Lights... Camera... ACTION!!: A Hollywood Quest

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

So we have some bad news.

The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

I'll see you all around.

With so many regards, Duke William Of.
 
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Anime Movie Pitch: Macross: Do You Remember Love?
God it's been so long since I've seen this movie, and yet I clearly remember the feelings it evoked in me the first time I discovered it. It was something wholly new and fantastic, with the drama and fights being one of a kind, and so fluid as well, nothing like all the different anime or cartoons I'd seen before. We are close to the time where it should be released, but I don't know if it's being worked on so I hope that this helps it in some small way.

Thus, I give you:

Anime Movie Pitch:
Macross: Do You Remember Love?


GENRE: Action/Romance/Drama

SUBGENRE: Science Fiction/Mecha

FORMAT: Anime Movie

Set Up: An adaptation of Macross: The Robotech Wars. An alternate retelling of the story of humanity's discovery of a crashed alien ship and subsequent battle against a race of giant warriors called the Zentraedi, who have been sent to retrieve the ship for reasons unknown. Though there are similar elements, the movie condenses the entire series into a single movie.

Animation Studios: DreamWorks Animation
Director: Noboru Ishiguro and Shōji Kawamori
Composer: Kentarō Haneda

Rick Hunter: He is a Veritech fighter during the war against the Zentraedi. Rick is a good-natured young man, although he can also be disrespectful at times. He also holds his big brother Roy in high esteem. He originally held affections towards Lin Minmei after saving her during the Zentraedi attack, and the both of them spending time together. But eventually his feelings for Lisa grew, choosing her at the end before leaving to fight against the Zentraedi invading the Earth.

Voiced By: John Culkin
Alternate: Tony Oliver

Lisa Hayes: She is the first officer of the SDF-1, serving under captain Henry Gloval. She tends to be more on the serious side, strict and adhering to the rules. In the beginning, Lisa and Rick had a difficult superior-subordinate relationship, starting with Rick saying how "he's not taking orders from a woman" on his Valkyrie's screen. However, the intensity of their relationship gradually softened after going through a series of crises and intimate moments together, the both of them falling in love with each other.

Voiced By: Kathleen Turner
Alternate: Tress MacNeille

Lin Minmei: She is a bright young girl and a professional idol, who maintains a positive attitude that helps her adapt to her environment, like when she and Rick were trapped in the ship. She teased Rick on how she was acting when performing a "love scene" in one of her movies. She tires of her fame and stressful schedule set by her manager, and brother, Lin Kyle, and eventually falls in love with Rick. Sadly, their relationship would not last once they are separated. Though still in love with him, she accepts his choice, and is essential in the final battle to protect Earth.

Voiced By: Reba Queen
Alternate: Wendee Lee
Roy Fokker: He is a veteran of the Unification Wars, brave and capable, what some would describe as a "man's man." His rough nature belies his compassion and sense of humor, even during grim situations. He is the Commander of Rick's Unit, and a very skilled Veritech pilot. Roy sacrificed himself to let both Rick and Lisa escape while they were all trapped in a Zentraedi ship.

Voiced By: Dan Woren
Alternate: Loren Lester

Claudia LaSalle: She is an American U.N. Space bridge officer in charge of weaponry and navigation of the SDF-1 Macross space fortress. She and fellow bridge officer Lisa Hayes are close friends, often giving her advice on matters of the heart. She is in a relationship with Roy Fokker, and was saddened at his death.

Voiced By: Iona Morris
Alternate: Lynne Lipton

Henry J. Gloval: He is the captain of the SDF-1 Macross. He is considered rather old-fashioned, and does not enjoy being the center of attention for its sake. his determination, conviction, and leadership led him to achieve great things during the war despite the odds, even when outnumbered during the final battle for Earth.

Voiced By: Greg Finley
Alternate: Simon Broad
Maximilian "Max" Sterling: He is a young, skilled pilot who joined Rick's Squadron. He fought against Miriya after Ben was killed. He defeated her and upon breaching the armor, he was as enamored by Miriya as she was with him, expressing his awe at the Meltran pilot.

Voiced By: Mathew Oram

Ben Dixon: He is a tall and strong, but not very smart, U.N. Space Japanese variable fighter pilot who was assigned to Rick's Squadron. He was killed in battle by missiles fired by a group of Queadluun-Raus led by Miriya while joking with Max and Rick.

Voiced By: Richard Epcar

Lin Kyle: He is a Minmei's brother and manager. He is a pacifist who strongly dislikes the military. He favors using mass media to promote his anti-war message.

Voiced By: Eddie Frierson
Breetai 7018:

Voiced By: Eikie Kanie

Exedore 4970: He is a Zentraedi advisor attached to Fleet Commander Breetai 7018. He followed Breetai's lead through all his battles, though he would later become a defector to the human side.

Voiced By: Ryūsuke Ōbayashi

Miriya 639: She is a 'Meltlandi' pilot whos' been at war with the Zentraedi for all her life. After the Meltlandi fleet appears on Earth, it begins fighting both Zentraedi and Human alike until she was defeated by Max Sterling.

Voiced By: Eri Takeda

Khyron 03350: He is a brilliant but mentally unstable Zentraedi commander who was in Breetai's Command Fleet when Rick and Lisa were captured, and was the one who killed Roy Fokker.

Voiced By: Yūichi Meguro

Dolza Zer: He is the Supreme Commander of the Zentraedi fleet. He is a cyborg Zentraedi leader who was fused with a massive combat mobile fortress that had a 120,000-cycle history of space battles.

Voiced By: Osamu Ichikawa

A.N.: Hopefully this either gets us a bonus or the movie to be in production. It is too iconic to be forgotten, plus the idea that this could be another theatrical release could perhaps help in popularizing the trend of Cartoon or Anime movies being given the same respect and seriousness so as to make them appear in theatres sooner than what they are doing now.
 
Disney Pitch: The Hunchback of Notre Dame
I can't talk very much right now, since I've got another meeting in about half-an-hour, but I wanted to do another Disney pitch. I've had this on the backburner for quite some time and I originally wanted to pitch this movie for Dreamworks because I adore Hellfire(it's such a good song), but then the Dark Disney stuff happened and I eventually decided that it would fit the Dark Disney catalogue a lot better. I'm also gonna be putting up a couple of other pitches today, including a couple of other Disney pitches. Anyways, I hope you enjoy!

Disney Pitch:
The Hunchback of Notre Dame

GENRE: Drama
SUBGENRE: Comedy/Romance
FORMAT: Animated Movie​
SET UP: Quasimodo is the disfigured bell-ringer of Notre Dame Cathedral, biding his time locked away in a tower. With only gargoyles to keep him company, Quasimodo longs to be with other people, leading to his chance encounter with the enchanting Gypsy, Esmeralda. When the beautiful young woman catches the attention of Quasimodo's guardian, Judge Claude Frollo, Quasimodo must help her to stay out of his clutches.
Clopin, a Roma puppeteer, narrates the story of a mysterious bell-ringer to a group of children.

A group of Roma immigrating to Paris are ambushed by Judge Claude Frollo, Paris' Minister of Justice, and his soldiers. One woman attempts to flee with her baby, reaching the doors of Notre Dame pleading for sanctuary. Frollo chases her down and knocks her onto the cathedral's steps, where she fractures her skull and dies. Seeing her baby's appearance, Frollo believes it to be a demon and tries drowning the child but is thwarted by the archdeacon, who scolds Frollo for murdering an innocent woman. Afraid for his soul, Frollo reluctantly agrees to raise the child as his own, naming him Quasimodo, meaning half-formed, and hiding him away in the cathedral's bell tower.

