After thinking about the possible reward of Kyber frames, I'd like to ask for some clarification on those. It seems like the pros of having them would be to have something the size of an AT-type walker with substantially more firepower and the speed and reflexes of a force user. A machine of that type would surely be able to do a lot of damage to normal troops (high firepower thanks to blazing chains, able to dodge or deflect anti-tank weapons while being too big to take out with anti-infantry weapons) but I'm not sure whether they'd be even remotely useable against force users, since most of them can't be taken down with projectiles , and it's too difficult to hit a target smaller than oneself in melee. With that being the point, would those be usable in the final coup against Sidious at all? Because if not, I'm inclined to think they would not be worth it. Mechs are not subtle, and the Abyss Watchers already have devastator tanks, which are less versatile, but won't require force-users to Pilot and have a surplus of firepower, which makes them more than suited as a nuclear option to wage war against troops without force-users. Ofc the frames would be better, but not enough to make them worth an action and lots of money, unless my estimations are wrong. The clarification I would like to ask for is the following: Is there some use for the kyber frames I'm overseeing and, if not, is there some way to salvage parts of cheris' idea into something more suited to Ciaran's needs?

Fair points, but I'd point out that Coruscant is a highly vertical and urban environment meaning that while the Devastators would be effective it'd be more difficult to move them to where they need to go. A mech (name pending) would have much less issues with that since you could strap on jump jets or something similar.

Or to put it simply: Devastators are really good at their one thing, but only at their one thing. A mech would be much more versatile though not as specialized as a Devastator.
 
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If you can put rockets on a mech you can put them on a devastator. A 3-4m power armour might be useful in an urban environment. A 10-12m giant robot is useless anywhere.
 
If you can put rockets on a mech you can put them on a devastator. A 3-4m power armour might be useful in an urban environment. A 10-12m giant robot is useless anywhere.

You can't just slap rockets on a tank, it's the whole aerodynamics thing. Besides Star Wars does tend to make streets and urban areas quite wide and vertical, a mech is perfect for traversing the street levels.

Fair points, but I'd point out that Coruscant is a highly vertical and urban environment meaning that while the Devastators would be effective it'd be more difficult to move them to where they need to go. A mech (name pending) would have much less issues with that since you could strap on jump jets or something similar.

Or to put it simply: Devastators are really good at their one thing, but only at their one thing. A mech would be much more versatile though not as specialized as a Devastator.

Basicslly the Devastator is the King Tiger. A nightmare for anything armoured and almost nothing conventional can damage it, but it's also heavy and slow and thus can't manoeuvre quickly.
 
About mechs one from RL:


and one from the Internet:

The point is "Ciaran original mech™" won't be "groundbreaking" like some specialised vehicles, like AT-ATs (lol) but overall it's performance might be good enough in many fields: more mobile than Devastator, but not as manuverable as AT-ST, stronger then a solider, less armored than AT-AT (lol), etc., etc.

Just sain'
 
The point is "Ciaran original mech™" won't be "groundbreaking" like some specialised vehicles, like AT-ATs (lol) but overall it's performance might be good enough in many fields: more mobile than Devastator, but not as manuverable as AT-ST, stronger then a solider, less armored than AT-AT (lol), etc., etc.

I don't know about the AT-ST maneuverability, I mean it was tripped up by a bunch of logs. The 'Sair Mech' is less a typical walker and more an extension of the pilot's body, so in theory, they should be more aware of their surroundings.
 
I don't know about the AT-ST maneuverability, I mean it was tripped up by a bunch of logs. The 'Sair Mech' is less a typical walker and more an extension of the pilot's body, so in theory, they should be more aware of their surroundings.

This is what I'm thinking of with the Abyss Mechs.
 
This is what I'm thinking of with the Abyss Mechs.
Since it's something that's growing out of Cheriss' research for her own frame, I'd expect it to be a bit less clunky than that; her inventions seem to to share a pretty futuristic streamlined sort of look. The chunkiest I could see these things getting is an Iron-Monger (Stane's suit from the first Iron Man movie) sort of look.
 
