Lights... Camera... ACTION!!: A Hollywood Quest

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

So we have some bad news.

The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

I'll see you all around.

With so many regards, Duke William Of.
 
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[]Debbie has a helluva comeback planned (Debbie has a plan to get her filmic come back)

Terribly tempted to get the first and third options, but I'll have to go with the second one to give Debbie a fighting chance to have greater success here like Carrie when OTL she was absent in films for the next 13 years and just had a couple of Broadway runs. Also I'm pleasantly pleased to realize I posted a Debbie Omake on Mother's Day, good timing.
 
So those scripts that keep being made, would it be worth it to sell them or are we gonna make them all?
I don't think we're going to personally do them all, but we can produce them and have them done by our stable of Directors. I can see our horror movies being done by John Carpenter if we manage to get him to work for us.

And I want us to make that Solomon Kane script I put, same with my Prince of Persia. The Main issue is that I'm not sure which Director might be appropiate for said films.
 
So those scripts that keep being made, would it be worth it to sell them or are we gonna make them all?
Movie studio's make between 1-30 movies a year depending on their size. I think we're gonna be stuck doing at most 2-3 until at least the 80's when we build up enough infrastructure, and I'd prefer us to be a bit more picky with our movies then other studios. So maybe a 6-7 maximum?

It'll take a while, but we can work through a decent chunk of scripts
 
All I am going to say is that Quality is sometimes better than quantity.

And remember how Star Wars is the biggest event in Film... everytime it release before

The Dark times.

Before the Empire.

Yeah, you can possibly get to that point.
 
[X] So... Disney hired a guy named... John? (John Carpenter has been hired by Disney for a three-picture deal, mostly because he's the only one cheap enough to be hired. To also fiance his other independent projects)
So I want to tell you something that is much bigger then you think.

John Carpenter is working for Disney...

I'm not going to tell you how it will change things, just know that Disney has... taken a huge risk.

Lets see how it pays off.
 
So those scripts that keep being made, would it be worth it to sell them or are we gonna make them all?
I don't think we're going to personally do them all, but we can produce them and have them done by our stable of Directors. I can see our horror movies being done by John Carpenter if we manage to get him to work for us.

And I want us to make that Solomon Kane script I put, same with my Prince of Persia. The Main issue is that I'm not sure which Director might be appropiate for said films.
Because of this question, I went back and checked how many scripts we had...we have (unless a missed one) 74 potential projects.

