Does the bandit camp to the north of Horra's compound still exist? Cause we should probably go mop it up after this is done if its still around.
 
hooo boy, there is a lot.
lets get to it, then....

First, on the scarcrow and filling it: as it ran out of fuel and lost its commands... we could put it in our soul and fill it there, using it as a kind of worker spirit. Its an option, but understandable if we don't do it.

"I can do it." A wicked smile spreads across her face as she rises to her feet. "A chance to screw Horra over? The only thing I desire more is his head."
Who DOESN'T like to screw Horra in any way, in this Vales?
"Besides," she continues, eyes full of glee that undermines the visage of a refined old lady, "you'll be learning how I did it here in a bit."
NGL, but i assume this really helped, especially after the news about Ironjaw.... May he survive whatever The Enemy's setup is for, that got him to kill Rainmaker.
A growl eventually slips through his lips as he turns his gaze to the ceiling. "When it rains it fucking pours."
yeeeep, it usually does work like that.
"You're telling me," Dorri's eye twitches, "that there was evidence that could've gotten Horra not only fully outlawed, but actively hunted down?"
ooof, poor Dori...
"Fuck me running," Logi sighs as he runs a hand through is burning hair, "that's the only thing that this fuck's," he flicks a limp-wristed point at Dorri, "been talking about ever since you brought the case to him. I had a chance to Finally shut him up for good and I fucking wasted it? Gods. Damn. It."
LOLOLOL
Gues Logi lost a composure roll there, huh? :V
"Logi," Dorri blinks, "the fuck."

"Alright, listen," Logi holds up his hands as Dorri scoffs, "I can explain."

"You better have a damn good one for that stunt."
Ah, yes, old friendships...
Hopefully Halla can get them too.
"Once, the Hading had three-hundred and eighty people living in it. Then the Yellow-Eyed Troll, Drysalt, emerged." He's distant now, eyes locked to the middle-distance. "When Hasvir killed its master, there were barely forty left. Men, women, and so many damn children... It took two weeks for it to destroy the Jarldom, for it to kill the Jarl and his entire family. We thought it dead with its master."
oh...
oh my...
That IS a big deal, alright.... Guess we should ask around for more gossips and stuff, that newcomers can't hear and stuff? Its also a good thing to keep in mind, if we ever relocate....
The air grows heavy with power as Weight sets the chains to rattling. Dorri rises to his feet, the tension in the air rising with him. The fire flickers wildly before the pressure extinguishes it. A light trail of smoke floats up as it casts the room into a murky darkness.

"Halla Longstride, I offer you Ship and Sail to take this quest."
oh, this is big, if weight is involved... and a whole ship....
Not just basically, that is exactly what he is offering you as a reward.

Specifically, he's offering you a Snekkje. A proper, actual warship.
*golp*
haha, what the hell Dori....
It's more that they're stupid expensive. So expensive that you could spend the entire proceeds of a couple raids on purchasing one.

Horse and Sword. Ship and Sail. These are the traditional rewards for quests, the prices paid to hire a Hero.
Huh... interesting... but yeah, understandable. at least 53 human and 1 elephant daurgr....
...we just got had, didn't we? :V
Have you ever heard the tale of Sigurd the Dragonslayer?

It's not a story The Enemy would tell you
oh... So its that big for sword and horse too?
...

The hell kind of thing is it that Horse and Sword is more valuable than Ship and Sail?

Unless we're talking about some wild ass shit in both events.
i mean-
Maybe it's a matter of degree
yeah, this. Sword and Horse for hunting down a pestsingular threat for the community, Ship and Sail for something that would fuck over the whole fighting force of said community?
After all, if the Daurgar army strikes, everyone will see them and if even one gets away.... then, tha'ts nightmares for everyone that will fuck over the whole fighting force....

Makes you wonder what the quest to kill Dry Salt would be...
Further note, after I did a little bit of re-reading;

The Horse in question was called Grani, a descendent of none other than Sleipnir

Honestly, in comparison to Gram and Grani, Ship and Sail is looking a bit lackluster lmao
.. oh my god.
its a good thing everyone is a cultivator, huh? so, these things are somewhat cheaper... or should be...
I'm pretty sure that Christian cultivators in this setting are always suffering from Sin because doctrinally it's something you can never fully purify yourself of.

