Thanks for putting all that together! I especially like all the intelligence opportunities on Corscant.
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May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)
- Thread starter Dr. Snark
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- star wars canon what canon tsundere dice ck2 quest actions have consequences all the credits all work and no play makes ciaran a dull girl best sister capitalism ho! despairing qm teetotaller society member gotta catch 'em all insanity looting off the rails sage dice approaching spicy sheev tsundere asajj
Panory
The Omake Dragon
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- New York
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...You have my attention.
On one hand, I have a half written conversation between Ciaran and Maul. On the other hand, beach episode...
Out of curiosity, what makes it 'Great'?
This feat alone qualifies them for most secretive Dark Side sect.
It's basically the Jedi Encyclopaedia of knowledge. With topics ranging from lightsaber construction and the unedited version of Galactic History to debates on resisting the Dark Side. Not to mention Jedi Masters have a habit of adding their own bits of research to the holocron, including the Prophecy of The Chosen One, Mace Windu's instructions on Vaapad and Kit Fisto's techniques in waterproofing lightsabers.
Of course, though it's easy to access, it's difficult to use and even Master Yoda struggles not to fall into the mysteries it holds.
- Location
- Australia
Beach episode! Also, I think you should scrap the conversation. If it's at all possible, I want to make sure Maul never even knows about Ciaran aside from what's publicly known.
EDIT: I mean, write it if you want, but I'm going to ask Snark for it to be non-canon.
EDIT2: That sounded a bit assholey too. Sorry. I really don't want to impede your creative activities, especially since you always write entertaining things, but at the same time, Maul and Ciaran meeting is not something I want to actually happen.
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Fair enough, it's mostly the Arkanians who think we're the best. For everyone else, I was mostly anticipating our 'Grand Theft Bacta' Intrigue action -- when Karada is responsible for ending the bacta monopoly and making the galaxy's best miracle cure available for dirt cheap to everyone, you better believe we'll be the best thing since sliced bread. Still, that hasn't happened yet, so I fixed the original phrasing.
I figured that would, yeah. The University grounds apparently has statutes of the two Founders, a mental image I find hilarious -- the one founder is a normal-looking human, the other a massive 'Star Dragon' between 10 and 100 meters long....
Many, many things. As far as I know, it's the only dodecahedral holocron, because it wasn't made by a single User but made for the entire Jedi Order to contribute to, and the best Jedi from each generation add knowledge from their specialty. Most of what's listed on the wiki is historical stuff (encounters with different Sith over the generations), but there are a few instances where a Jedi develops a new skill and adds it to the Great Holocron. Plo Koon added his whole light-side Force lightning technique ('Electric Judgment'), while Mace Windu did the same for the Vaapad lightsaber form. Imagine that steady drip-drip-drip of new skills and techniques, sustained over 25,000 years, and you get The Great Holocron.
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It's Jedi Wikipedia.
The Great Holocron is the Jedi version of the Telos Holocron, except considerably larger and, ironically, much less user friendly.
Although how we'd gain access is the big question, it's rather well guarded.
Although how we'd gain access is the big question, it's rather well guarded.
Sheev Palpatine, ironically enough, makes a perfectly reasonable and polite Guardian. He also cleaned up the indexing and updated it all to modern terminology.
Not really sure why, honestly it might just be his hobby.
deadcrystal
Slaaneshi Cultist
- Location
- The Warp
Ashoka was already a great character and now she's getting even better.
You know, I'm fairly sure Grievous cemented his position as Kalee Legend several [Insert Ludicrous Thing]s ago, he doesn't need to keep doing it.
Not just Savage, no no, Savage Oppress. 3edgy5me
Not...all the way, but there are definitely similarities. Maul is a full on proper Sith (Former Sith now, obvs), with all that entails. He is full of rage but manages to keep that as a power source rather than going pathetic Sith crybaby with it. ( *cough* Malak *cough*)
It...could actually be useful for us. Maul is ridiculously dangerous, so just having an obvious enemy to draw Dooku and Palpatine's attention could be quite the thing. Maul is both a very dangerous combatant, and an intelligent manipulator. (Rebels did a good job showing just how dangerous he is, what with completely trashing a few Inquisitors (Read: Dark Side Adepts), showing the difference between a Dark Side user and a Sith. He was also very proficient at controlling the situation and getting people to do what he wanted)
I have to say, even with that absurd roll I don't think we're going to actually recruit Anakin. I'd place it as more making it impossible for Palpatine to recruit him, and shoring up his personality so he doesn't go off the deep end. So he's more secure in himself and his beliefs, feelings and choices. Manipulating him to be less manipulable, as it were
Maybe give him the strength to admit that he doesn't agree with the Jedi on all things, and even if he isn't to turn on them he won't let them tell him what is right and wrong, and that he can't have a relationship with someone he loves.
