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May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)

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Publicola said:
The Trade Federation likes us, but they've been in Palpatine's pocket since long before we came on the scene. If someone has suggestions for leverage we might have to draw the Trade Federation out of the war, I'd love to hear them, but I can't think of anything.
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Nute Gunray did not like working with Sidious. The Trade Federation has no desire to work with him, but they have no better alternative. If we want to pull them out of the war, all we have to do is offer ourselves as a viable alternative. Our reputation with them is rock solid, we have a history of making mutually beneficial agreements with them, and we have enough military power, political power, and intrigue power to protect them if need be.

Also we are very rich and this will make them very rich as well. The Trade Federation can be easily led around with the promise of credits.
 
Publicola said:
I meant, we don't have a way to pull the Trade Federation out of the war, not like we did & do for IGBC and Commerce Guild. The Trade Federation likes us, but they've been in Palpatine's pocket since long before we came on the scene. If someone has suggestions for leverage we might have to draw the Trade Federation out of the war, I'd love to hear them, but I can't think of anything.
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"Hey Nute, are you tired of being constantly threatened by a Sith Lord with horrible, unending torture from which death is no escape? If so I can totally give you a new face, identity and a retirement on a luxury planet surrounded by nubile wenches."

Heck, we could probably pay for him to retire in safe luxury somewhere in Hutt space.

Although why we'd want to do this I don't know.
 
Why did you guys constantly get Nute Gunray off considering what he did to Naboo and his attempted assassination of Padme, I think he still holds an grudge ever since.
I thought there's some omake/interlude about him vowing revenge on Padme as he try to climb his way back to power in the original quest.

We only got some benefits out of it like droids and credits which does not make them crucial to our plans.
Honesty I could care less about the Trade Federation, more than happy to cut them down size since they being with Palpatine for a long time or destroy them.
 
Jrin said:
Why did you guys constantly get Nute Gunray off considering what he did to Naboo and his attempted assassination of Padme, I think he still holds an grudge ever since.
I thought there's some omake/interlude about him vowing revenge on Padme as he try to climb his way back to power in the original quest.

We only got some benefits out of it like droids and credits which does not make them crucial to our plans.
Honesty I could care less about the Trade Federation, more than happy to cut them down size since they being with Palpatine for a long time or destroy them.
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If I recall correctly Hego Damask paid Ciaran a lot of money to do it first, then the Trade Feds kept paying money to the person who kept them out of prison.

Basically they're a reliable and well paying customer, plus it's bloody funny how much Naboo loves Ciaran despite the fact that she's helped it's ravager go free and has pillaged it just for the fun of it.
 
Jrin said:
Why did you guys constantly get Nute Gunray off considering what he did to Naboo and his attempted assassination of Padme, I think he still holds an grudge ever since.
I thought there's some omake/interlude about him vowing revenge on Padme as he try to climb his way back to power in the original quest.

We only got some benefits out of it like droids and credits which does not make them crucial to our plans.
Honesty I could care less about the Trade Federation, more than happy to cut them down size since they being with Palpatine for a long time or destroy them.
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For one, it was amusing, also, looking at the origional thread, the omake you referred to doesn't exist. Also, you seem to forget that we were the ones who provided the advanced scouting that allowed the invasion of Naboo to occur in the first place. Said job lead us to turn 5, which propelled us onto the global stage. Why should we consign them to oblivion after what they have done to assist us?
 
Jrin said:
Why did you guys constantly get Nute Gunray off considering what he did to Naboo and his attempted assassination of Padme, I think he still holds an grudge ever since.
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Because the Trade Federation paid us an absurd amount of money to do so and the contacts that job earned us have bought us more political power than just about any other deal we've ever made.
 
Remember Borvo? He's still wanted on Naboo too, for taking advantage of the invasion to try and sell people into slavery.

Just wanted to add a little perspective.
 
Jrin said:
Ah my bad, must have thinking something else.
Actually I can accept her Naboo thing but Nute Gunray? Does he still have problems with Padme?
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I think it is more likely the inverse is this case. Nute is a coward by nature, and with how hated he is on Naboo (burned in effigy and had TF offices be burned down by angry mobs.) I doubt any amount of credits would be enough for him to ever personally set foot on said planet. Padme, however, has reason to hold a grudge, but you need to realize that compared to most of Naboo, she would be considered merciful.
 