I figure it's the functional equivalent for them of the 'impurities' you see in classical xianxia settings; you're always trying to expel it and you obsess over doing so but that doesn't mean you can be done.
*clears throat and starts in a high note and the most annoying cadence possible*
But i thought jesus died for all of our sins! :V

Joke aside, that's a good idea. it might be guilt for holding back too.
Now why Cristianity you might ask, well because Cristianity preaches forgiveness turn the other cheek and all that, an usually it actually works. To me this would be the ideal solution to the whole Horra situation, not converting to Cristianity but to use the teaching we got from the bible to forgive Horra and his family and stop all the blood feuding right here.

But i also understand that this will never happen, not because is think that the questers are too blodthirsty, but because as kind a man as Jeremus is our bible teaching was more focused on converting us to Cristianity by showing awesome Jesus is than actually sharing philosophy on forgivenss and all that.
hm... Wolfind's son just married Horra's daughter, did they not?
What if... what if we bury the hatchet with a marriage of one of their kid with one of ours?
i know, i know, "why would we want that?" and the answer is to end the cycle. Kinslaying is a big no-no, and we only have a beef with Horra, and from the looks of it, not even his family likes him.
...You gotta wonder how he survived with 30odrenskarp though. like, does he has Dreng that somehow kept up with the odren to keep him alive?

But anyways, marrying the two family would help to mitigate it at least.... and, well... its either finding a partner to our daughters or someone asking for them anyways.
This, too is just an option though.
 
There's also a very Viking response to this issue.

We go to where they are, we declare what we have done (possibly taking some time to go full-on poetic about his crimes) and we invite them to take their shot if they feel so inclined. Like, "I'm not attacking you, but if you want revenge, here's your chance."

First of all, it seems like the sort of thing that's pretty darned dreng all by itself. Second, if they are feeling vengeful, then backing down from something like that is going to smack them around a bit with nid... and dropping nid on people who hate you is always a good thing. Third, it gets it all out there in the open and possibly has them attacking us on the spot rather than waiting and coming after us later.

The downside is, of course, that it has them attacking us on the spot rather than waiting and coming after us later. If it turns out we can take them, that's great. If it turns out that we can't... not so good.
 
Hmm

Given the bodypop incident with Hasvir Horrason,

If we later find out that there exists a real not-a-fleshpuppet Hasvir Horrason, can we kill them as if they were an outlaw?

If Horra can indeed do the memory shenanigans thing, then.. Could even his grief and rage be false?
 
Huh... interesting... but yeah, understandable. at least 53 human and 1 elephant daurgr....
...we just got had, didn't we? :V
Steinarr is absolutely coming along for this ride. We'll be fine.

Hmm

Given the bodypop incident with Hasvir Horrason,

If we later find out that there exists a real not-a-fleshpuppet Hasvir Horrason, can we kill them as if they were an outlaw?
They weren't declared outlaw, so no.
 
hm... Wolfind's son just married Horra's daughter, did they not?
What if... what if we bury the hatchet with a marriage of one of their kid with one of ours?
i know, i know, "why would we want that?" and the answer is to end the cycle. Kinslaying is a big no-no, and we only have a beef with Horra, and from the looks of it, not even his family likes him.
...You gotta wonder how he survived with 30odrenskarp though. like, does he has Dreng that somehow kept up with the odren to keep him alive?

But anyways, marrying the two family would help to mitigate it at least.... and, well... its either finding a partner to our daughters or someone asking for them anyways.
This, too is just an option though.

I'm against trying to force any of our kids to marry anyone. That's more likely to enforce the feud than end it if they hate each other and either mistreats the other. We can add their kids to our playdates list and try and make sore they're friends, though. That has potential if we can get agreement on the idea.

There's also a very Viking response to this issue.

We go to where they are, we declare what we have done (possibly taking some time to go full-on poetic about his crimes) and we invite them to take their shot if they feel so inclined. Like, "I'm not attacking you, but if you want revenge, here's your chance."

I'd like to combine this with the 'common enemy in Drysalt' thing and suing for peace, personally. Like "Listen, I have no quarrel with you going forward and would be happy to end our feud here and even help you find the monster who took your brother. But if you're not interested, we can go right here, right now."

