possible and damn the torpedoes." That's just him following programming that places any chance at immediate higher profit over sensible, stable returns.
Madokami is The Law of Cycles. She get's called a goddess of hope, but she's really closer to the "goddess of witches not being a thing".
As far as actions go, wiping out the Incubators is definitely a case of "and absolutely nothing of value is lost".
To be honest, Homura seemed to need the Incubators for some reason or another.
Homucifer did have a reason to keep them around though, one that I'm worried that we might be forced to deal with as well. Something has to be done about Humanity's natural tendency to produce Grief monsters like Wraiths, and Homucifer used the Incubators for that.
Honestly, we can try and find a workaround if we're ever in a position where that's relevant.
I'll agree with that, and the solution my freinds, Is obvious.
Massive Satanic temper tantrum.
Madokami was exactly that. She was the personification of "Witches are killed before they are born" which prevented Witches from existing in the Wraith world. That's what the Law of Cycles was. Homucifer...was not. She was just a normal person who managed to bring herself up to deity level powers because her wish allowed her to redo her meeting with Madoka and be the one to protect her. Since Madoka was essentially a god, the wish went to its natural conclusion and allowed Homura to fulfill it, which involved breaking the Law of Cycles into two pieces and rewriting the universe to allow Madoka to be "protected".
She's gonna get her hugs, and she's gonna like it!
I'll check transcripts, but it's during the conversation with it when she asks why it's so keen on the law of cycles showing up immediately before her witching.
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It's all good. Props, you argued it well, even if I disagree.This would be one of the possibilities that I couldn't think of, although I'm not sure whether "Ascenson via Karmic Rebalancing" should count under deus ex machinas. While it's baseless conjecture at this point, I will concede that it's just as much a possibility as restructuring the system itself to work without witches with what we currently know (which is slightly more than zilch).
I honestly have no actual argument against this, so I can put it up alongside the other alternate interpretations that completely undermines that portion of the argument. We have no real idea of what "potential" is beyond an arbitrary narrative value (certainly you'd think Homura would've had a lot more potential given her ironclad willpower if that interpretation is true), but it's supported by just as much evidence as the Alien Ethics theory and you could measure that in teaspoons, so no real argument to be made there. Honestly I actually think it fits better thematically than Alien Ethics, but I've made my bed.
The rest of it is also pretty well-reasoned; I can't argue that they are perfectly valid. Looking back, we certainly can't argue that Kyuubey's behavior around Madoka is a special case and then make generalizations regarding its behavior around Sabrina when she is also a special case.
(I also agree with the bullshit thing, but the Doylist perspective shall not avail us here, and so we must try to fit the puzzle together with the pieces we are given. Even if it came in a blank white cardboard box, half the pieces are missing, all of the rest are perfectly square somehow, and I think one might actually be a cheez-it.
EDIT: Crap, I forgot to actually address @FlatlineAskari's argument directly. Oh well; my response to Onmur basically covers what I would say in light of what Redshirt Army said. Hope you don't mind!