Twenty years later, Quasimodo has grown into a kind yet isolated young man, now with a pronounced hunchback caused by kyphosis. He is also incredibly strong, due to years of ringing Notre Dame's heavy bells. He has lived his entire life in the cathedral with his only company being a trio of living stone gargoyles Victor, Hugo, and Laverne. The gargoyles encourage him to attend the annual Festival of Fools, despite Frollo's warnings that he would be shunned for his appearance. Quasimodo attends and is celebrated for his appearance but then, prompted by Frollo's guards, is humiliated by the crowd. Frollo refuses Quasimodo's pleas for help, but he is rescued by Esmeralda, a kind Roma who stands up to Frollo for his tyranny. Intending to commit genocide against Roma people living in Paris, Frollo orders Esmeralda's arrest, but she escapes using a magic trick.

Quasimodo retreats back into the cathedral, followed by Esmeralda and Captain Phoebus of Frollo's guard. Phoebus refuses to arrest her for witchcraft inside Notre Dame and instead tells Frollo that she has claimed asylum. Esmeralda finds and befriends Quasimodo, who helps her escape Notre Dame out of gratitude for defending him. She entrusts Quasimodo with a pendant containing a map to the Roma hideout called the Court of Miracles. Frollo develops an obsessive lust for Esmeralda and, upon realizing this, begs the Virgin Mary to save him from her "spell" and avoid eternal damnation.

When Frollo discovers Esmeralda's escape, he searches for her, bribing and arresting Travellers/Roma and setting fire to houses while trying to find her. Phoebus defies Frollo when ordered to burn down a house with a family inside and Frollo orders him executed. Phoebus flees but is struck by an arrow and falls into the River Seine, where he is found by Esmeralda and taken to Notre Dame for refuge. The gargoyles encourage Quasimodo to confess his feelings for Esmeralda, but he is heartbroken to discover she and Phoebus have fallen in love. Realizing that Quasimodo helped Esmeralda escape, Frollo tells him he knows about the Court of Miracles and plans to attack it at dawn. Using the map Esmeralda gave him, Quasimodo and Phoebus find the court to warn the Roma, only for Frollo to follow them and capture all the Roma present.

When Esmeralda again rejects Frollo's advances, he attempts to burn her at the stake at Place du Parvis, but Quasimodo swoops down and carries her to the cathedral tower, crying "Sanctuary!" from the ledge. When Frollo attempts to seize the cathedral, Phoebus releases the Roma and rallies the Paris citizens against Frollo's guards. Quasimodo and the gargoyles pour molten lead onto the streets to prevent anyone entering, but Frollo himself manages to break into the cathedral beforehand. Violating the tradition of sanctuary, he pursues Quasimodo and Esmeralda to the bell tower with the intent of killing them both. He and Quasimodo fight, eventually both falling from a ledge. Frollo plummets to his death in the molten lead while Quasimodo is saved by Phoebus. Quasimodo accepts Phoebus and Esmeralda's love and they encourage him to leave the cathedral; when he does so, the people of Paris hail him as a hero.
 
Disney Pitch:
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
This is a good idea. I had been debating as to whether we should try to leave it for Disney or try to bring it to DreamWorks, but it does fit better with the former now that I recall they are trying to go with a darker aesthetic and theme for trheir movies.

I really hope we can do The Little Mermaid soon though, i really want to show that we can o just as well as Disney on those.
 
Disney Pitch: Oliver and Company
Alright, here's the second Disney Pitch. Oliver and Company is a film that despite knowing I've never seen it, I still feel like I have? I don't know why though. I also always thought this was a Bluth film, for... some reason. I rediscovered this film while I was searching for voice actors for Undertale and after watching a clip of Jenny singing with Oliver, I found it really endearing. Despite Disney going in the Dark Disney direction, I felt like it didn't make much sense to me for them to completely abandon their roots, at least not yet. I think it still makes sense for them to release lighter fair in the style of the older Walt films, sorta like how they were gonna keep releasing 2D animated films before Princess and the Frog flopped and they took all the wrong lessons from it. Anyway, I think Oliver and Company could find a good home among the Disney catalogue, so I hope you enjoy! I'm off to my meeting now.

Disney Pitch:
Oliver and Company

GENRE: Adventure
SUBGENRE: Comedy
FORMAT: Animated Movie​
SET UP: Oliver is an orphaned kitten taken in by a gang of thieving dogs, led by cavalier canine Dodger and owned by down-and-out pickpocket Fagin. While pulling a job in the streets of New York City, Oliver winds up being adopted by a rich girl, Jenny, and landing on easy street. But through a series of events, a loan shark threatens the peaceful new arrangement.
On Fifth Avenue, several kittens are left in a box outside a shop. All but one, an orange tabby, are adopted. Wandering the streets by himself in search of someone to adopt him, the kitten meets a laid-back Jack Russell Terrier named Dodger, who agrees to help him steal food from a hot dog vendor. Dodger then reneges on the deal and flees with the hot dogs.

The kitten pursues Dodger all over New York City. Dodger eventually arrives at a barge, where the kitten watches him share the hot dogs with a gang of poverty-stricken dogs (Tito the chihuahua, Einstein the Great Dane, Rita the Saluki, and Francis the bulldog). The kitten accidentally falls into the barge, startling the dogs; although they were miffed, none of them harm him after he explains himself. Fagin, the bargeman and petty thief who owns the dogs, is indebted to Sykes, a nefarious loan shark and criminal. Sykes arrives and gives Fagin an ultimatum; repay the money in three days, or suffer violence, possibly even death. Sykes's two Dobermans, Roscoe and DeSoto, harass Fagin's dogs and threaten to eat the kitten, until he scratches DeSoto's nose, earning the respect of the dogs and Fagin. Roscoe warns that they will try to exact revenge.

The next morning, Fagin goes to pawn some of his stolen goods, while the dogs and the kitten try to steal more money for him. Through a theatrical ruse, the animals stop a limousine belonging to the wealthy Foxworth family, but the attempt to rob the limo fails, and the kitten is taken by the child Jenny Foxworth, who is missing her vacationing parents and desires a companion. She names him Oliver, and becomes very attached to him.

Oliver makes himself at home in Jenny's house, much to the disgust of Georgette, the Foxworth family's spoiled, prize-winning poodle. With her help, Dodger and the dogs manage to steal Oliver back from the Foxworth household, returning him to the barge. Fagin recognizes from Oliver's new collar and gold name tag that he had been adopted by a wealthy family, and desperately decides to hold Oliver for ransom. His anonymously written ransom note reaches Jenny, who sets out to get Oliver back at the pier.

Jenny and Georgette meet with Fagin, who is shocked to be dealing with a little girl whose "ransom money" is a piggy bank. Bothered by his conscience and Jenny's tears, Fagin gives Oliver back freely. Sykes, whom Fagin had informed of the deal beforehand, is watching from the shadows and kidnaps Jenny, intending to ransom her while declaring Fagin's debt paid. Dodger rallies Oliver and the other dogs to free Jenny from Sykes, but Sykes and his Dobermans confront them as they attempt to leave. Fagin saves the group with his motor scooter, and a chase ensues throughout the streets and into the subway tunnels. Jenny falls from the scooter onto Sykes's car; Oliver and Dodger go after her and battle Roscoe and DeSoto, who fall off the car and are electrocuted on the third rail of the subway. Fagin leaves Tito to drive and saves Jenny, while Dodger and Oliver are thrown from Sykes's car onto the pavement of the Brooklyn Bridge just before an oncoming train strikes Sykes's car, killing him. Tito drives the scooter to safety, and Jenny and Oliver are reunited.

Later, Jenny celebrates her birthday with the animals, Fagin, and the family butler Winston who learns that Jenny's parents will be back the next day. Oliver opts to stay with Jenny, but he promises to remain in contact with Dodger and the gang.
 
