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Erebeal said:
Well, that's probably true at the higher levels of green. Remember though that Green takes years. 6 years to complete it is good.

If we took, say, the first 6 months of next year to just get new arts and train them up to Green 1, how many arts could we try? A lot. And proportionally it wouldn't even make a great difference in how long it will take us to get through Green.
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Well, it is true that Ling Qi picks up arts pretty quick... not sure how many arts at the Green level even she'll be able to learn in six months though. The number of successes per level climbs pretty rapidly, and even with (expensive) Green stones to help cultivate her dice pool isn't going to be growing nearly as fast. Add in the almost certain pressure to try and advance stages as fast as possible (there's another year-long time limit Ling Qi faces, alas)... well, we'll see.

I'd like to see her pick up a wide range of musical arts in an assortment of elements for sure. Continue working on the Moon arts, naturally. Argent Genesis definitely. Mmmm... well, the question would be how many directions can Ling Qi explore in, given a movement to month-long turns (so 12 chances to evaluate and make decisions).

EDIT: To be honest, I'm really nervous about that move to month-long turns. Sure, it'd speed things up on the real time to quest time front, but the loss of granularity I could see being seriously fatal for responsiveness of Ling Qi's actions. And on her social choices - the quest already kind of artificially limits how many "meaningful" social actions she can do...
 
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While I do agree that the change from weeks into months is going to be a rather large change for the quest, it's also worthwhile noting that it actually makes some sense from an in-character sense. As your lifespan extends and you grow more detached from mortality, mortal constraints like "time" become more vague.

Also, it's much kinder on our QM, praise be Yrsillar.
 