Don't know if it's feasible to make each and every single one, but I think most of them deserve a fair shake that we can tackle in the coming decades, even if they end up being incredibly austere and expiriemental.
  1. TITLE: Modern Seven Samurai
  2. TITLE: The Fenian Raids
  3. TITLE: Renaissance
  4. TITLE: The Gentleman's Club
  5. TITLE: Monopoly
  6. TITLE: Three Days in Autumn
  7. TITLE: La Maupin
  8. TITLE: Iron Lung
  9. TITLE: Monster in the Mirror
  10. TITLE: The Emerald Pimpernel
  11. TITLE: La Victoire En Chantant
  12. TITLE: A "Hero's" Journey
  13. TITLE: A Life of Lies
  14. TITLE: HOUND
  15. TITLE: Cu Chulainn: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Ireland
  16. TITLE: Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood
  17. TITLE: The Huntsman
  18. TITLE: Oversimplified
  19. TITLE: Epic History TV
  20. TITLE: Roads Not Taken
  21. TITLE: Love Spot
  22. TITLE: Dún Scáith.
  23. TITLE: All You Need is Love
  24. TITLE: Magoosius Californius
  25. TITLE: The Beatles: Get Back
  26. TITLE: Chicago by Night
  27. TITLE: The Magoose Dice of Fortune
  28. TITLE: My Sweet
  29. TITLE: Alexander Hamilton
  30. TITLE: The Elvis Experiment
  31. TITLE: Matt the Radar Technician [By the way, @RealOtto how in the ever living fuck did you predict Rick The Radar Technician?]
  32. TITLE: Evil Shall Triumph!!
  33. TITLE: A Star Wars Tale: Operation Cinder
  34. TITLE: Grimmwood
  35. TITLE: The Magoose in the House
  36. TITLE: Trouble In Paradise
  37. TITLE: Hercules: Ghost of Sparta
  38. TITLE: Ser Mordred: Heir to Camelot
  39. TITLE: Ragnar Loðbrok: Valhalla Calling
  40. TITLE: The Videssos Odissey
  41. TITLE: Moonlight Diner
  42. TITLE: Star Wars: A New Dope
  43. TITLE: Mystery Men
  44. TITLE: Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter
  45. TITLE: Tijuana Takedown
  46. TITLE: The Four Wanderers
  47. TITLE: Warriors of the Four Corners
  48. TITLE: Monstrum Season 1
  49. TITLE: World of Darkness (Working Title) Season 1
  50. TITLE: Battle of the Teutoberg Shrine
  51. TITLE: The Taxman Cometh
  52. TITLE: Mad Cow!
  53. TITLE: The Director's Cut
  54. TITLE: Star Wars: The Crack Strikes Back
  55. TITLE: Stormchasers
  56. TITLE: Conan the Conqueror
  57. TITLE: Saint Patrick's Battalion
  58. TITLE: Silver Creek
  59. TITLE: Pyroclasm
  60. TITLE: Sleepless In Miami
  61. TITLE: Fools Fly In
  62. TITLE: 最後の桜 [The Final Sakura Blossom]
  63. TITLE: A Promised Land of Cedar Pines
  64. TITLE: Children of the Night
  65. TITLE: A World of Cinder
  66. TITLE: Little Matchstick Girl
  67. TITLE: Liberty's Crystal Skeleton
  68. TITLE: Dracula: Blood Origins
  69. TITLE: Magoose Vamoose
  70. TITLE: Solomon Kane in The Nephilim's Castle
  71. TITLE: Deliver Us To Evil
  72. TITLE: Curse of the Black Pearl ( Rough Draft '75 )
  73. BONUS! TITLE: "Irish Percy Jackson"
  74. BONUS! TITLE: Rocky
I have a name for you, one of the best in the biz...

A Guy named Steve.
That'll make Dave happy.
 
The funny thing is, if John rolls high enough, he'll have the opportunity to make something amazing.
Amazing for sure, but not in brand with Disney at all. Carpenter is a master of Horror, with some Science Fiction mixed with it. Disney, right now, is all about their family friendly brand. Carpenter may make an amazing Horror film, but it will never be shown by Disney.
 
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Carpenter may make an amazing Horror film, but it will never be shown by Disney.
...

Hm...

That depends on who might be running the show at the Magic kingdom.

hint: The strike really fucked things up that its making Disney look at its family-friendly image. :V

That should tell you how bad its going to be for the magic kingdom.
 
That should tell you how bad its going to be for the magic kingdom.
"Everything the light touches... is our kingdom. But a king's time as ruler rises and falls like the sun. One day, the sun will set on my time here, and will rise with you as the new king."

"What's that shadow over there?"

"Those are Disney's dark times, never go over there."
 
"What's that shadow over there?"

"Those are Disney's dark times, never go over there."
"No, that's just John Carpenter and his friends in the Disney Dungeon, creating Bangers to supplement our family-friendly catalog with blood curling and sickening horror. Because cheap horror makes money as it turns out."

"Can I go there?"

"Only if you get through whatever Tim Burton's nightmare factory is cooking up?"
 
The Alistairian Apocrypha I: The Joruur'runi Olan:
Alistairian Apocrypha I: The Joruur'runi Olan:

The Covert was, for the first time in a long while all together, the Armorer peering over the gathered assembly and ensuring that all were present. For some, this would mark the first time that they had participated in the honored tradition of Joruur'runi Olan, and thus both a rite of passage to overcome and a sad state of affairs in the wake of the Night of a Thousand Tears, while for others it was a return to form and a test of their oratory prowess.