Here's the last Disney pitch for the day and it may be a little controversial. I remember ages ago that we discussed in the thread about Evangelion and how what makes it "special" has been kind of rendered moot by the success of Pacific Rim and I remember someone, I think it was Kaiser Chris, who suggested that it could be done as a Disney anime instead, so I thought that I'd pitch it as such, especially with the end of the Pacific Rim sidestory talking about Disney wanting to create something in the same vein to challenge Pacific Rim. I've never actually watched Evangelion, at least not past the first few episodes. I liked the animation quite a bit, but I'm well past the age or point in my life where any of it is relatable and so I find that all that miserableness is just that, fucking miserable. I don't know about y'all, but my life isn't so amazing that I just need to watch things that make me miserable as some form of escapism. It's a lot like Worm in that regard. I'm sure that when most people, it was very relatable for the time that they first read it, I'm sure I would have been one of those people if I read it when it first came out. Reading it for the first time at the point I'm at now though, I can't help but be struck by how much of an insufferable and miserable cunt Taylor is, which is not even getting into the Undersiders as a whole, and I don't want to read about a protagonist I fucking despise. Regardless, I thought that with Disney being our main competitors in the animation space and with Disney Channel launching soon(this year, I think?), they could do with some anime and I thought that Eva would work for them.
Honestly, I can never EVER picture Disney either OTL or in this quest to ever greenlight Evangelion, especially if they go for the full Hideki Anno being a depressed mess when writing (and sipping it into the anime) and the whole Pseudochirstian symbolism pissing off the parents in the Bible Belt...
 
Honestly, I can never EVER picture Disney either OTL or in this quest to ever greenlight Evangelion, especially if they go for the full Hideki Anno being a depressed mess when writing (and sipping it into the anime) and the whole Pseudochirstian symbolism pissing off the parents in the Bible Belt...
I have to agree, not to mention that with the changes that we are pushing in Japan, there is the possibility that Hideki Anno either never makes Evangelion, or it's a completely different beast than in OTL.
 
I have to agree, not to mention that with the changes that we are pushing in Japan, there is the possibility that Hideki Anno either never makes Evangelion, or it's a completely different beast than in OTL.
Well, even if we improve things enough in Japan for the Animation Guild he may end up doing it something very similar although more optimistic... Like instead of because of doing it that way because of his depression as a way of exorcising his demons...

So something more similar to the Ecangailion Manga or the Rebuild Movies...
 
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Movie Pitch: The Strangers
Another Double Feature! This time it's for the excellent horror franchise, The Strangers. The Strangers is a movie that really didn't need to be a franchise, but I'm glad that more content exists. The first film is just so fucking eerie and disturbing and I absolutely adore how indiscriminate the violence is, culminating in the answer, "Because you were home," when Kristen asks why they're doing this to them. That's only my second favorite moment in the film though, since my favorite is actually the shot that I chose for the image, where the scene is held for a while with Kristen just going around the room doing shit while the Man in the Mask is just standing menacingly in the background watching her. It's so fucking good. The second one is wonderfully 80s in tone and it's a lot of fun as well, even if I think it's not as good as the first film. I think these two films will make excellent additions to the Lucasfilm horror line-up. I hope you enjoy!

Movie Pitch:
The Strangers

GENRE: Horror
SUBGENRE: Slasher/Suspense
FORMAT: Movie​
SET UP: Kristen and James are a couple expecting a relaxing weekend at a family vacation home, but their stay turns out to be anything but peaceful when their stay is disrupted by three masked intruders who infiltrate the home one night, leaving Kristen and James struggling for survival.
James Hoyt and Kristen McKay arrive at James' isolated childhood summer home after attending a wedding. The couple is distraught after Kristen turned down James' marriage proposal. James calls his friend Mike and asks to pick him up in the morning. The couple attempt to have sex, but are interrupted by a knock at the door. They answer to find a young woman, asking if Tamara is home. James dismisses her, and builds a fire for Kristen.

James goes to purchase cigarettes for Kristen. The woman from earlier returns, asking the same question. Kristen dismisses her again. A masked man is seen silently watching her from inside the house.

Kristen notices the smoke alarm she'd dropped on the floor earlier is now sitting on a chair and realizes someone is in the house. She finds her cellphone missing and is horrified when the front door is forced ajar. The young woman, now wearing a mask, peers into the house. She locks the door and retreats.

James returns and reassures Kristen that nobody is in the house. They see the young masked woman, Dollface, watching their house from outside. He attempts to get his cellphone from their car but finds it ransacked. The couple attempts to escape in the car, but are abruptly stopped when the masked brunette woman rear-ends them in a pickup truck.

Mike arrives and James accidentally shoots him dead. He remembers an old radio transmitter in a barn on the property. He leaves and the Man in the Mask knocks him unconscious, and eventually does the same to Kristen inside the house. The couple awakens tied to chairs in the living room. Kristen demands an explanation for the intruders' actions, to which Dollface replies, "Because you were home."

The offenders unmask themselves before taking turns stabbing the couple. They leave and come across two young boys distributing Mormon religious tracts. The boy gives Dollface one, and right before the strangers drive away, Dollface says, "It will be easier next time." The two boys come upon the house, where they discover the bloodied bodies of Kristen and James. Kristen startles one of the boys by grabbing his hand and screaming, before they call the police.
Kristen McKay
Played by
: Barbara Crampton

James Hoyt
Played by
: Andy Garcia

Man in the Mask
Played by
: Michael Rooker

Dollface
Played by
: Rebecca De Mornay

Pin-Up Girl
Played by
: Meg Tilly

Movie Pitch:
The Strangers: Prey at Night

GENRE: Horror
SUBGENRE: Slasher/Suspense
FORMAT: Movie​
SET UP: Mike and his wife Cindy take their son and daughter on a road trip that soon becomes their worst nightmare. The family members soon find themselves in a desperate fight for survival when they arrive at a secluded mobile home park that has been mysteriously deserted, until three masked psychopaths show up to satisfy their thirst for blood.
After the events of the first film, in a secluded trailer park in Kalida, Ohio, the three masked strangers—Dollface, Pin-Up Girl, and the Man in the Mask—arrive and murder middle-aged couple Sheryl and Marvin.

The next day, their niece, Cindy and her husband, Mike take a trip with their children, 17-year-old Luke and 15-year-old Kinsey, to the trailer park to spend time together before Kinsey leaves for boarding school. After arriving, unmasked Dollface knocks at their front door and asks for Tamara, but is turned away by Cindy. Kinsey and Luke find their aunt and uncle's mutilated bodies inside another trailer.

Dollface knocks a second time and is again turned away. Mike follows Luke to find the bodies, while Cindy and Kinsey return to the family trailer. They find the cell phones smashed about before Dollface attacks them. Cindy helps Kinsey escape and sacrifices herself.

Mike and Luke find the voicemail that Cindy left for their uncle before arriving, realizing that the offenders had been waiting for them that whole time. After fending off the Man in the Mask, they find Cindy dead. They drive around, shouting for Kinsey, before the Man in the Mask causes their van to crash by throwing a cinder block on the car's windshield. Mike gets impaled with a wooden plank and gives Luke the gun. After Luke leaves to find his sister, Mike is killed by the Man in the Mask with an ice pick.

Kinsey encounters Dollface and is stabbed in the thigh before being rescued by Luke. Luke hides Kinsey under a porch while he runs to the general store for help. He calls 911, but realizes he is not alone when Pin-up girl cuts the phone line when the call goes dead and escapes to the swimming pool, where he is able to overpower and kill Pin-Up Girl. An angry Man in the Mask stabs Luke in the back leaving him to drown in the pool; Kinsey rescues him before setting off to find help.

A deputy finds Kinsey, but is quickly killed by Dollface. Kinsey shoots Dollface once in the chest, removes her mask, and asks why she is doing this, to which she replies, "Why not?" Kinsey then kills her with a shot to her head. The Man in the Mask arrives and rams the back of the police SUV and then t-bones the police SUV causing Man in the Mask's truck to get stuck in the collision. Then Kinsey notices a hole in both the vehicles' gas tanks & ignites the gasoline leak, blowing up both their trucks. The Man in the Mask survives the explosion and chases Kinsey. Then limps out of his truck injured and pulls a shard of glass impaled in his stomach and passes out. Kinsey flags down a passing truck, but they flee when they see the Man in the Mask wielding the axe right behind Kinsey. Kinsey climbs into the back of the truck with him in pursuit, but knocks him off the truck by bashing him in the head with a baseball bat given by the occupants in the truck, finally killing him.