Are y'all complaining about mechs in a setting that is basically WWII in space with instant self-mutilation devices that are lightsabers?

If you're going to complain about practical weapons in Star Wars mechs are definitely not the place to start, like Snowspeeders? What kind of lunatic keeps a Harpoon on a cold weather flier for a Rebellion on the run?

The Kyber frame is fine as a weapons platform, plus I'd feel much more comfortable in sending Ciaran to fight Palpatine if she started the fight in a Force empowered mech.
 
Nah, this has evolved beyond the practicality question, now it's about wether or not researching it is worth the action (personal opinion: no, unless there's an upgrade that makes them efective against force users). On a related note: Didn't some people plan to put the lava crystal into one of the improved blasters?
 
(Omake) A Link To The Blast (Canon)
A Link To The Blast

I'd been training on Blazing Chains with Rondaes and had gone through multiple sets of training dummies and a ton of blaster energy. "All right. That's enough, gimme a minute." I stared at the training dummies. "So you've thrown multiple blasters at a time at me, multiple different angles, an autofire blaster. I've heard the Teepo Paladins can deflect blaster bolts with other blaster bolts. Which gives me an idea."

Rondaes stared at me. "Another one of your ideas?"

"Hey, I might be on to something here," I replied.

"More like on something," she replied with a smirk.

I blew out a breath, called on the Force. It answered, ready as always. I fired a shot into the air and caught it, sent it into orbit around myself. "Go ahead, Rondaes."

She fired at me and I brought the bolt I had on an intercept course with the first. If I remembered pool from back on Byblos right, both bolts would bounce off each other and modify each other's vector. They'd told me it wasn't normal to compute the vectors in my head, but I just saw the lines they'd take and went from there. I have a funny feeling the Force was involved, but if I was doing it so well it was unconscious, I'd continue to not think about it and just do it instead.

Sure enough, the first bolt bounced off the second and both went into the floor. Was there any practical use here? Probably not yet.

"Hmm. Limited by maximum range. Could carry a heavy repeating blaster pistol and just keep it handy, but I'd have to refresh the orbiting bolts. Could arrange some kind of device to carry a brace of sniper rifles so I can keep a bunch of those in orbit, but even those don't last forever, both on range and ammunition."

I grinned. "Wait a minute. What if...what if I put together the biggest power generator I could find to power a Ground Buzzer with the auto-targeting set to droid energy signatures and attached that to a bunch of armor, shielding, and a set of repulsors?"

Rondaes rolled her eyes. "You'd have a target. A big ugly target."

"A big ugly target that could fire 12 shots per second, which is probably up near the Force-boosted reaction limit. A big ugly target that would be hard to kill and that could throw a lot of rounds downrange," I responded. "Come to think of it...didn't we just start building STAPs back at by the droid factory?"

It was amazing how much fuss throwing around General Grievous' name would get you. I'd headed down to the Rush-Box, where a man named Ruslan Sovium led a team of engineers whose job it was to put together ideas that need a practical version immediately, and told them that Grievous' squad wanted one. Well, that was true from a certain point of view.

I got the call that it was ready within about twelve hours. It looked like they'd applied a coat of paint to it, about the pale-yellow color of the inside of a bone. "Thanks," I told the lead tech.

"We do a lot of crazy things in Sovium's Rush-Box. Today we put a speeder on a gun. If we don't end this war, the war will end us," the tech said. "Now get to it."

I looked at the thing. It was big. Maybe twice my height and three times as wide, covered in slabs of armor with a blaster cannon hanging from it. I climbed on and looked at the cockpit. Yes, cockpit. There were only about three or four gauges on it: one for remaining reactor power, one for managing the shields, and one for the gun. "You've tested it?"