Ciaran will never stop trolling.
Ya, Anakin is surprisingly proficient in a lot of non-jedi mundane skills.
Grievous u r gr8
I don't think Asajj agrees with all of Vectivus's opinions and views on the force, but despite that he was still an important part of her reaching new resolutions, so I can buy that as a reasonable name. I dunno, she's complicated. She isn't a Sith anymore, but she is a Dark Side user, and she's pretty different to Ciaran.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
Things I think are relevant to Ciaran building herself a proper lightsaber here:
- Asajj's own skill in building lightsabers
- Vectivus for the same
- Lava crystal she picked up a way back
- I believe we actually still have the Darksaber sitting in the Vault?
But using proper construction knowledge, complete with snazzy crystal and possibly modelled at least partially after the preposterously old Darksaber would be hella rad.
HK might be fond of using meatbag as an invective, but that doesn't mean he'll be inaccurate.
I expect he'll still use other weaponry, but backup stuff is always good.
HK-47 - Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope... Love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticule, and together, achieving a singular purpose against statistically long odds.
The best definition of Love. Ever. In all time.
I kind of expect with her new found skill Cheriss will make herself a fresh body. Her current improved body is nice and all, but she understands things much better now, plus force-friendly cybernetics research would probably help make it even better.
Okay, for next turn we really need to get Ciaran doing some training actions. Personally I'd like to get her doing the pilot training, she already has survival training, and adding on to general proficiency is a good thing. Obvs getting Blazing Chains beyond just the basics would be good, and Shatterpoint is an obvious thing to look into.
I'm not exactly into Star Wars minutia but I did some cursory googling on Saber forms and I'll admit I don't really see the attraction of Form III, it doesn't seem like a good match for her, idk, I could be convinced. Looking into that sect that uses force lightning and getting that for her would also be a good. I mean, she needs some more classic dark side abilities beyond Force Choke and Dun Moch.
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Form III is the best for survival, which is necessary for Ciaran to not instantly die the moment Sidious attacks her like those Jedi Masters he killed in Episode III. Furthermore, Form II is specifically meant for lightsaber duelling, not for dealing with blasters, so Form III will make her more effective at dealing with the most common weapon in the galaxy. Finally, learning Form III will make her a better fighter overall.
Force Lightning is a generic technique and so Ciaran cannot learn it. Dun Moch is a Sith technique but it's not a Dark Side ability because it doesn't use the Force at all.
lordchaos99
(I have left SV)
It's a generic ability so she auto-learns it.
The power of it simply scales to her Lore.
But there will never be an action to really learn the ability and master it like 'Evil-Talk No Jutsu' or 'baby banthas are cute'
The power of it simply scales to her Lore.
But there will never be an action to really learn the ability and master it like 'Evil-Talk No Jutsu' or 'baby banthas are cute'
Given that Sith Lighting is the iconic Sith ability and Ciaran is quite proficient in Sith teachings, I'd be surprised if she didn't know it. I'd just advise against trying to out-lightning Palpatine.
I also don't see Lighting being part of Ciaran's go to abilities unless she's intentionally showing off as a Sith Lord for some reason.
She seems to like smashing things with telekinesis to be honest, plus for terror she can shatter...damn near everything actually.
I also don't see Lighting being part of Ciaran's go to abilities unless she's intentionally showing off as a Sith Lord for some reason.
She seems to like smashing things with telekinesis to be honest, plus for terror she can shatter...damn near everything actually.
ConfusedPotato
Unverified Verifier
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Ultimate terror mode, shoot lightning at things, apply telekinesis to the shatterpoints of things you just shot at, laugh evilly.
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This is only for techniques which aren't faction-specific, like Telekinesis and Force Jump. Generic techniques specific to Jedi or Sith are out of her reach.
She knows Force Phantom because that was the one unique technique present in Vectivus' holocron, but that's it. Sith Lightning is generic and thus she would not know it.
I don't think so, generic Jedi techniques will definitely be in her repertoire thanks to the Dantooine Holocrons and a Sith Holocron typically everything one needs to be a Sith, assuming said Sith doesn't intentionally dick you over.
They're just things not worth specifically mentioning.
Why on earth wouldn't she have the standard abilities after studying the general teachings?
Dovahsith
Lost on the road of life
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Mixture of reasons really. Having a backup form is always handy, not to mention it's the endurance form, which means its training always helps when you are stuck in a prolonged and tiring fight for your life against an angry and thwarted sith lord.
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
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- She/Her
She's already great at Form II, and couples that with the use of telekinesis and blasters. She's not as good as Dooku in terms of swordsmanship, but she has tricks up her sleeve to make up for that.