Some time later, Kinsey is at a hospital with Luke. As she awakens, she is freaked out by the sound of the doorknob turning and drops her water.
Cindy
Played by
: Ann-Margret

Mike
Played by
: Kevin Dobson

Kinsey
Played by
: Elizabeth McGovern
Alternate: Courtney Cox

Luke
Played by
: John Stockwell
Alternate: Sam Rockwell

Man in the Mask
Played by
: Michael Rooker

Dollface
Played by
: Rebecca De Mornay

Pin-Up Girl
Played by
: Meg Tilly
 
i think it could be interesting to have Don Bluth create a version of Click after the concept of the universal remote gains traction. Except without the needlessly crass Happy Madison humor.
 
TV Mini-Series Pitch: The Bone Wars
Alright then, this is another Mini-Series that also came from a discussion with @Carcer about the topic, and thanks to him sharing some of the videos about it. Frankly, this shocked me when I saw it because, while I do understand how petty some scientists can be when it comes to sharing the credit from their discoveries (The Tuberculosis Vaccine being a prime example), at the same time I never thought I would see such an example of childish bickering in the scientific community that would lead to the field of study in question to both gain and lose precious knowledge, with the aftermath being the set-back for research of at least two decades because of it.

And this came because of two men, not because of an entire group of scientists. Seriously the upmanship and pettiness involved makes the Montagues and the Capulets look like a children's brawl.

I think we can take a valuable lesson from here; how sometimes scientists, for all that we may wish it so, can't be as objective as they claim. How we should take discoveries with a pinch of salt and do research, and double research, perhaps even making sure that whatever is being done is not because of personal reasons. And of course, always make sure that the knowledge is never lost again like it was done here.

Thus, I give you:

TV Mini-Series Pitch:
The Bone Wars


GENRE: Drama/Comedy/Tragedy

SUBGENRE: Documentary/History

FORMAT: TV Mini-Series

Set Up: The tale of the "Great Dinosaur Rush", the period where two scientists, Othniel Charles Marsh and Edward Drinker Cope, revolutionized the field of Paleontology, and brought forth some of the greatest discoveries of the age. Yet at the same time, brought forth an age of competitiveness between scientists, confused future endeavors with their notes, and destroyed priceless knowledge in their rush to be the first and best in their fields. A sobering reminder that Scientists are all too human in the end, with all the virtues and flaws that come with it.

Director: Buzz Kulik
Composer: Ennio Morricone
Episode Length: 45-50 Minutes

Othniel Charles Marsh: The son of a modest farming family. Always interested in studying science, he got the support of his wealthy uncle, George Peabody, to finance his education. He attended Phillips Academy and later enrolled at Yale University, receiving a Bachelor of Science degree from Yale's Sheffield Scientific School, a Master in Chemistry, Mineralogy and Geology. He studied in Europe where He became an advocate of Darwin's theories, seeing natural selection as a key mechanism in evolutionary change. His personality was described as an obnoxious know-it-all. A brilliant scientist and a stubborn old goat, with many saying that "to get to know Marsh is like running into a pitchfork".

Played By: Michael Gambon
Alternate: Bob Hoskins

Edward Drinker Cope: He was the son of a prosperous shipping magnate. He was a bit of a spoiled brat growing up. His father sent him to the University of Pennsylvania in which he showed little to no interest, with even his handwriting being so terrible for the rest of his life. He did show an early interest in natural history. When seeing the constantly lowering grades of his son, his father bought him a farm so he could work it and make a stable income out of it. Cope However, decided to rent the farm to pursue his research and interests independently., with his father acquiescing.

Played By: John Lithgow
Alternate: Jeremy Irons
First Meeting and Early Collaboration
  • 1867 - Berlin Meeting:
    • Cope and Marsh met for the first time in Berlin at a scientific conference. At this point, both were on amicable terms and exchanged ideas about their paleontological work. They recognized each other's potential, forming a temporary alliance based on mutual respect for each other's scientific endeavors.
  • 1868 - New Jersey Fossil Site Incident:
    • The seeds of rivalry were planted when Cope introduced Marsh to a fossil site in New Jersey. Cope generously shared his discoveries of Hadrosaurus fossils with Marsh, hoping for collaborative work. Instead, Marsh secretly negotiated with the site owner to have future finds sent to him, excluding Cope. This betrayal marked the first significant rift between the two scientists.
The Elasmosaurus Incident
  • 1870 - Elasmosaurus Misplacement:
    • Cope discovered and described Elasmosaurus platyurus, a marine reptile, but famously placed its skull on the wrong end of the vertebral column. When Marsh pointed out the mistake, it became a public embarrassment for Cope. This incident was not just a professional error but a personal blow, leading Cope to attempt buying all copies of the publication to prevent further damage to his reputation.
Scientific and Philosophical Differences
  • Approaches to Paleontology:
    • Cope was known for his impulsive and ambitious nature, often rushing to publish new findings to outpace Marsh. His approach sometimes led to errors in interpretation but also demonstrated his extraordinary productivity, resulting in over 1,200 scientific papers and descriptions of over 1,000 species.
  • Marsh's Methodical Nature:
    • In contrast, Marsh was meticulous, focusing on accuracy and detail. He was slower to publish, but his work often included comprehensive studies and descriptions. This difference in methodology fueled their rivalry, with each critiquing the other's approach.
  • Evolutionary Views:
    • Cope's adherence to Neo-Lamarckism contrasted with Marsh's acceptance of Darwinian evolution. Cope believed that species acquired characteristics through use and disuse, which were then passed on to offspring. Marsh, however, focused on natural selection, examining fossil evidence to support evolutionary theory.
Expansion into the American West
  • Early Expeditions:
    • Both Cope and Marsh recognized the untapped potential of fossil-rich areas in the American West. They launched expeditions into the regions of Wyoming, Colorado, and Nebraska, seeking the plentiful dinosaur remains embedded in the Morrison Formation and other sites.
  • Financial Backing:
    • Marsh had substantial financial backing, thanks to his connections with Yale and the Peabody family. This support enabled him to fund large teams and multiple expeditions. Cope, on the other hand, relied on his inheritance and personal funds, limiting his ability to compete with Marsh's well-resourced efforts.
Cosmo Bluff, Wyoming
  • 1877 - Discovery of Como Bluff:
    • In March 1877, a letter from Arthur Lakes, a schoolteacher and geologist, reached Marsh, informing him of significant dinosaur fossils in Como Bluff, Wyoming. Marsh acted quickly, dispatching his field team to secure the site.
  • Competition Intensifies:
    • Cope soon learned of the finds through Oramel Lucas, a railroad worker who discovered fossils at nearby Garden Park, Colorado. Cope's team hurried to excavate the area, initiating a series of confrontations between the two camps as they vied for control of these rich fossil deposits.
Tactics and Strategies
  • Spying and Espionage:
    • Both Cope and Marsh employed spies to report on each other's activities. Marsh, for example, had informants within Cope's team, keeping him updated on Cope's discoveries and excavation sites. Cope reciprocated by planting informants to gather intelligence on Marsh's operations.
  • Sabotage:
    • Reports of fossil theft, site tampering, and even physical altercations between workers were common. Some accounts suggest that Marsh's team used dynamite to destroy fossil sites after excavating them to prevent Cope from accessing additional specimens.
  • Financial Manipulation:
    • Marsh leveraged his political connections to secure federal funding for his research through the United States Geological Survey (USGS). This move provided him with a significant advantage, while Cope struggled financially, relying on loans and selling parts of his collection to sustain his work.
Major Discoveries and Scientific Contributions
The intense competition between Cope and Marsh led to an unprecedented number of discoveries and descriptions of new species. Their contributions during this period fundamentally shaped the field of paleontology.
  • Edward Drinker Cope's Discoveries:
    • Camarasaurus (1877): One of the first sauropod dinosaurs identified by Cope, contributing to the understanding of large herbivorous dinosaurs.
    • Coelophysis (1889): A small, agile theropod dinosaur that provided insights into early dinosaur evolution and predation.
    • Monoclonius (1876): A ceratopsian dinosaur, one of the earliest horned dinosaurs to be described.
    • Amphicoelias (1877): A sauropod dinosaur, once thought to be among the largest, though its actual size remains debated.
    • Dryptosaurus (1866): A theropod dinosaur from New Jersey, contributing to the understanding of North America's dinosaur fauna.
  • Othniel Charles Marsh's Discoveries:
    • Apatosaurus (1877): A sauropod dinosaur, notable for its large size and distinctive neck and tail. It was initially confused with Brontosaurus, another dinosaur described by Marsh.
    • Stegosaurus (1877): An armored dinosaur known for its distinctive plates and spikes, which led to debates about their function (defense, thermoregulation, or display).
    • Triceratops (1889): A three-horned dinosaur that became one of the most famous and recognizable dinosaurs, contributing to Marsh's reputation.
    • Allosaurus (1877): A large theropod dinosaur, providing insights into the predatory behaviors and ecosystems of the Late Jurassic period.
    • Diplodocus (1878): A long-necked sauropod, known for its elongated body and whip-like tail, representing some of the longest land animals ever discovered.
Technological and Methodological Advancements
  • Excavation Techniques:
    • The competition drove the development of advanced excavation techniques. Both paleontologists began using plaster to preserve delicate fossils during transportation, a method that became standard practice.
  • Illustration and Documentation:
    • Detailed illustrations and descriptions of fossils were prioritized, with Cope and Marsh employing skilled artists and lithographers to produce accurate representations of their findings. These efforts contributed to the scientific rigor and accessibility of their work.
  • Publication and Journals:
    • The rapid publication of findings was a hallmark of the Bone Wars. Cope and Marsh frequently published in journals such as the American Journal of Science and the Proceedings of the Academy of Natural Sciences, often critiquing each other's work and defending their claims.
Escalation of Hostilities
  • Personal Attacks:
    • The rivalry intensified with public attacks and accusations of incompetence and misconduct. Cope accused Marsh of plagiarism and unethical behavior, while Marsh questioned Cope's scientific accuracy and integrity.
  • Public Scandals:
    • Cope sought to expose what he perceived as corruption within the USGS under Marsh's leadership. He accused Marsh of using government resources for personal gain, leading to congressional inquiries and public scrutiny.
Financial and Professional Challenges
  • Cope's Financial Struggles:
    • Cope's financial situation deteriorated as he invested heavily in field expeditions and publishing his findings. His decision to sell parts of his fossil collection to museums and private collectors underscored the financial pressures he faced.
  • Marsh's Political Maneuvering:
    • Marsh's connections with political figures and academic institutions allowed him to maintain a steady flow of funding. However, his management of USGS resources drew criticism, leading to increased oversight and questions about his ethics.
Impact on the Scientific Community
  • Criticism from Peers:
    • The scientific community began to question the ethics and methods of both Cope and Marsh, expressing concerns about the potential damage to fossil sites and the impact on the reputation of paleontology as a field.
  • Influence on Future Research:
    • Despite the rivalry, their discoveries laid the groundwork for future research, inspiring a new generation of paleontologists. The Bone Wars highlighted the importance of collaboration and ethical standards in scientific research.
Diminishing Public Interest
  • Shift in Focus:
    • As the controversy surrounding their rivalry became more widely known, public interest in the Bone Wars began to wane. The attention shifted towards more collaborative scientific endeavors and the broader implications of their discoveries.
  • Lasting Contributions:
    • Despite the decline in public interest, Cope and Marsh continued to contribute to paleontology. Their work significantly expanded the understanding of dinosaur taxonomy and evolutionary biology, leaving a lasting legacy.
Final Years
  • Cope's Continued Efforts:
    • Cope faced ongoing financial difficulties and health challenges, yet he remained active in research and publishing until his death in 1897. He continued to defend his theories and engage in scientific debates, leaving a prolific legacy of work.
  • Marsh's Enduring Influence:
    • Marsh maintained his position and influence within the scientific community, despite the controversies that marked his career. His work on dinosaur classification continued to be highly regarded, and he remained a prominent figure until his death in 1899.