As soon as the assemblage before her was ready, she motioned for the procession to begin, and slowly they entered one by one into the pitch black, naught but their armor and a light by their side, before she entered last as was her right as both eldest and leader alongside the newest and youngest foundling. Together they sat in the center of the great hall, and as soon as was The Way, a stillness of every soul within the room, she began the tale.

"It begins in the century preceding Emperor Vitiate's return, when by the act of the callous Sith sorcerers created an ancient plague that haunted the Mandalore and its peoples for many, many eras as retaliation for going against the Emperor's will. It is said this experiment of theirs was unleashed upon Mandalore itself, the dread jariler'loras, a creature so named for its deire to feast on the blood and flesh of all who walk the path.

A jariler'loras was said to stalk the night, harboring an insatiable thirst for blood that could never be quenched. Its movements were quick and silent, evading even the most skilled Mandalorian warriors. It would strike its prey without warning, drinking their blood and then disappearing back into the darkness. It is said that in those days that many brave Mandalorian warriors attempted to hunt and kill the creature, but it always seemed to elude them. It was too strong, too fast, too cunning. And so this beast became legend, inspiring fear and awe in all who were unfortunate enough to encounter it. And so, the Mandalorian people were forced to live in fear of this creature, never knowing when it might strike. But they did not give up hope. Over time, brave warriors continued to hunt the beast, seeking to end its reign of terror once and for all.

The legend of the jariler'loras has continued to be passed down from generation to generation, a chilling reminder of the dangers that lurked in the galaxy, even in the darkest corners in the hopes of its eventual extermination. And though some say that the creature was eventually defeated at the hands of Mandalore the Hammerborn, there are still those who claim to hear its eerie howl echo through the night, a reminder that there are some foes truly beyond an individuals skill alone."

And with that, the Armorer took their torch and extinguished it; even as the next speaker began, she watched the foundling beside her with interest, the one who would be the last to extinguish their light and end their ceremony. For now the youngling acted with all purpose and dignity as was required, but how they handled being the last would let her know much the course of their future.


A/N: I figure Dave has written a shit ton for Star Wars, mostly in the vein of introducing concepts that would have taken a least a decade or two before appearing in OTL Legends (and most recently, Commander Rex), so a lot of fans when reading through Legends would have been like "Here's the Holy Text of George Lucas' movies, here's Dave Alistair's musings, and here's everything else that gets written about." In this case I had considered this to be a precursor to the Anzat [but specifically modeled more after wendigo and skinwalkers than vampiric mindflayers], but I leave it open to what people chose to make of this in the future.

Additionally, in this scene the Mandlorians are meant to be preforming their own version of the
Hyakumonogatari Kaidankai [which by itself is an excellent idea for both a parlor game and a horror movie], where a hundred people are meant to walk into a pitch black room in the dead of night with a candle each and then as each one finishes sharing a horror story they blow their own candle out, the goal of the game to see if everyone makes it through all one hundred candles.

Joruur'runi Olan means "The Gathering of a Hundred Souls" [joruur = gather | runi = soul (poetic) | olan = hundred].
Jariler'loras means "Fleshwrecker" [jariler = lay waste, wreck | loras = meat, flesh, substance (poetic)].
 
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Movie studio's make between 1-30 movies a year depending on their size. I think we're gonna be stuck doing at most 2-3 until at least the 80's when we build up enough infrastructure, and I'd prefer us to be a bit more picky with our movies then other studios. So maybe a 6-7 maximum?

It'll take a while, but we can work through a decent chunk of scripts

Personally my ideal movie range at least until the 90's is 4-8 movies released a year. That way we have a movie for each season and our films don't have to compete against each other unless they play to radically different demographics and come from different genres. Instead of wasting millions on popcorn schlock and gambling for a blockbuster like Hollywood is nowadays, let's shoot for quality control so that ever Lucasfilms movie, even if it's not at the top of the box office or sweeping the Oscars, is a damn good movie and that'll cement us in the eyes of the public as the Best, in other words be classic Pixar.