Bones said:
Remember Borvo? He's still wanted on Naboo too, for taking advantage of the invasion to try and sell people into slavery.
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Is he? I know that's what he was up to in canon, but didn't we meet him before the invasion proper, before he got involved in that side of things? He still owns/operates a black market on the planet -- we invested in it during the planet's recovery, iirc -- so he shouldn't be persona non grata even if he was involved in the criminal underworld.


I totally agree with @Jrin about Nute Gunray. I never understood why folks were so insistent on helping him escape justice. I remember we did get paid quite a bit of money to help prepare the invasion, but I don't remember receiving any money from getting Gunray off on charges. And it wasn't even good for our reputation gain; our current "9/10" is a much more recent development. Too late to change it now, though.
 
XenonPrime said:
I don't doubt he will, I just fear his method will be something like set up a peace treaty signing somewhere, with us hosting it due to our trusted relationship across both sides or whatever and then trying to arrange our assassination in such a manner that the Republic, CIS and CNS all think the others did it, sparking an even more ferocious three way war.

Now, I'm sure we could survive most things, even possibly Dooku, and even if not we've experienced the echo of Nihilus' power, we might be able to cling to some shadow of life if needed.

But, uh, I'd prefer if Darth Sidious didn't get creative, I half expect him to drop a space ship on us one of these days.



I'm gonna laugh so hard if we end up basically in control of the Republic centred on Taris. It'd be a charming return to form though, the Republic vs the Sith Empire.
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well that sounds familiar doesn't it?
 
Publicola said:
I totally agree with @Jrin about Nute Gunray. I never understood why folks were so insistent on helping him escape justice. I remember we did get paid quite a bit of money to help prepare the invasion, but I don't remember receiving any money from getting Gunray off on charges. And it wasn't even good for our reputation gain; our current "9/10" is a much more recent development. Too late to change it now, though.
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I think that involved getting a big in with the Confederacy due to the upcoming Clone Wars. Another was that Gunray got off all the charges even in canon, so most players believed it would be better to metagame canon for our advantage. Also, it would be easier to manipulate a known pawn than have a complete stranger not in our debt potentially derail canon. Removing Gunray would just replace him with another pawn that could be much more dangerous and competent. Palpatine would make sure that the war occurred no matter what and if he has to use someone more dangerous, than so be it.
 
If we want to work on personal shields, it might benefit us to ask the clone commandos if we can study their armour. Their armour has built-in deflector shields which is what we want.
 
I have a few ideas that we may work as options for the following turns, most of them are military realised, basically because I believe the CNS will eventually have to fight against Sidious, if he want to take over the galaxy as he did in the Revenge of the Sith, he needs to destroy the CNS first,

We already have established a militia program to protect the CNS, and we have established a training regime and a chain of command, but we should establish a standardized equipment, for all the militia, if we do not do it, the quality of their equipment, weapons, and armor would vary too much, making them less effective

We should get more vehicles for the CNS. Don't get me wrong, Decimators are great but we need more variety of vehicles. For this we can
-Get the designs of the Republic vehicles (that with our contacts inside the army shouldn´t be too difficult) and reverse engineering them
-Hire an independent weapon producer to design them and use those

We should try to make these worlds join the CNS, Honoghr (Noghri), Kashyyyk (Wookies) and Iridonia (Zabraks) all of them enter in the Proud Warrior Race type, and to have them will come very handy if/when the bullets start firing

Try to recruit Quinlan Vos, or at least contact with Tholme about him and offer a safe extraction for him. He is strong (In legends he defeted Sora Bulk, the co-creator of the Vaapad variant of the form VII), he is already thinking in abandon the Jedi Order (to raise his child), trained as an spy by what could be considered the best Sentinel of the Jedi Order, and has Psychometry one of the best powers that an spy can ask for.

We should Keep training the Makashi, either by using Holocrons, or by searching for a trainer (I´m thinking on you Corellian Jedi)

What do you think about them? Are they workable @Dr. Snark ?
 
Fanhunter696 said:
We already have established a militia program to protect the CNS, and we have established a training regime and a chain of command, but we should establish a standardized equipment, for all the militia, if we do not do it, the quality of their equipment, weapons, and armor would vary too much, making them less effective
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I disagree with you on this point and all other points regarding doing anything to the CNS military. Doing anything requires actions, actions we could be using to do something else.