Legacy and Impact of the Bone Wars
Scientific Contributions

  • Discovery of New Species:
    • The Bone Wars led to the identification and classification of over 142 new dinosaur species, significantly enriching the fossil record and advancing the understanding of prehistoric life.
  • Advancements in Paleontology:
    • The rivalry spurred innovations in excavation, preservation, and documentation techniques, many of which became standard practice in paleontology.
Institutional Developments
  • Establishment of Museums:
    • The competition contributed to the development of major institutions, including the Peabody Museum of Natural History at Yale and the American Museum of Natural History in New York, which became leading centers for paleontological research and education.
Cultural and Historical Influence
  • Public Fascination with Dinosaurs:
    • The Bone Wars captured the public's imagination, contributing to the popularization of dinosaurs and paleontology. The rivalry was widely covered in newspapers and magazines, influencing public perception and sparking a lasting fascination with prehistoric life.
  • Cautionary Tale of Scientific Rivalry:
    • The Bone Wars serve as a cautionary tale about the dangers of scientific rivalry and unethical practices. The conflict underscored the importance of collaboration, transparency, and integrity in scientific research.

The Negative Consequences and Damages
Environmental and Fossil Site Damage

  • Destruction of Fossil Sites:
    • Both Cope and Marsh resorted to aggressive excavation methods, including the use of dynamite to unearth fossils quickly. This technique often caused irreparable damage to the fossil sites and led to the destruction of countless fossils. In their rush to outpace one another, delicate fossils were sometimes shattered or lost forever.
  • Sabotage:
    • There are documented instances where workers from both camps destroyed fossil sites after removing valuable specimens to prevent their rival from finding anything at those locations. This practice not only reduced the scientific value of the sites but also made it impossible for future paleontologists to study them in a more careful and systematic manner.
Loss of Scientific Context
  • Poor Documentation:
    • Due to the intense competition, both paleontologists often neglected to document the precise locations and stratigraphic context of their finds adequately. This lack of proper documentation made it difficult for other scientists to understand the geological and environmental conditions in which the fossils were found, limiting the broader scientific understanding of the ecosystems in which these ancient creatures lived.
Damage to Scientific Integrity and Collaboration
  • Hasty Publications:
    • In their rush to be the first to describe new species, both Cope and Marsh made several mistakes in their scientific papers. They often published incomplete or inaccurate descriptions of fossils, leading to confusion in the classification and understanding of dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures. Cope's infamous error with the Elasmosaurus, where he placed the skull on the wrong end of the skeleton, exemplifies the pitfalls of rushing scientific work.
  • Duplicate Naming:
    • The speed at which both scientists were publishing led to numerous instances of the same species being described under different names by Cope and Marsh, a problem known as "synonymy." This created a tangled web of taxonomic confusion that took decades for subsequent paleontologists to resolve.
  • Personal and Professional Attacks:
    • The rivalry between Cope and Marsh became highly public, with both men frequently attacking each other in scientific publications and the press. This public airing of grievances damaged the reputation of American paleontology in the eyes of the global scientific community and discouraged potential collaboration with European scientists.
  • Undermining Colleagues:
    • Both men often sought to undermine each other's credibility by questioning their rival's scientific competence and ethics. Marsh, for example, frequently criticized Cope's work for being rushed and error-prone, while Cope accused Marsh of using his political connections to secure unfair advantages. This toxic environment discouraged open collaboration and mutual respect among scientists during this period.
Financial and Institutional Consequences
  • Misuse of Resources:
    • Marsh, in particular, used his connections to secure funding from the United States Geological Survey (USGS) and other government sources. However, much of this funding was funneled into his personal research rather than broader scientific initiatives. This misuse of government resources led to public and congressional scrutiny, damaging the reputation of the USGS and raising concerns about the proper use of public funds in scientific research.
  • Cope's Financial Ruin:
    • Cope, who lacked the same level of financial support as Marsh, eventually depleted his personal fortune in the pursuit of paleontological glory. His financial struggles became so severe that he was forced to sell parts of his fossil collection to keep funding his research. Despite his prolific output, Cope died in relative poverty, a stark contrast to his earlier life of wealth.
Long-Term Impact on Paleontology
  • Legacy of Confusion and Misinformation:
    • The Bone Wars resulted in a significant number of misidentified and duplicate species names. Later paleontologists had to spend considerable time and effort sorting through the confusion, reclassifying species, and correcting the errors introduced by Cope and Marsh's hasty publications. This work continues to some extent even today, as new discoveries sometimes lead to further revisions of their findings.
  • Missed Opportunities for Collaboration:
    • The intense rivalry discouraged cooperation among American paleontologists and with their European counterparts. This lack of collaboration may have delayed advancements in the field that could have been achieved through a more cooperative approach.
  • Damage to Personal Reputations:
    • The aggressive tactics and public feuding between Cope and Marsh left a lasting mark on their personal and professional reputations. Both men were seen as brilliant but deeply flawed individuals, whose rivalry overshadowed their significant contributions to science. Their contentious relationship is often cited as a cautionary tale of how personal animosity can undermine scientific progress.
  • Influence on Scientific Culture:
    • The Bone Wars set a precedent for competition over collaboration in the scientific community, particularly in the field of paleontology. While competition can drive innovation, the extreme nature of Cope and Marsh's rivalry highlighted the potential downsides, including unethical behavior and the sacrifice of scientific integrity.
Conclusion
The Bone Wars between Edward Drinker Cope and Othniel Charles Marsh remain a defining chapter in the history of paleontology. Despite their intense rivalry and personal animosity, their competitive spirit spurred significant advancements in the study of prehistoric life. However, their legacy is also marred by the substantial damage they caused—environmental destruction, scientific errors, financial waste, and the erosion of professional ethics. While their contributions to paleontology laid the foundation for modern research, the Bone Wars also serve as a cautionary tale about the dangers of unchecked competition and the importance of maintaining ethical standards in scientific inquiry. Their story is a complex and enduring lesson on the dual-edged nature of ambition in the pursuit of knowledge.