If we later find out that there exists a real not-a-fleshpuppet Hasvir Horrason, can we kill them as if they were an outlaw?

No, but it's been noted that Horra's kids no longer count as related to everyone in the valley, so if we kill them and cop to it (especially in self defense) we aren't fighting the whole valley like we were with Horra.
 
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Is Wolfwind the kind of guy who would laugh or go into berserk rage if we, hypothetically, told him

"Oh, actually my grandfather suggested I cut off your head, pop off the charge, then put your head back on."
 
I'd like to combine this with the 'common enemy in Drysalt' thing and suing for peace, personally. Like "Listen, I have no quarrel with you going forward and would be happy to end our feud here and even help you find the monster who took your brother. But if you're not interested, we can go right here, right now."
Hmmm...

If we want to be especially nice about it, we can even offer to pay wergild. Like, the dude was outlawed, so we don't have to, but he was still their dad, right? We could offer to pay it anyway. Again, paying wergild that you aren't legally obligated to pay in order to try to end a revenge cycle feels like the sort of thign that would be pretty dreng.

@Imperial Fister - How would that sort of offer be taken? What kind of wergild would even be appropriate for, say "Horra, but not an outlaw"? Is it even remotely within our ability to pay, or does this fail instantly because we couldn't offer anything more than a relative pittance?

Abjorn actually translates as 'Terror-Bear'. The name is appropriate.
He's a horrible bear-bear, and we love him.
 
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Just started reading this.
Welcome to the party!
Our husband-to-be is named 'Not A Bear'. That seems curiously specific.
I have a bit of fun with the names ;P
@Imperial Fister - How would that sort of offer be taken? What kind of wergild would even be appropriate for, say "Horra, but not an outlaw"? Is it even remotely within our ability to pay, or does this fail instantly because we couldn't offer anything more than a relative pittance?
Like, 40oz silver seems pretty reasonable to me. Now, that doesn't mean that they'll be reasonable about it, but such is life.
He's a horrible bear-bear, and we love him.
The biggest of lugs gives the biggest of hugs
 
He's a horrible bear-bear, and we love him.

I feel like this a reference to something and it's tickling my brain but it's not quite clicking. It's also entirely true of course.

Like, 40oz silver seems pretty reasonable to me. Now, that doesn't mean that they'll be reasonable about it, but such is life.

Huh. Yeah, we should definitely offer that as part of the suing for peace. We can afford that much.
 
I think I heard of something that basically translated into Bear Bear Bear, maybe Bjorn Bjornson the Bear or something.

Abjorn's just such a great teddy bear.
 
Woah, woke up to some good shit. The interaction between Logi and Dorri was especially enjoyable.

We can certainly pay weregild, and hopefully they see resson and take the reasonable offer rather than charging us ruinous prices.

As for the warship... it's cool and all, but our sailing socks and we don't have anyone to man it other than our huskarls and Abjorn. Kind of awkward, lmao.
 
I'm against trying to force any of our kids to marry anyone. That's more likely to enforce the feud than end it if they hate each other and either mistreats the other. We can add their kids to our playdates list and try and make sore they're friends, though. That has potential if we can get agreement on the idea.
yeah, that sounds a lot better, honestly, if we are lucky they will get together on their own.
 
Veny is an unknown, as we barely know anything about her.

However, the other three Horrasons we know hate our guts, so I'm not sure if conflict is avoidable with them.

*A finger on the monkey's paw curls.*



Eyvor gets seduced by some random Burisson's kid ;P

Eugh, Hel no. The worst ending. Unless he's actually a good person, and good for her.

And yes, I'm aware it's a joke, but I'm fully willing to kill all of those guys (Horra's children included) if they pose a threat to our children.
 
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Would rather not have our children have anything to do with the Horrasons honestly.
i mean, there is still 5 kids coming, so... there could be other daughters, not to mention friendship is good enough for me between the kids. the marrige is more for stopping the blood feud.
...and Horra's daughter might have girls on her own, so its still on the table....
*A finger on the monkey's paw curls.*

Eyvor gets seduced by some random Burisson's kid ;P
...i mean, that would put a stop on another blood feud so...
 
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