Instead, if doing any of that stuff is the right idea, I think we should have Jango do all that. We will make him the CNS's military head like we made Satine the diplomatic head, then he can do all the military stuff the CNS requires without us having to spend any actions. Just like how we're getting planets into the CNS without having to spend an action every single time.
 
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Andres110 said:
Instead, if doing any of that stuff is the right idea, I think we should have Jango do all that. We will make him the CNS's military head like we made Satine the diplomatic head, then he can do all the military stuff the CNS requires without us having to spend any actions. Just like how we're getting planets into the CNS without having to spend an action every single time.
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I agree with @Fanhunter696 that we should work with the CNS military, but I have to say I really like this idea. Not sure how well it'd mesh with turning Jango into another Hero unit, but if Dr. Snark wants to use Jango this way instead (and, say, let us recruit Talesan Fry...!) I think I'd be up for it.

Fanhunter696 said:
We should get more vehicles for the CNS. Don't get me wrong, Decimators are great but we need more variety of vehicles. For this we can
-Get the designs of the Republic vehicles (that with our contacts inside the army shouldn´t be too difficult) and reverse engineering them
-Hire an independent weapon producer to design them and use those
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We actually have another option -- we own a Baktoid Armor Workshop factory on Neimoidia, that's able to produce most combat vehicles (and is already programmed to build most Trade Federation & Techno Union products. Dr. Snark has previously told us:
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As for the heavier vehicles, it's more of the fact that there's really not a good way to get them off of Nemodia without raising a lot of questions. You might need a better presence to figure that out. (Hint, hint.)
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So the most direct route to upgrading our forces with vehicles (especially, upgrading our droid squads with vehicles -- speeders, transports, tanks!) is to build a base on Neimoidia.


Fanhunter696 said:
Try to recruit Quinlan Vos, or at least contact with Tholme about him and offer a safe extraction for him. He is strong (In legends he defeted Sora Bulk, the co-creator of the Vaapad variant of the form VII), he is already thinking in abandon the Jedi Order (to raise his child), trained as an spy by what could be considered the best Sentinel of the Jedi Order, and has Psychometry one of the best powers that an spy can ask for.
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I'm definitely in favor of this, but it really depends on what @Dr. Snark has to say.... Certainly he'd be an amazing recruit if we could nab him, though.
 
Publicola said:
Not sure how well it'd mesh with turning Jango into another Hero unit
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Maybe we can talk him into letting us hire Boba? The kid was working jobs with the likes of Asajj Ventress before the Clone Wars even ended, so he's already very competent, and that's before taking into account the extra training he'd have received from Jango in this timeline than in canon.
 
Andres110 said:
Instead, if doing any of that stuff is the right idea, I think we should have Jango do all that. We will make him the CNS's military head like we made Satine the diplomatic head, then he can do all the military stuff the CNS requires without us having to spend any actions. Just like how we're getting planets into the CNS without having to spend an action every single time.
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Publicola said:
I agree with @Fanhunter696 that we should work with the CNS military, but I have to say I really like this idea. Not sure how well it'd mesh with turning Jango into another Hero unit, but if Dr. Snark wants to use Jango this way instead (and, say, let us recruit Talesan Fry...!) I think I'd be up for it.
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Sorry but even if a part of me understand that to have Jango do the military stuff in the CNS, MAY be more practical than getting him as a Hero unit, I (and many other voters) would never vote for him to become the Military Head of the CNS if that can put in danger his recruitment to the Abyss Watchers, if only for the Rule of Cool

And we should have either Ciaran or Thrawn do this action next turn, so we can recruit him ASAP
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[] The Resurgent: Thanks to your diplomatic efforts at Caamas, not only has Jango become less of a boogeyman to the galaxy but the oversight on him has decreased dramatically and is due to end soon. Thrawn's put a lot of "investment" into him, it's about time you cashed in on it. Chance of Success: 60% Reward: Oversight on Jango completely ended, potential to formally recruit Jango Fett
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So here's a thought given that Jango Fett is doing Mandalor things what's Boba doing? Cause I can see a scenario where Ciaran will be left alone with Boba for an extended period of time. Also Ciaran could possibly do Kakashi mask trick with her blindfold if anyone gets curious.
 
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