A.N.: I'd like to give huge thanks to @Carcer for his aid in the research and the inspiration for this pitch. The story between these two men is full of so much comedy and tragedy that I can't, for the life of me, understand just why no one has tried making a movie, TV Show or even mini-series about it. Well, their loss is our gain I guess.
 
For Evangelion, might as well rebuild(hah!) the entire thing based more on on of the experimental offshoots, I distinctly remember at least three mangas that were basically what-ifs, one was 'school-life on Tokyo-3, Shinji gets caught up in infiltrating the Nerv base when following his idiot friends and ends up doing a gundam protagonist', another was 'angels are human-sized legion, and the pilots are now angel-human hybrids using their angel core hidden somewhere in their bodies to summon weapons that can kill the angels, also, they're in the shadowy student council, because why not?', and the third is actually angelic days, the... yuri-verse between Asuka and Rei.... I think, been some time since I last read it
 
A.N.: I'd like to give huge thanks to @Carcer for his aid in the research and the inspiration for this pitch. The story between these two men is full of so much comedy and tragedy that I can't, for the life of me, understand just why no one has tried making a movie, TV Show or even mini-series about it. Well, their loss is our gain I guess.
No problem,that idea was tickling my brain for a while so it's neat to see it wrote down


It will be a nice thing to make a bit befor jurrasic park,strentenin g the dino hype and hammering more knowledge about the dino in the common knowledge so we can make jurrasic park more detailled.
 
Movie Pitch: The Greatest Worst Show Ever Made
Movie Pitch: The Greatest Worst Show Ever Made
Format: Movie
Genre: Biopic
Sub-Genre: Comedy

Premise: The film covers the story of events surrounding the infamous first season of MASH. The film's central protagonist and audience viewpoint character is Bruce O'Brian, but for the most part the film is an ensemble covering the main cast of MASH as they deal with the insanity that was season 1's production. For the most part it is heavily historically accurate, though with some small liberties for comedic effect to present a surreal experience so audiences will have similar sentiments to Bruce's feelings of being in the middle of the production.

The film starts with Bruce's audition process for Radar O'Reilly, with the first 10-20 minutes covering his life at the time and struggles with breaking into Hollywood. After the beginning, the story expands to cover the other main characters though Bruce remains the protagonist with a lot of drama coming from his early experience and relationships with the rest of cast and crew. From there the film follows a largely chronological sequence of the show's production with focus on the highlights of messiness such as the fire and writer's chaos. The end of the film wraps up most of the storylines and shows the premiere of MASH and America's strong reaction towards it along with the transferring of leadership of CBS to Lucille Ball.

Cast
Bruce O'Brian
Alan Ada
Loretta Swit
Wayne Rogers
William Christopher
McLean Stevenson
Larry Linville
Larry Gelbart
 
Shao Pai Long
Shao Pai Long

Chris knew that he and his family were going to get LucasTV the moment it was announced. Not because for the chance to see Star Wars at any time they wished without needing to pay for movie tickets, nor because of the announcements for some of the coolest series he'd seen when they were shown in the promotion space (his younger sister still squeed over the chance to continue watching that Miraculous show), but it was something even more basic than that.

His father had simply said "We're getting it" and that was that. Chris wished he could say it was because he'd seen something in it that had resonated with everyone in the living room that day, but more than likely it was because of the $1.00 per month price for subscription that did it for him.

Not that he would complain, he wanted to watch Luke Cage.

And the experience, though chaotic at first, eventually settled into a pattern when everyone in the family recognized an unofficial schedule; he and his older brother preferred to watch the more mature series like Gundam, Pacific Rim and Luke Cage, his sister loved Miraculous and Atomic Betty, his mother enjoyed both Cupid and Lawyer's Dozen, and finally, his father loved just watching whatever he could see whenever he came home from work.

Hey, at $1.00 per year you're not complaining about what you get.

Still, Chris had to admit to a guilty pleasure whenever he turned on the TV to watch Macross. The series was good, no question about it, the designs were some of the coolest he'd ever seen, the fights had nearly the same impact as the ones in Gundam, and the transforming Veritechs from plans to robots? Freaking awesome! he could not, and he did not think he ever would, get enough of watching the transformation sequence of a Veritech fighter, and if he had the money he would have bought one of those like the rest of his friends at school.

No, the guilty aspect was watching at the series hoping that this was an episode that heavily featured Lin Minmei. Chris was not embarrassed (okay, perhaps he was a bit embarrassed) to say that she was the main reason that he watched the series at all. It had been during one of those days when he had the TV all to himself and had thought to see if there was anything interesting at the time, when he first saw her.

And he was entranced by both her looks and how she moved. He knew from experience, having to accompany her sister more than once on seeing her Miraculous "Anime" on how Lucasfilm's cartoons were just different from anything else that he'd seen before. In both looks and movements they always blew every other cartoon out of the water, almost as if they could jump right out of the screen and dance all around the living room.

But this time, it was like Minmei (as he soon learned her name was) had something special around her in every frame she was in, to the point that he could not take his eyes from her whenever she appeared on the screen, watching the rest of the episode just for the chance that she may appear again. But what truly sealed the deal for him, was when later on in the episode something truly magical happened, what enraptured him and kept him forever after watching each and every episode just for the chance to experience it once more...

She sang.

Shao Pai Long...Shao Pai Long...

The movements, the dancing, the colors, the music, it was all together...amazing. From that moment on, he watched the series religiously if only for the chance to hear her sing again. He came to love the show in time as well, but the main reason he watched it never changed. It was a guilty pleasure that he'd carried with him, though one that inadvertedly helped him break the ice whenever he went to school; he was not the only fan of the show there, and the talks around recess about which of the girls was the best was one of the highlights for the day. He'd met so many who agree with him about Lin Minmei's song and how amazing it was.

