NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
- Thread starter I.F. Ister
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- norse mythology (mythology) original xianxia cultivation western cultivation ask sirihand did your mother tell you anything? discussion pleases yggdrasil farming gloating gets people killed granary management hubris is a coward's word you will die norsemen do not die when they are killed the qm has a bad memory the qm is bad at math viking courtroom drama (legal drama) vikings
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- Mid-Atlantic
Possibly. On the other hand, Horra may have a lot of leverage to bring to bear against her.
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- Bretonnia
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- He/Him
Horra should've had no knowledge that we were on his farm, though, so why would he have pressured her?
If she is there and tries to do anything about it, then shes dead and thatll be up to Wolfwind to resolve.
Itd be stunningly dumb of her
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- Bretonnia
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- He/Him
By way of a tragic accidental stumbling face first into Sagaseeker, I presume
Edit: By design we're going to limit the scope of this assbe-
She knew about Drysalt
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Also, keep in mind, the question is how she knew the Owl was Halla.
Shroudsight might let you see through stealth magic, but it's not Soulsight, she shouldn't have immediately deduced this to be someone she'd never met before.
Well, unless Folkmarr told them about this, which is going to leave him really eating all the shit.
Shroudsight might let you see through stealth magic, but it's not Soulsight, she shouldn't have immediately deduced this to be someone she'd never met before.
Well, unless Folkmarr told them about this, which is going to leave him really eating all the shit.
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- Bretonnia
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- He/Him
I mean, we'd have to actually deal with the draugar first. If Veny happens to spot our fylgja...
Well, I dunno, to be honest. Either she doesn't say anything, or she tells on us to... who? Her brothers? But we'd be long gone by then.
Nah, she needs to die.
Full stop, she aided and abetted whatever the fuck Drysalt was up to with his games with Horra. If she could spot and ID Hallas owl, theres no way she wouldnt have noticed that various bullshot Drysalt apparently got up to on Horras homestead
She's a Problem
Let alone missed that her brother had been replaced by a form shifted meat puppet controlled by someone else
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Oh shit.
Her perception is that good, she has Shroudsight apparently that lets her pierce disguises and stealth magic.
And she didn't say a damn thing about Hasvir being killed and replaced apparently.
Yeah, good odds that she's in cahoots with Drysalt then, which makes this very much make sense, since Drysalt's game appeared to be 'Generally sap the strength of the Valley'.
Reignite Horra and Steinarr's feud, manipulate Horra into funding all the major assaults that are killing and stealing from people in the valley, Steinarr charges in and kills Horra regardless, which gets everyone charging him, and when that fails, make sure that Horra gets enough information to turn the debate into a shitshow where nobody wins. The whole point was to use Steinarr as a proxy to get most of the Valley's strongest tired and wounded, then sweep in to dunk on the survivors.
So, this suggests the "Kill and replace" never actually happened and it was a straight up "Replace, but everyone deletes their memories to make it look convincing and Hasvir is actually fine." Or Veny was actively helping Drysalt.
She had no way of reliably killing Halla's Fylgja, because we had flight and lots of speed. The most ratting us out would have done was spook us. She had no way of guaranteeing a kill, so she let it go and then later told Horra so he knew we were working against him.
Again, the suspicious thing is "How did she know the Owl Fylgja was Halla's", there are very few people outside of our inner circle who know Halla's Fylgja, and the only one who might have talked was Folkmarr. Unless she's secretly got another backer who could scry it or otherwise find out.
Her perception is that good, she has Shroudsight apparently that lets her pierce disguises and stealth magic.
And she didn't say a damn thing about Hasvir being killed and replaced apparently.
Yeah, good odds that she's in cahoots with Drysalt then, which makes this very much make sense, since Drysalt's game appeared to be 'Generally sap the strength of the Valley'.
Reignite Horra and Steinarr's feud, manipulate Horra into funding all the major assaults that are killing and stealing from people in the valley, Steinarr charges in and kills Horra regardless, which gets everyone charging him, and when that fails, make sure that Horra gets enough information to turn the debate into a shitshow where nobody wins. The whole point was to use Steinarr as a proxy to get most of the Valley's strongest tired and wounded, then sweep in to dunk on the survivors.
So, this suggests the "Kill and replace" never actually happened and it was a straight up "Replace, but everyone deletes their memories to make it look convincing and Hasvir is actually fine." Or Veny was actively helping Drysalt.
