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- alphen aan den rijn
that would be very interesting and scary moment at the same time.
but seeing she has never (as far as i can tell) ever done that i find that unlikely.
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Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest
- Thread starter King crimson
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but seeing she has never (as far as i can tell) ever done that i find that unlikely.
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- Mid-Atlantic
It is my headcanon that some of the actors who play Game of Thrones knights IRL will be among the actors playing Knights of the Round Table in our Camelot series.
With that said, it is like... 1996-97 or something, @King crimson knows for sure but I don't. The point is, this is right around the time that the first novel, Game of Thrones , was published.
I mean, yes. On the other hand, everything we've seen IS consistent with her being a basically competent mage who lives in Gotham and has a bit better grounding in magic theory and how to avoid trouble from rival practitioners than Rebecca does. There are a lot of settings where if you have enemies who are wizards, you do NOT want them to get samples of your blood, hair, and so on. If the DCQU is one of them, it would be a reasonable precaution for Cerise to be cautious about letting those drop just anywhere, and there would almost certainly be known spells for doing that.
If she's a very powerful spy-wizard, then she's doing a pretty good job of staying 'in character.' Better than Orin did, in my opinion.
That is actually a concern of mine, but it would be so gosh-darn interesting I voted for the casting choice anyway.
We could even legit try to write her in a more sympathetic way because she showed up to complain.
I mean, maybe, but it could get messy. Randomly invading a country, as opposed to a targeted strike on our man's location, is very high profile. On the other hand, a big high profile strike on Santa Prisca might be just the thing to convince Mannheim and A'Daire that the heat is all concentrating on the relatively expendable 'person of interest' Vincent Edge, and not on them... if the timing is right. Unfortunately, coordinating the timing is nigh-impossible, since we have several allies who aren't really talking to each other and whom we do not control.
Speaking of Game of Thrones, I hope we can "Chaos is a ladder" this...
The trouble is, Markovia is isolationist as fuck. The DC on a Diplomacy check to establish favorable relations with them was 283 the last time I checked. It's not impossible that we could pull that off by stacking a good team (Lex+Pamela+??? to give us a plus-ninety-something on the die roll would be a good way to generate crits). But it'd be tough.
A reasonable long-term priority though it doesn't have to be Pamela per se. Though we could use a few good Diplomacy heroes that aren't as versatile as Lex or Pamela, come to think of it.
[X] [Whale Location] Meet with Whale at the Ahab Bar
[X] [Subordinate] Send Roxanne to the meeting
[X] [Cross] Have your subordinate come alone
Roxy's at her best when she feels like she's in danger (no seriously, her Diplomacy and Intrigue both get a +2 boost). I don't think Whale is stupid enough to try kidnapping her, I do think that keeping our interactions with him deniable and on the down-low is important, and ultimately... Roxy is... kind of... expendable, much as I like her.
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
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- Romania
[X] [Whale Location] Meet with Whale at the Ahab Bar
[X] [Subordinate] Send Roxanne to the meeting
[X] [Cross] Have your subordinate come alone
[X] [Subordinate] Send Roxanne to the meeting
[X] [Cross] Have your subordinate come alone
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- Singapore
Actually, I meant send Pamela since Queen Bee is also a pheramone user. Anyone else (most men and some women) would be compromised and under her sway.
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[X] [Whale Location] Meet with Whale at the Ahab Bar
[X] [Subordinate] Send Roxanne to the meeting
[X] [Cross] Have your subordinate come alone
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- barking
That is actually a concern of mine, but it would be so gosh-darn interesting I voted for the casting choice anyway.
We could even legit try to write her in a more sympathetic way because she showed up to complain.
If you look at it one way she could be after all younger bastard brother tries to steal her throne with no prove that he is the son of the king apart from pulling a sword from a stone (I don't know much about DC version of the myth) Also he steals the throne from his uncle in some versions (Vortigern and it depends if he is Uther's brother in said versions).