Enough for them to try something bold.

Chris was not sure who it was that suggested it at first, at times it seemed like something he would do, but at the same time he could not be completely sure as they had been in the zone that day when they had been complaining about how hard it was to wait or know when one of the episodes when the songs would show during the series. Sometimes needing to wait over three months just for the one chance. The suggestion to try and write to Lucasfilms had been greeted with laughs at first, until soon arguments started dropping in, each more serious than the last.

By the end of that recess, each had a mission; write a letter, then find someone else to do the same, ad nauseum.

It was a harrowing month to be sure. Making sure to write the letter was not the main problem, it was then having to find someone else that could also do it what would prove a challenge; convincing his mother was an exercise in futility that brought perhaps some of the most embarrassing moments in his life (to the point that he would bring those with him to the grave), he never tried asking his father (he would be too busy to even try anyways) and as for his siblings... his older brother was cool with it, but his sister, oh did he have to pay for her help through it all.

The waiting for the answer was the hardest part, one that kept him both in expectation and hopelessness, sometimes sleeping and others not. By the second week he was feeling exhausted, and by the third he was sure that there was not going to be any answer at all, and that perhaps he should just try to adjust to learn when the songs would once more make an appearance during the show.

That is until one of his friends from school called him to tell him the news; the answer was in the comics! One of the page adds in nearly all of the new editions where they announced the chance to have a soundtrack from the show, a limited offer to buy through mail!

And if he thought that the last month had been difficult, having to find any and all kind of chores and small jobs to be able to get the money on time was the most anxiety inducing period of time in his life. On the other hand, his relationship with his father actually improved when they had something to talk about that was in common between them. He actually showed pride at the fact that Chris was looking for his own money.

He tried to not let his smile show that much.

When he finally got his soundtrack though, he nearly drove everyone at home nuts when he played it at all times of the day, eventually having to compromise on when he could listen to it, but at the very least he now could hear his favorite songs as much as he liked. Not that it stopped him from watching Macross in order to see Minmei though, not when he found in that very add something that he hadn't noticed the first time around; the actress who'd voiced her was not the one who'd sang. That honor was reserved for someone else...

Mari Iijima.

He'd known that the song was clearly not English from the beginning, but it had not truly hit him until that moment that he'd been listening to a Japanese song. Not that it stopped him though, but it did expand his horizons when that very add also came with some information about her releasing a new album this year.

One talk later with his friends, the information about the album delivered, and they were once more going back to writing letters, once more trying to find more people who'll help them in their mission, and once more going back to working at odd jobs to get more money to buy said album when the time comes.

But hey, at least he'll keep his father's respect, along with a brand-new music album when all it's done.

Now, if only he could find a way to get an autograph...

A.N.: I've had the idea for having a fan of Macross be such a fan of Minmei that they become fans of the actual singer, thus creating a fanbase for her in the U.S. just because of that one role that she had in Japan (and Kawamori's decision to keep the Japanese songs instead of trying to use different ones).
 
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Marvel created its "Eclipse" Comic Line, announcing new and exciting stories of a more mature and comic bent, new visions for new aspiring writers and artists

I'm confused, I thought Marvel Eclipse was in reference to a line of "American Manga" for people who want to draw manga instead of traditional western comics. Thus it's name is Eclipse as a pun on Japan being the land of the rising sun and to mix with Sunrise and Sunset. What's the point of Eclipse?

I think it would have been better to follow Orion's method he talked about a while back where each Marvel comic has a color coded spine signifying what age it's targeted to, though obviously not his weird idea of "25 and older". It's a soft version of the video game system but that way it doesn't hardline brands into certain groups like how Eclipse has to only be mature stories and they can't incldue stuff like slice of life or romance.

I think it was Kaiser Chris, who suggested that it could be done as a Disney anime instead,

When I wrote that I thought I was pretty clear that it was a joke considering Disney's recent weabooism and interest in partnering with anime studios. I'm sorry but I just don't think that Evangelion, at least as a straight production of OTL, can work for Disney. There is a MAJOR difference in doing darker stuff like War of the Worlds and Nightmare Before Christmas and straight up Evangelion. Disney would get all squirmey with the religious imagery which would bring hell from the religious folks, the Disney leadership is still broadly very culturally conservative, and Evangelion has concepts and scenes that would be very alienating to the general public, hence Nova's reference to Shinji's infamous hospital scene. It doesn't matter if anime is more popular in America, shit like that would get instantly banned by the FCC.

Evangelion really lucked out OTL in how it was distributed. It didn't appear on any major cable networks and was spread through the early internet and VHS tapes which cultivated a niche audience. That audience shared Eva with their friends and built a fandom in America, and then niche channels supported Eva being on TV, but it wasn't mainstream or on a major channel so no one cares. By the time Eva finally does get mainstream, it's built a huge global fanbase and weird shit like Third Impact or Shinji's gross stuff is not an issue because of other shows breaking the mold for mainstream.

I really don't think Evangelion fits the Disney brand and once again I must stress that Evangelion would only get a fraction of its OTL success because Pacific Rim beat it and Gundam is super mainstream, with the coffin being surrounded with concrete thanks to Zeta Gundam. Being a child soldier actually sucks ass? Zeta Gundam did it with Kamille. Fighting monsters in mechs is horrifying? Pacific Rim did that. Honestly the only things that Eva has going for it is the designs, shock of Third Impact, and Asuka and Rei as waifus. At best it would probably have the popularity of Darling in the Franxx, makes a splash for a year or two thanks to concept and waifus, then no one gives a shit in the long term.

I don't think Evangelion being less successful, irrelevant or not existing at all is a bad thing, I thing it's a neat consequence of butterflies and storytelling in this quest. We just have to accept that sometimes good actions lead to bad consequences, and Pacific Rim and Gundam's success just so happened to negatively affect Eva. Hell, I think at this point even The Simpsons is going to have a lot less success because animation is starting to not be seen as just kiddie stuff and stuff like The Nguyens is already leading the way with sitcom subversions.

Not to mention that the creation of Evangelion has to follow a super specific series of events. First, Anno has to get depression following Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water and Uru in Blue. Second, Uru in Blue has to fail and it has to have the same themes. Third, Anno's motivations of making anime more accessible and reinventing mecha have to stay (which isn't true). Fourth, Gainax still has to undergo its mess of production which radically altered the story.

If you want an example of Disney acquiring anime and it making sense, just look at how I did Lupin III. Disney supported Miyazaki to distribute Castle of Cagliostro, this happened because they wanted a counter to Dreamworks, Castle of Cagliostro and Lupin III still happened independently of butterflies. Castle of Cagliostro is a box office hit, Sunrise anime shows that animation targeting adults can be successful, Lupin III Part 2 is very successful in Japan and follows Miyazaki's character changes to be more accessible for general audiences. Heist and adventure stories are a hit. Disney distributes Lupin III Part 2 on Disney Channel.

but more than likely it was because of the $1.00 per month price for subscription that did it for him.

Small correction, LucasTV is $1 PER YEAR. That's a pretty big deal back then and practically near free. If it was a dollar per month it'd be roughly the same price as HBO.

Do love the omake though. Pretty organic development to have American fanclubs for Japanese idols and Japanese music start to gain mainstream attraction. Kinda crazy that Madonna and Britney Spears will have to compete with Idols.

Also ngl, I'm kind of planning an omake where Alessandra Mussolini's Tokyo Fantasy becomes a mainstream hit, lol.
 
I'm confused, I thought Marvel Eclipse was in reference to a line of "American Manga" for people who want to draw manga instead of traditional western comics. Thus it's name is Eclipse as a pun on Japan being the land of the rising sun and to mix with Sunrise and Sunset. What's the point of Eclipse?
That's Don's perspective since he doesn't have the entire picture, so he's making assumptions. I'm trying to write from the POV's perspective and knowledge instead of an omniscient one. Sometimes I succeed, others not so much.
 