She had no way of reliably killing Halla's Fylgja, because we had flight and lots of speed. The most ratting us out would have done was spook us. She had no way of guaranteeing a kill, so she let it go and then later told Horra so he knew we were working against him.
Again, the suspicious thing is "How did she know the Owl Fylgja was Halla's", there are very few people outside of our inner circle who know Halla's Fylgja, and the only one who might have talked was Folkmarr. Unless she's secretly got another backer who could scry it or otherwise find out.
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- Mid-Atlantic
I mean, she's been living with him for many years and he's had countless opportunities to pressure her on hundreds of different things. It's quite possible that she's internalized that she 'has to' do things a certain way around him, even if she doesn't like the way he does things. Horra's probably not a very good parent, y'know?
Orrr she could totally be working for Drysalt and that's totally 100% possible and I'm not ruling it out.
But if, hypothetically, she were innocent, it would be very plausible for her to share information with her own father without any clear benefit to herself and without believing that it was objectively good for him to do well and for his enemies to suffer reverses.
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- Bretonnia
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- He/Him
I think the Hasvir we saw at the farm was definitely Hasvir, since he was using Hugareida (?) and everything. At the very least, he was doing stuff that a simple puppet shouldn't be able to do. Halla also noted that the Hasvir at the trial was different from the Hasvir we saw on the farm. That still leaves a lot of questions, though. Such as 'where is the real Hasvir, then?','when was he replaced with a puppet?', etc.
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Or maybe it was Hasvir himself controlling the puppet and she is his accomplice. Maybe they don't even work for Drysalt, but they have their own agenda. Like getting rid of Horra and take the farm for themselves.
Damn, we are all becoming conspiracy theorists aren't we?
Congratulations to Imperial Fister for creating such an engaging plot.
Damn, we are all becoming conspiracy theorists aren't we?
Congratulations to Imperial Fister for creating such an engaging plot.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
It might have happened recently, the waterballoon's hair was off compared to the previous times we've seen him. Still, unless it happened literally on the way to town, she would have had a chance to see it and sound the alarm.
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- Bretonnia
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- He/Him
That's true. So, what, for some unknown reason she works with Drysalt to pit Horra and Steinarr against eachother, and then blindside the Valley when Steinarr inevitably went nuclear?
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Drysalt wants Steinarr to hit Horra at the right time, but without the right cause. Because that way, Steinarr provokes a coalition to hit him, and the damage inflicted in the crossfire makes conquering the Valley easy.
We effectively neutered that by revealing that bit of information at just the right place, and at just the right time, to get the old guard on high alert and expose Horra to an attack-without-reprisal. Then we read him like a fucking book and cornered him outside of his immunity areas.
Drysalt's easy win is off the table now, and he has to actually fight for his bread.
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- Bretonnia
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- He/Him
I mean, yeah, that's what I said. I wonder who is behind Drysalt, though? Logi mentioned that he had a master last time, so someone has to be leading him again unless he has a personal stake in destroying the Hading this time around. Considering trolls don't have empathy and all that, he wouldn't care about revenging his master/completing his work.
'Hey, Blackhand? How old were you when you fought Hasvir, and were you a Saga Cultivator at the time? Was Hasvir strong?' @Imperial Fister
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Possession I think, remember, the Troll we tricked said it was "Very Un-troll like behavior"
Maybe he works for the Enemy?
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- Bretonnia
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- He/Him
The Enemy should have no reason to spend resources on getting the entire Valley destroyed, though. He could've just had him jump us.
Right, I forgot about that. Although this still means they have a personal stake in destroying the Hading... which doesn't really narrow down who it could be at all.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Do we know for sure that Hasvir Horrason is *actually* dead?
We don't have a body.
Hell with how things have been going on I would have doubts even if we had a body.
Hey Blackhand,
1) Should the Hasvir bodypuppet-thing be something Shroudsight should have been able to pierce?
2) Did Horra Hasvirson seem like.. I don't know, like he was regenerated or brought back from death somehow?
We don't have a body.
Hell with how things have been going on I would have doubts even if we had a body.
Hey Blackhand,
1) Should the Hasvir bodypuppet-thing be something Shroudsight should have been able to pierce?
2) Did Horra Hasvirson seem like.. I don't know, like he was regenerated or brought back from death somehow?
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Not at all, it's entirely possible his death has been faked. But our next move doesn't change regardless.