I want to look at the options before voting
Adhoc vote count started by Waffle on Dec 3, 2017 at 6:21 AM, finished with 439 posts and 67 votes.
  • [X] Plan Meridians are Dorks.
    -[X] market pills: relevant ones
    -[X] rare pills : none
    -[X] Overflow: Physical
    -[X] Grinning Moon blessing : FZ
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Meridian : arm
    --[X] Share Growing Caverns for Su Ling and Li Suyin after getting Meizhen's OK. Ask them to keep an eye out for Wood sites if possible.
    -[X] Take a job
    --[X] Passion Fruit Collection
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] TRF
    --[X] Meizhen held something back in your last conversation. Press her on it, it seemed that she had some idea that might allow them to stay together
    --[X] Has she found any wood site? If so, is she looking for any sites in particular for trade for knowing its location?
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] FSA
    --[X] Use Windblown Snowfield for FSA site.
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Meridian : spine
    --[X] Spend a little time with your 'bodyguards. You should at least know what they can do in a fight
    -[X] Spend further time around Cai Renxiang, try to get into her head a little, and see what the girl is really like
    -[X] Xiulan's family apparently wants to talk to you, you should probably see to that
    -[X] Spend some time with Zeqing, you should try to better understand the snow woman, so that you don't end up offending her
    [X] Plan Forbidden Forests, Forgotten Paths
    -[X] Resources
    --[X] Purchased and used: Vigorous Sapling (2rs); 2nd level wood pill (6rs); 1st level earth pill (2rs); 2nd level earth pill (6rs); Channel Cleansing Pill (2rs); Heavy Rains Pill (10rs)
    --[X] Used from Inventory: 3 Red Spirit Stones; 1 Yellow Spirit Stone (Total cost 31rs and 1ys)
    --[X] Overflow to physical
    --[X] EPC Bonus to Fleeting Zypher
    -[X] Main Actions
    --[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    ---[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
    ---[X] Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Passion Fruit Collection
    --[X] Train with Meizhen
    ---[X] Abyssal Exhalation
    ---[X] Meizhen held something back in your last conversation. Press her on it, it seemed that she had some idea that might allow them to stay together
    ----[X] Has Meizhen stumbled on any wood sites?
    --[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    ---[X] Arm Meridian
    --[X] Cultivate on your own
    ---[X] Spine Meridian
    -[X] Minor Actions
    --[X] Spend a little time with your 'bodyguards. You should at least know what they can do in a fight
    --[X] Xiulan's family apparently wants to talk to you, you should probably see to that
    --[X] Spend some time with Zeqing, you should try to better understand the snow woman, so that you don't end up offending her
    [X] Plan Ling's Eleven
    -[X] market pills: relevant ones
    -[X] rare pills : highsun
    -[X] Grinning Moon blessing: AE
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Meridian : spine
    --[X] Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
    -[X] Do a favor for Fu Xiang
    --[X] Three
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] FSA
    --[X] Use Windblown Snowfield for FSA site.
    --[X] Meizhen held something back in your last conversation. Press her on it, it seemed that she had some idea that might allow them to stay together
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] TRF
    --[X] Xiulan's family apparently wants to talk to you, you should probably see to that
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Meridian : arm
    -[X] Spend further time around Cai Renxiang, try to get into her head a little, and see what the girl is really like
    -[X] Spend some time with Zeqing, you should try to better understand the snow woman, so that you don't end up offending her
    [X] Plan Meridians are Dorks.
    -[X] market pills: relevant ones
    -[X] rare pills : none
    -[X] Grinning Moon blessing : FZ
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Meridian : spine
    --[X] Share Growing Caverns for Su Ling and Li Suyin after getting Meizhen's OK. Ask them to keep an eye out for Wood sites if possible.
    -[X] Take a job
    --[X] Passion Fruit Collection
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] TRF
    --[X] Meizhen held something back in your last conversation. Press her on it, it seemed that she had some idea that might allow them to stay together
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] FSA
    --[X] Use Windblown Snowfield for FSA site.
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Meridian : arm
    --[X] Spend a little time with your 'bodyguards. You should at least know what they can do in a fight
    -[X] Spend further time around Cai Renxiang, try to get into her head a little, and see what the girl is really like
    -[X] Xiulan's family apparently wants to talk to you, you should probably see to that
    -[X] Spend some time with Zeqing, you should try to better understand the snow woman, so that you don't end up offending her
    [X] Plan Forbidden Forests, Forgotten Paths
    -[X] Resources
    --[X] Purchased and used: Vigorous Sapling (2rs); 2nd level wood pill (6rs); 1st level earth pill (2rs); 2nd level earth pill (6rs); Channel Cleansing Pill (2rs); Heavy Rains Pill (10rs)
    --[X] Used from Inventory: 3 Red Spirit Stones; 1 Yellow Spirit Stone (Total cost 31rs and 1ys)
    --[X] Overflow to physical
    --[X] EPC Bonus to Fleeting Zypher
    -[X] Main Actions
    --[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    ---[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
    ---[X] Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Passion Fruit Collection
    --[X] Train with Meizhen
    ---[X] Abyssal Exhalation
    ---[X] Meizhen held something back in your last conversation. Press her on it, it seemed that she had some idea that might allow them to stay together
    --[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    ---[X] Arm Meridian
    --[X] Cultivate on your own
    ---[X] Spine Meridian
    -[X] Minor Actions
    --[X] Spend a little time with your 'bodyguards. You should at least know what they can do in a fight
    --[X] Xiulan's family apparently wants to talk to you, you should probably see to that
    --[X] Spend some time with Zeqing, you should try to better understand the snow woman, so that you don't end up offending her
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@yrsillar I've just noticed we don't have any relationship with Yan Renshu; is that deliberate? I would have thought we'd at least have 1-2 dots of wary dislike or something.
 
A bit of an oversight, yeah. I'll get too that.

Anyway locking up, can I get the final tally.

Secondly, Patron Poll for the wordlbuilding section is now up. Patrons can vote for however many option they would like the one with the most in a few days will win.
 
yrsillar said:
A bit of an oversight, yeah. I'll get too that.

Anyway locking up, can I get the final tally.