Because of this question, I went back and checked how many scripts we had...we have (unless a missed one) 74 potential projects.

Don't know if it's feasible to make each and every single one, but I think most of them deserve a fair shake that we can tackle in the coming decades, even if they end up being incredibly austere and expiriemental.
  1. TITLE: Modern Seven Samurai
  2. TITLE: The Fenian Raids
  3. TITLE: Renaissance
  4. TITLE: The Gentleman's Club
  5. TITLE: Monopoly
  6. TITLE: Three Days in Autumn
  7. TITLE: La Maupin
  8. TITLE: Iron Lung
  9. TITLE: Monster in the Mirror
  10. TITLE: The Emerald Pimpernel
  11. TITLE: La Victoire En Chantant
  12. TITLE: A "Hero's" Journey
  13. TITLE: A Life of Lies
  14. TITLE: HOUND
  15. TITLE: Cu Chulainn: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Ireland
  16. TITLE: Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood
  17. TITLE: The Huntsman
  18. TITLE: Oversimplified
  19. TITLE: Epic History TV
  20. TITLE: Roads Not Taken
  21. TITLE: Love Spot
  22. TITLE: Dún Scáith.
  23. TITLE: All You Need is Love
  24. TITLE: Magoosius Californius
  25. TITLE: The Beatles: Get Back
  26. TITLE: Chicago by Night
  27. TITLE: The Magoose Dice of Fortune
  28. TITLE: My Sweet
  29. TITLE: Alexander Hamilton
  30. TITLE: The Elvis Experiment
  31. TITLE: Matt the Radar Technician [By the way, @RealOtto how in the ever living fuck did you predict Rick The Radar Technician?]
  32. TITLE: Evil Shall Triumph!!
  33. TITLE: A Star Wars Tale: Operation Cinder
  34. TITLE: Grimmwood
  35. TITLE: The Magoose in the House
  36. TITLE: Trouble In Paradise
  37. TITLE: Hercules: Ghost of Sparta
  38. TITLE: Ser Mordred: Heir to Camelot
  39. TITLE: Ragnar Loðbrok: Valhalla Calling
  40. TITLE: The Videssos Odissey
  41. TITLE: Moonlight Diner
  42. TITLE: Star Wars: A New Dope
  43. TITLE: Mystery Men
  44. TITLE: Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter
  45. TITLE: Tijuana Takedown
  46. TITLE: The Four Wanderers
  47. TITLE: Warriors of the Four Corners
  48. TITLE: Monstrum Season 1
  49. TITLE: World of Darkness (Working Title) Season 1
  50. TITLE: Battle of the Teutoberg Shrine
  51. TITLE: The Taxman Cometh
  52. TITLE: Mad Cow!
  53. TITLE: The Director's Cut
  54. TITLE: Star Wars: The Crack Strikes Back
  55. TITLE: Stormchasers
  56. TITLE: Conan the Conqueror
  57. TITLE: Saint Patrick's Battalion
  58. TITLE: Silver Creek
  59. TITLE: Pyroclasm
  60. TITLE: Sleepless In Miami
  61. TITLE: Fools Fly In
  62. TITLE: 最後の桜 [The Final Sakura Blossom]
  63. TITLE: A Promised Land of Cedar Pines
  64. TITLE: Children of the Night
  65. TITLE: A World of Cinder
  66. TITLE: Little Matchstick Girl
  67. TITLE: Liberty's Crystal Skeleton
  68. TITLE: Dracula: Blood Origins
  69. TITLE: Magoose Vamoose
  70. TITLE: Solomon Kane in The Nephilim's Castle
  71. TITLE: Deliver Us To Evil
  72. TITLE: Curse of the Black Pearl ( Rough Draft '75 )
  73. BONUS! TITLE: "Irish Percy Jackson"
  74. BONUS! TITLE: Rocky

That'll make Dave happy.