The tech nodded. "You sure you're not a weapons designer? This thing is nuts, and I'm going to have Ruslan bring it up at the next advisory meeting. It isn't some sort of fast attack speeder. You're basically flying an armored-up shielded-up gun. Does this particular bit of madness have a name?"

I grinned. "It's an Equus-class personal speeder." Finally, those High Galactic classes over at Byblos were going to be useful. My own personal little joke about the call-sign Grievous gave me.

I flew the thing down the hallway into my training room and flipped the targeting over to manual, drawing upon the Force before firing at a pile of empty supply boxes for one second, focusing on redirecting as many shots as I could before powering down the gun and looking at the results.

Six of the shots had gone straight where the cannon was aimed. The other six had hit six other boxes. "Huh. I wonder what Master Tyro would think about this? Probably that I'm not quite up to speed. Then again, the auto-targeting will cover the other half when we hit the Foundry...oh, right, and when we go after anything belonging to the Seps."

A/N: Cross a Heavy STAP with the A-10 Thunderbolt and Blazing Chains. This particular little bundle of crazy has been bouncing through my head for the last week and I could finally let it out.
Also, yes, now the Reaper rides a 'pale horse'.
 
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The good General approves! Others might think he has been with Grievous' unit for a bit too long and went native.
Oddly enough, Riphath was bugging me that he hadn't done any actual medicine since his first omake and it was about time he got back to that. To that end...if we can get our hands on some cloning resources (data, facilities, specialists), I might have something.

Partial cloning as a means of restoring limbs. It's more expensive than cybernetics, not to mention graft vs host questions and the like, but if you're not crafting whole people you don't have to deal with clone madness (unless you do a la Evil Dead) so you could probably get it done pretty quickly. If you're not cloning a brain and a heart to begin with there's no ethical questions (you're basically just making some very fancy very personalized prosthetic limbs). It has the side effect of also providing an infinite supply of ethical meats for consumption (or sale!).

I have some of my best crazy/brilliant ideas while washing dishes, apparently.
 
Just a heads up that I am in fact still alive. IRL has been particularly stressful lately and it's been throwing me off my game a bit. But enough about me, let's talk quest stuff instead!

What accent does Ciaran have? American or British?

I'd probably err towards an American accent, though she can fake a British one very well at this point.


...Yeah, I can see the Star Wars A-10 being a thing. Canon, +10.

In the Abyss Watchers, is there another kind?

Yes? I'd go so far as to say we don't have any drunk scientists. Because we are fucking professionals.

Weeeellllll on the clock they are, but have an average scientist take one look at the Blaster Bits or Cheriss' Kyber Frame or her proposed mech design and there's a 70% guarantee they'll go straight for the bottle.

Anyway, as penance for my delay, have the opening for the next interlude.

"Hello Obi-Wan~"

"...How did you get this comlink frequency, Lady Ciaran?"

"Not important. I want you to train me in Soresu."

"...Why."

"Reasons. Come onnnn, it'll be grea-"

"No."

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"Hey. Hey Obi. Train me."

"The answer is still no. I am quite busy as you're well aware."

"Don't be such a killjoy. I'm sure you can find enough downtime to train me, or I could just follow you around for a bit-"

"No."


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"Obi-Wan Kenobi, I hereby wish to train under you so that I may learn Form III."

"Would you stop calling me!"

"Heeeey, I had to spend a whole minute composing that formal request in my head."

"...You're not going to let this go are you."

"Nope~ ...But I am serious about this. I do want to learn Form III and you're the best practitioner of it I know."

"...And if I refused again...?"

"Look, Obi, I'm of the mind that you really need to relax and take a vacation. I have resort tickets with your and Satine's names on it! ...Or was it yours and Siri's? I forget which one it was...Ah well it's not that important, right?~"

"...That is a low blow, Lady Ciaran."

"Well, you know me, I don't like playing fair~"

"...Right. I'm likely going to regret this, but very well, I'll train you when I have the time."

"Excellent! Maybe you can bring Siri along and-"

"That is - hmm...actually not a bad idea all things considered."
 
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