Silvereagle21
Soaring through the Sky
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- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
[X] [Whale Location] Meet with Whale at the Ahab Bar
[X] [Subordinate] Send Roxanne to the meeting
[X] [Cross] Have your subordinate come alone
[X] [Subordinate] Send Roxanne to the meeting
[X] [Cross] Have your subordinate come alone
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] [Whale Location] Meet with Whale at the Ahab Bar
[X] [Subordinate] Send Roxanne to the meeting
[X] [Cross] Bring guards with your subordinate
[X] [Subordinate] Send Roxanne to the meeting
[X] [Cross] Bring guards with your subordinate
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- Mid-Atlantic
That... is a very good reason.
It's a bit unclear to me whether the relevant iteration of Queen Bee is a pheromone user, but it's certainly a valid concern, and Dr. Isley would be a logical choice in any event.
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- Singapore
Also if we do things right, we can talk Eiling to lean the Pentagon & State department into proping up Queen B's regime due to her being a US ally providing facilities (Future Construction built of course) along the lines of Guantanamo for the same legal loopholes/grey areas.
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- Mid-Atlantic
Maaaybe.
Eiling is, we are now seeing, kind of a loose cannon. I'm not sure we want to be TOO heavily tied to him. He has what we want, but he could easily become a liability.
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- barking
To be honest we should of expected something like this from a us general in DC after all General Lane and Eiling are extremely patriotic and warmongers (even if they don't know it)
Edit: I mean they were prob looking for an excuse to invade Santa Prisca anyway
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- United States
[X] [Whale Location] Meet with Whale at the Ahab Bar
[X] [Subordinate] Send Roxanne to the meeting
[X] [Cross] Have your subordinate come alone
[X] [Subordinate] Send Roxanne to the meeting
[X] [Cross] Have your subordinate come alone
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- Mid-Atlantic
I mean, the part that's weirding me out is that General
I'm not saying that's inconceivable, especially in a comic book, but still...
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- barking
Well he is trying to get someone elected that might support him, we also don;t know what other support he has also all he has also this is america even in a comic book it doesn't take much (Not that the uk is any better)
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- Singapore
A Black Ops team is possible with Presidential approval. War is another matter, which is where we can talk him into recommending us as Special Presidential Advisor to POTUS and then talk POTUS into making us Ambassador to Markovia.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
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- Los Angeles
You have already hired Cerise
I've corrected the spelling errors
Expect an update at the usual time
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
Stairs and jumping on door handles to push them open. On top of that Janus could operate an elevator even if he wouldn't understand how to properly work it (he jumps and hits the buttons). He can also just follow a human stealthily to have them do stuff for him. There are certain areas which he simply cannot enter though (he can't get into Ivo's lab for example without Cassandra putting him in a vent or something) due to many doors requiring a specific weight and eye contact to open.
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- Mid-Atlantic
So I had the idea of contemplating Intrigue teamups. First, the mega-collaboration pileup:
(Lex Intrigue 23) + (Cassandra Intrigue 2*(18-5) = 26) + (Mercy Intrigue 1.85*16 = 30) +
(Pamela Intrigue 1.75*11 = 19) + (Katherine Intrigue 1*17 = 17) +
(Roxy Intrigue (1.7*(13+2)) = 26) + (Carl Intrigue 0.8*17 = 14) +
(Marie Intrigue (1.5*15 = 23) + (Rose Intrigue 0.7*15 = 11) +
(Felicity Hacker Intrigue 1.1*18 = 20) + (Mercy Trait 10) + (Lex Trait 45) = +264
This makes the somewhat optimistic assumption that we can get Felicity to contribute as a hacker on a much larger team that has room for specialization, which seems logical but may not be possible under the rules. On the other hand, we COULD add a few more hero units to this collaboration... it's just that they all have either low Intrigue (and so contribute like +10 points +5 for Lex's bonus each) or low co-op stats (likewise). But this does mean that if we really, REALLY want to pull off a DC 250 Intrigue action... we could. Maybe even DC 300 if we were willing to accept ludicrous inefficiency everywhere else because it was that or die.
Or we can take the arguably more sensible approach of putting together high-scoring teams (e.g. +90 on the die roll) and banking on crits. This isn't inherently a bad idea. If we try it, we might try:
...