Makashi has difficulty with defending against ranged opponents though, which Soresu can easily handle. Both stress efficiency of movement too, so Form III wouldn't be as difficult for Ciaran to study compared to say, Juyo, Dyem-So or Ataru.
Makashi has difficulty with defending against ranged opponents though, which Soresu can easily handle. Both stress efficiency of movement too, so Form III wouldn't be as difficult for Ciaran to study compared to say, Juyo, Dyem-So or Ataru.
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lordchaos99
(I have left SV)
Form 3 is The Defense form, aka something we desperately need in a fight against a WTFOMGBBQ PWNAGE monster like Sidious.
Total Defense + Anti-Lightsaber is a pretty good combo to play defensive while our pet Chosen One, cadre of Jedi Councilmembers and Hero Units whittles down his HP
Total Defense + Anti-Lightsaber is a pretty good combo to play defensive while our pet Chosen One, cadre of Jedi Councilmembers and Hero Units whittles down his HP
Who says it will be a matter of HP attrition? Lightsaber duels tend to end at first hit.
And we do not know if bringing in the Jedi will be feasible at all. The stability of the Republic in the aftermath may necessitate that Jedi are not involved in any way. I for one would like to avoid the newly decapitated Republic army from launching a retalitory strike on the Jedi. Our plan to kill Sidious cannot be contingent of us removing him from his Chancellor position.
lordchaos99
(I have left SV)
HP doesn't necessarily mean actual physical hits. Taking out his contingencies or working him into an untenable situation could both be considered HP whittling. Either way, when we have all the pieces in play the countdown begins and we need to Tank like the Hulk. We are the main rival for Sidious, we are his first target.
How did I not know about this?!
Good point! I'll add it to the list of Hero Actions.
I'm pretty much where you are. Sidious is ludicrously good at lightsaber combat -- it's not just that he killed three Jedi in a matter of seconds, it's that he killed three Jedi Masters, who had been chosen by Mace Windu specifically to take a Sith Lord into custody. We could invest time in learning Form III, but we'd need to dedicate a lot of time to it to get good enough to defend against Palpatine, and that's time we wouldn't be able to use for other things.
My preference is to spend that time developing out-of-context Force skills that Palpatine wouldn't expect or have a counter for. Palpatine is good at lightsaber combat? Don't give him the chance! Snipe him from distance with Blazing Chain, keep him off balance with Fallanassi illusions, pick apart his weak points with conceptual shatterpoint, borrow Zieson Sha telekinesis to surround him with a whirling dervish of sharp things, destroy his footing with physical shatterpoint, and move faster than he can possibly follow with Matukai physical enhancement.
Palpatine has prepared his whole life to fight a Jedi. Let's not match his expectations.
OTOH, this is a pretty good argument -- if Soresu is our best bet for dealing with blasters & ranged attack, it might be worth picking up, especially if it meshes easily with Makashi.
...Pretty sure @deadcrystal was referring to the Baron Do Sages:
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@Dr. Snark, I'm not sure if you saw this earlier, but I thought it was a good idea. I went back and added a brief description to each omake title. Would you be willing to change the threadmarks titles to match these?
EDIT: on second thought, with the more descriptive titles, I'm not sure the numbering is needed. You can get rid of the "Pt. __" from each if you prefer.
While I was doing that, I had a thought -- my omake on the Anti-Palpatine Senators doesn't really fit the rest of the 'Briefing the Boss' series, since it's not part of the galaxy survey. Since I'm planning on other similar omakes (related to Borvo's criminal empire, Clan Skirata, Palpatine's Inner Circle per @Stealthy's list, etc.) I figured it'd be better to make it the first part of a different series.
This one was originally "Briefing the Boss Pt. 3":
Unfortunately that threw off the numbering for the other two. This was originally "Briefing the Boss Pt. 4":
And "Briefing the Boss Pt. 5":
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Don't. A Cheriss Hero Action that's about making her body better is already present in the form of Continued Frame Development. An additional action would just be a duplicate.
The whole reason why we're going to fight Sidious isn't because it makes any kind of sense for us to personally fight him, but because Dr. Snark wants to make our final fight with him as dramatic and typical as possible. Thus, lightsaber fighting will be a major component of the fight whether we want it to be or not. I agree that we should pick up as many unorthodox techniques to use against him as possible, but we shouldn't let our lightsaber skills fall to the wayside because they are what we will use the most.
We have a whole Force style all about blasters. Don't think we need Soresu for that.
Stealthy
Reverently Irreverent
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Form III was initially devised for blaster fire, because Form II wasn't good at it, but also grew into all around excellent defensive lightsabering built to survive and outlast rather than attack and kill. Surviving long enough to not lose is, like, exactly what we want for taking on Sidious. Mix defensive survivalist lightsabering with all the Force tricks and the dueling focus of Makashi is a solid combo.