Pretty sure it's 30-40, half of those are Otto shitposts.

Also I know Iron Lung is within our lineup, but to me even if it does allow Bruce to star in a one-man movie where the acting is all on him, I'm not necessarily vibing with direct involvement. I would love to be Producer to have one of Cat's works become a hit, but I think something small like this would be a great opportunity to get some small time talent behind the Director's chair and on screen to really focus on the experiment and show how small projects can succeed without star power. But if people want us to do either I guess it could be fine, filming is likely to last a month or two at most so at the very least not time commitment and we can just build a set in LA to work on it.

Amazing for sure, but not in brand with Disney at all. Carpenter is a master of Horror, with some Science Fiction mixed with it. Disney, right now, is all about their family friendly brand. Carpenter may make an amazing Horror film, but it will never be shown by Disney.

I mean in the 1980s, Disney did make Touchstone Pictures which made a ton of classic adult and mature general audience films that didn't exactly vibe with the image of Mickey Mouse. Touchstone's second most financially successful film is Pretty Woman, a story about a businessman falling in love with a prostitute. Under Eisner, Disney wasn't afraid to get involved in adult-orientated media, the problem was that all of Touchstone and other films was kept as far away from the Disney brand as possible with few exceptions so that the name Disney still means family, magic and fun. Pretty Woman, Signs, Pearl Harbor, Armageddon, Dead Poet's Society, Good Morning Vietnam, The Help are all technically Disney films. The problem is that under Iger, EVERYTHING made by Disney had to be family friendly so they would monopolize general audiences and children's entertainment. That's only recently started to change but only because Disney has access to the Fox catalog and wants to make those become part of the Disney brand to make Disney+ profitable.

Adult Disney films may sound as something fantastical like out of the Jim Henson TL, but it's a very real possibility that can happen but didn't because the board was too afraid to change the brand.

Hey guys it just came to me we're like forest Gump if he chose to be an actor like when ever he goes it has a cause and effect area

I can easily see TTL's Forrest Gump taking partial inspiration from Bruce, and if not that then Bruce likely to make a cameo in the film. Either Forrest inspires Bruce with something huge like founding Lucasfilms or Bruce inspires Forrest. Or if nothing else, show a scene of the two interacting but unlike the rest of the movie, nothing monumentous or historical happens as the punchline.
"One time, I had lunch with Bruce O'Brian."
".....And?"
"That was it. I had a cheeseburger, he got a hot dog. Funny guy."

In saying that, I will say this for word of God...

It has changed things, for both good and ill.

Would you belive that certian sections of the political right and left see this strike as nothing more than a disaster for American prestige?

To say nothing about how the Soviets have seen this, and they are laughing all the way to their film studio's...

Though that will change once... a certain film gets released.

Yeah it's not surprising that Hollywood going on strike, one of the pillars of American culture, would present a very bad picture for America abroad. Then again, this is a decade of L's for America and us being weak at home to the Soviets is nothing new with Civil Rights discord being the biggest one. Although at the end of the day, no one outside of the Warsaw Pact watches Soviet films, and everyone is going to remember Star Wars.

Speaking of, I'm hoping we can make even more mega bucks by Mike somehow managing to get Star Wars shown in the Soviet Union. Technically it's not anti-Communist with the film about a rebellion of the people rising against a Fascist monarchy.

Oh boy... And we've unintentionally become a face for the youth.

Though the fact we're doing the right thing and the good things for people (especially Veterans) have made some opinions about us nationally.

I feel bad for all the Boomers and Gen Xers who are going to spend their childhood and young adulthood being constantly lectured by their parents to be more like Bruce O'Brian. In a way we are the living embodiment of the American Dream, even further if you consider Bruce to be an immigrant despite him being born in New York. Lots of different communities and groups can hold up Bruce as their ideal man.
 