Team Brains-Brawn-Cutie
(Lex Intrigue 23) + (Mercy Intrigue 1.85*16 = 30) + (Marie Intrigue (1.5*15 = 23) + (Mercy Trait 10) + (Lex Trait 10) = 46+50
+96 on the die roll
Swapping out Cass for Marie is good for another +3 points, but I hesitate to do it simply because if I miscalculated in there somewhere we go over to a +100 bonus and we can't get exploding crits anymore.
...
It's actually kind of hard to put together strong Intrigue teams that don't revolve around Lex, because most of our Intrigue heroes don't get along with each other that well, or only get along with like one other Intrigue hero (e.g. Nygma+Carl or Katherine+Pamela). About the only person who could really shine in an Intrigue teamup is Roxy... but her stats are low enough that she can't lead collaborations of strong characters, which is actually sad. If she had a 20 or higher in any ability score she'd be absurdly OP thanks to her ability to get the best out of numerous subordinates at the same time.
Something we might want to work on.
(Lex Intrigue 23) + (Cassandra Intrigue 2*(18-5) = 26) + (Mercy Intrigue 1.85*16 = 30) +
(Pamela Intrigue 1.75*11 = 19) + (Katherine Intrigue 1*17 = 17) +
(Roxy Intrigue (1.7*(13+2)) = 26) + (Carl Intrigue 0.8*17 = 14) +
(Marie Intrigue (1.5*15 = 23) + (Rose Intrigue 0.7*15 = 11) +
(Felicity Hacker Intrigue 1.1*18 = 20) + (Mercy Trait 10) + (Lex Trait 45) = +264
This makes the somewhat optimistic assumption that we can get Felicity to contribute as a hacker on a much larger team that has room for specialization, which seems logical but may not be possible under the rules. On the other hand, we COULD add a few more hero units to this collaboration... it's just that they all have either low Intrigue (and so contribute like +10 points +5 for Lex's bonus each) or low co-op stats (likewise). But this does mean that if we really, REALLY want to pull off a DC 250 Intrigue action... we could. Maybe even DC 300 if we were willing to accept ludicrous inefficiency everywhere else because it was that or die.
Or we can take the arguably more sensible approach of putting together high-scoring teams (e.g. +90 on the die roll) and banking on crits. This isn't inherently a bad idea. If we try it, we might try:
...
Team Brains-Brawn-Cutie
(Lex Intrigue 23) + (Mercy Intrigue 1.85*16 = 30) + (Marie Intrigue (1.5*15 = 23) + (Mercy Trait 10) + (Lex Trait 10) = 46+50
+96 on the die roll
Swapping out Cass for Marie is good for another +3 points, but I hesitate to do it simply because if I miscalculated in there somewhere we go over to a +100 bonus and we can't get exploding crits anymore.
...
It's actually kind of hard to put together strong Intrigue teams that don't revolve around Lex, because most of our Intrigue heroes don't get along with each other that well, or only get along with like one other Intrigue hero (e.g. Nygma+Carl or Katherine+Pamela). About the only person who could really shine in an Intrigue teamup is Roxy... but her stats are low enough that she can't lead collaborations of strong characters, which is actually sad. If she had a 20 or higher in any ability score she'd be absurdly OP thanks to her ability to get the best out of numerous subordinates at the same time.
Something we might want to work on.
Did you already have all that worked out or did you have to come up with it on the spot?
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
So bad news everyone I'm feeling a bit under the weather right now. As such I'll delay the update a bit. The vote will be kept open but with a test coming up soon I don't know when I'll get things done. I hope to get it up tomorrow (and to feel better). Thank you all for your understanding
Most of it was already worked out in advance (the elevator part was not).
- Location
- Singapore
Avruskin.....Son of a bitch. We should have gotten that sunlight inducer using this donkey as a dry run for Superman & Pamela's research.
- Location
- California
Why are we sending Roxanne? Her middling diplomacy and risk-taking ways don't seem to mesh with an attempt to maintain a peaceful relationship.