Movie Pitch: Ever After: A Cinderella Story
I kind of wanted for us to do another movie that was also part of the Disney Classics, but also different in the same vein than "Snow White and the Huntsman", and frankly, "Ever After" fits all the boxes right then and there. It's a good movie in my opinion, and the historical fiction angle is one that I can clearly see perhaps being tried in different takes for the different Grimm Tales movies. Now, whether they then go for a darker tone, it will depend on the content creator.

And to be honest, I really can't wait for the day when we finally release our adaptations on the Grimm Tales. Disney is going to be shitting bricks on that day, when they finally realize that they don't have full control on whoever makes this kind of films, and that they can be just as good as their old classics.

At the same time, I also have to admit that for all that we've made good movies, we tend to follow a distinct patter, mostly that we don't have that many romance tales, and I really hope that we can at least give something for that genre in order to avoid being seen as unable to do anything with it.

Thus, I give you:

Movie Pitch:
Ever After: A Cinderella Story


GENRE: Romance/Drama/Comedy

SUBGENRE: Historical/Adventure/Fairy Tale

FORMAT: Movie

Set Up: Based on the tale of Cinderella recollected by the Brothers Grimm. The tale begins with said brothers arriving at the home of a wealthy Grande Dame who speaks of the many legends surrounding the fable of the cinder girl before telling the "true" story of her ancestor, Danielle; With the sudden death of her loving father, Danielle is made a servant by her new stepmother. She also has two new stepsisters, one quite kind but the other one really horrid. Still, Danielle grows up to be a happy and strong-willed young lady, and one day her path crosses that of handsome Prince Henry, who has troubles of his own at home. Luckily the nice Leonardo da Vinci is on hand to help all round.

Director: Ron Howard
Composer: George Fenton

Danielle de Barbarac: She is the only child of the widowed Auguste de Barbarac and the late Nicole de Lancret. Although Danielle seems to have been born into a respectable position in society as a landowner and a lady, she is used by her stepmother, the Baroness Rodmilla de Ghent, as a house slave. She is well-read, as evidenced by her love of books and quoting of Thomas More's book Utopia. She is fearless when it comes to saving people, however, she is less adept at standing up to her step-family, although she improves.

Played By: Meg Ryan
Alternate: Daryl Hannah

Prince Henry of France: He is the only child of King Francis I of France and Queen Marie, making him heir to the throne of France. At first, he seems arrogant, spoiled and inconsiderate, but this may be less his personality and more a result of his lack of direction in life. In general he seems to be less charming than one would expect, letting the opinions of others influence his actions. However, with Danielle's influence, he becomes more open-minded, assertive and kind.

Played By: Tom Hanks
Alternate: Matt Dillon

Baroness Rodmilla de Ghent: She is Danielle's stepmother. Her first husband was the late Baron of Ghent, and her second husband was the late Auguste de Barbarac. She has two daughters, Marguerite and Jacqueline. She is hard-working, ambitious, cruel, and proud. She values her "imperial blood" above all else, using it as an excuse to treat others like dirt. Indeed, she hates Danielle more for her "common" blood rather than for her looks, talents, or her relationship with the prince, but it is also implied that she may also hate Danielle for her father giving his dying declaration of love to his daughter instead of Rodmilla.

Played By: Jean Marsh
Alternate: Anjelica Huston

Marguerite de Ghent: She is the eldest and favorite daughter of Rodmilla de Ghent. Her father is the late Baron of Ghent. Marguerite is vain, cruel, and selfish. She never takes action and passively lets her mother dictate her life. The only exception to this is when she burns Danielle's book. She spares no expense when preparing for the ball, and she has no respect for any of her many expensive dresses, moodily throwing them on the floor and crumpling them as she pleases. She does not care for anyone but herself, even turning on her own mother when she thought it would benefit her.

Played By: Helen Hunt
Alternate: Joanne Whalley

Jacqueline de Ghent: She is the less-favored of Rodmilla de Ghent's two daughters. Her father is the late Baron of Ghent. She is a very kind-hearted, caring, gentle, but weak-willed person. She is friendly to Danielle but dares not to stand up to her bullying mother and sister. She is awkward, as shown when Jacqueline tries to impress the prince by stuffing her feather into the front of her clothes, and she is whiny, as seen when she moodily complains about her costume for the ball and when she complains that Marguerite gets to do everything. However, when pushed to the limit, she can be bold and cunning.

Played By: Brooker Shields
Alternate: Jennifer Connely
King Francis I of France: He is the King of France, married to Queen Marie and has one son, Prince Henry. he is insistent that Henry marries Princess Gabriella of Spain. When Henry refuses, Francis gives him a final chance; there will be a ball held, and if he can find someone to marry there then the engagement can be cancelled, but if not then Henry will have to marry Gabriella.

Played By: Timothy West

Queen Marie of France: She is the Queen of France through marriage to King Francis I of France. She is more sympathetic to Henry's desires, even telling Francis how whoever Henry marries should be someone he agrees with. She was tricked by Rodmilla into believing Danielle was already engaged, only finding out at the end, leaving the punishment in Danielle's hands.

Played By: Judy Parfitt

Leonardo da Vinci: He is the artist-in-residence at the royal court of France from 1512 onwards, although in his spare time, he is a scientist and inventor. He is regarded as a bit crazy by others because his inventions can be out-of-this-world, such as the shoes with which one can walk on water. He is kind, open-minded, and does not care much for class and appearances, leading the prince to get angry with him at one point.

Played By: Patrick Godfrey

Maurice: He is a servant of the Barbarac State. Maurice is bold and cunning. After Danielle rescues him from being sold to the Americas, he nearly stands up to Rodmilla (although he is the first to try), and after Danielle is locked into the pantry, Maurice sends for Leonardo da Vinci, who then frees her.

Played By: Walter Sparrow

Louise: She is a servant of the Barbarac State. Louise is sweet, sensitive, and brave. She is the servant who tends to cry, but also the servant who defends Danielle most often. Louise, along with Paulette, comforted Danielle after the death of her father. She is the one who alerted Danielle about the theft of her dress by Rodmilla and Marguerite.

Played By: Matyelok Gibbs

Paulette: She is a servant of the Barbarac State. Paulette is firm, jolly, and feisty. She is the servant who tends to be excited, and she is the one who insults Pierre le Pieu and wishes she could spit on him. Paulette, along with Louise, comforted Danielle after the death of her father. She along with the rest tried to stop Pierre le Pieu when he came to take Danielle.

Played By: Kate Lansbury

Pierre Le Pieu: He is a self-styled/entitled businessman who has a castle and a coat of arms. He is also shown to be a rather pompous and lecherous individual. Whenever Pierre was in the town market, he would often try to woo Danielle, much to her annoyance and disinterest. When Prince Henry rejected Danielle, Pierre and Rodmilla came to an agreement where they tried to sell her to him.

Played By: Michael Elphick
Grand Dame: She is the great-great-granddaughter of Danielle de Barbarac and Prince Henry of France, and still lives in the royal palace.

Played By: Jeanne Moreau

Gustave: He is a commoner who is in his teens and has an apprenticeship with an artist. He and Danielle are childhood friends.

Played By: Jason Patric

Auguste de Barbarac: He is Danielle's father, a "Seigneur" who married Rodmilla to give his daughter a family before dying.

Played By: Jeroen Krabbé

Wilhelm Grimm and Jacob Grimm: They are brothers who have recollected different stories and folklore. They are summoned by the Grand Dame in order to hear the "true Tale" of Cinderella.

Wilhelm Grimm
Played By: Steve Guttenberg

Jacob Grimm
Played By: Jeff Goldblum

A.N.: One of my favorite parts of the film was the beginning with the Grimm Brothers, one of the most perfect examples for framing a story that I've ever seen (also, because I enjoy reading about the Grimm Brothers). I think we can make this movie around the second half of the 80s, since most of the younger actors will be perfect at around that period. I've kept the older actors fro OTL since I think they can still work in this decade.
 
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