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I feel bad for all the Boomers and Gen Xers who are going to spend their childhood and young adulthood being constantly lectured by their parents to be more like Bruce O'Brian. In a way we are the living embodiment of the American Dream, even further if you consider Bruce to be an immigrant despite him being born in New York. Lots of different communities and groups can hold up Bruce as their ideal man.
Including when they compare us to Forrest Gump
 
Also I know Iron Lung is within our lineup, but to me even if it does allow Bruce to star in a one-man movie where the acting is all on him, I'm not necessarily vibing with direct involvement. I would love to be Producer to have one of Cat's works become a hit, but I think something small like this would be a great opportunity to get some small time talent behind the Director's chair and on screen to really focus on the experiment and show how small projects can succeed without star power. But if people want us to do either I guess it could be fine, filming is likely to last a month or two at most so at the very least not time commitment and we can just build a set in LA to work on it.

I mean in the 1980s, Disney did make Touchstone Pictures which made a ton of classic adult and mature general audience films that didn't exactly vibe with the image of Mickey Mouse. Touchstone's second most financially successful film is Pretty Woman, a story about a businessman falling in love with a prostitute. Under Eisner, Disney wasn't afraid to get involved in adult-orientated media, the problem was that all of Touchstone and other films was kept as far away from the Disney brand as possible with few exceptions so that the name Disney still means family, magic and fun. Pretty Woman, Signs, Pearl Harbor, Armageddon, Dead Poet's Society, Good Morning Vietnam, The Help are all technically Disney films. The problem is that under Iger, EVERYTHING made by Disney had to be family friendly so they would monopolize general audiences and children's entertainment. That's only recently started to change but only because Disney has access to the Fox catalog and wants to make those become part of the Disney brand to make Disney+ profitable.

Adult Disney films may sound as something fantastical like out of the Jim Henson TL, but it's a very real possibility that can happen but didn't because the board was too afraid to change the brand.

Yeah it's not surprising that Hollywood going on strike, one of the pillars of American culture, would present a very bad picture for America abroad. Then again, this is a decade of L's for America and us being weak at home to the Soviets is nothing new with Civil Rights discord being the biggest one. Although at the end of the day, no one outside of the Warsaw Pact watches Soviet films, and everyone is going to remember Star Wars.

Speaking of, I'm hoping we can make even more mega bucks by Mike somehow managing to get Star Wars shown in the Soviet Union. Technically it's not anti-Communist with the film about a rebellion of the people rising against a Fascist monarchy.
Iron Lung does seem to be more of a one man show (more if we go with my suggestions to make it seem more psychological and mysterious, with a voice coming from the communicator being in his own head.

I agree that Disney made Touchstone, but that was in the 80s, under Eisner's leadership. Right now, Disney should still be dealing with the divide between Wlat and Roy's side of the Disney family, while aslo being in a creative rut due to the overwhelming power that the "9 old men" still have over the animation department and the Brand power that Disney still has. If anything, i would think this strike would ahve made stick even tighter to their beliefs and positions, as Disney was (and perhaps still is) one of the most virulent Anti-Union studios there were. The idea that a strike caused them to change their brand would be Anathema to them.

I agree with the Jim Henson TL, but there are some good ideas we can take from there. Like the whole 2nd Indiana Jones movie. We can have the main bad guys be the Nazis that Hitler once sent on that expedition trying to find proof of Arian superiority, and they found clues in Tibet of the Mask, that way we keep the Nazis as enemies, and we can include the Maoist guerrillas as just dupes or hired muscle for them.

I think Star Wars OTL was shown in the Soviet Union for said reasons; that it could easily be seen as a fight between Imperialism and the proletariat. It will burn them as hell when they realize this was made due thanks to an Entrepeneur than because of any Socialist sympathies (seriously, Fuck the Soviet Union, and China as well).
 
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