Secondly, Patron Poll for the wordlbuilding section is now up. Patrons can vote for however many option they would like the one with the most in a few days will win.
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Non-Patrons can vote too! :D
Adhoc vote count started by Arkeus on Dec 3, 2017 at 8:39 AM, finished with 445 posts and 68 votes.
  • [X] Plan Meridians are Dorks.
    -[X] market pills: relevant ones
    -[X] rare pills : none
    -[X] Overflow: Physical
    -[X] Grinning Moon blessing : FZ
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Meridian : arm
    --[X] Share Growing Caverns for Su Ling and Li Suyin after getting Meizhen's OK. Ask them to keep an eye out for Wood sites if possible.
    -[X] Take a job
    --[X] Passion Fruit Collection
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] TRF
    --[X] Meizhen held something back in your last conversation. Press her on it, it seemed that she had some idea that might allow them to stay together
    --[X] Has she found any wood site? If so, is she looking for any sites in particular for trade for knowing its location?
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] FSA
    --[X] Use Windblown Snowfield for FSA site.
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Meridian : spine
    --[X] Spend a little time with your 'bodyguards. You should at least know what they can do in a fight
    -[X] Spend further time around Cai Renxiang, try to get into her head a little, and see what the girl is really like
    -[X] Xiulan's family apparently wants to talk to you, you should probably see to that
    -[X] Spend some time with Zeqing, you should try to better understand the snow woman, so that you don't end up offending her
    [X] Plan Forbidden Forests, Forgotten Paths
    -[X] Resources
    --[X] Purchased and used: Vigorous Sapling (2rs); 2nd level wood pill (6rs); 1st level earth pill (2rs); 2nd level earth pill (6rs); Channel Cleansing Pill (2rs); Heavy Rains Pill (10rs)
    --[X] Used from Inventory: 3 Red Spirit Stones; 1 Yellow Spirit Stone (Total cost 31rs and 1ys)
    --[X] Overflow to physical
    --[X] EPC Bonus to Fleeting Zypher
    -[X] Main Actions
    --[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    ---[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
    ---[X] Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Passion Fruit Collection
    --[X] Train with Meizhen
    ---[X] Abyssal Exhalation
    ---[X] Meizhen held something back in your last conversation. Press her on it, it seemed that she had some idea that might allow them to stay together
    ----[X] Has Meizhen stumbled on any wood sites?
    --[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    ---[X] Arm Meridian
    --[X] Cultivate on your own
    ---[X] Spine Meridian
    -[X] Minor Actions
    --[X] Spend a little time with your 'bodyguards. You should at least know what they can do in a fight
    --[X] Xiulan's family apparently wants to talk to you, you should probably see to that
    --[X] Spend some time with Zeqing, you should try to better understand the snow woman, so that you don't end up offending her
    [X] Plan Ling's Eleven
    -[X] market pills: relevant ones
    -[X] rare pills : highsun
    -[X] Grinning Moon blessing: AE
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Meridian : spine
    --[X] Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
    -[X] Do a favor for Fu Xiang
    --[X] Three
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] FSA
    --[X] Use Windblown Snowfield for FSA site.
    --[X] Meizhen held something back in your last conversation. Press her on it, it seemed that she had some idea that might allow them to stay together
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] TRF
    --[X] Xiulan's family apparently wants to talk to you, you should probably see to that
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Meridian : arm
    -[X] Spend further time around Cai Renxiang, try to get into her head a little, and see what the girl is really like
    -[X] Spend some time with Zeqing, you should try to better understand the snow woman, so that you don't end up offending her
    [X] Plan Meridians are Dorks.
    -[X] market pills: relevant ones
    -[X] rare pills : none
    -[X] Grinning Moon blessing : FZ
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X] Meridian : spine
    --[X] Share Growing Caverns for Su Ling and Li Suyin after getting Meizhen's OK. Ask them to keep an eye out for Wood sites if possible.
    -[X] Take a job
    --[X] Passion Fruit Collection
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] TRF
    --[X] Meizhen held something back in your last conversation. Press her on it, it seemed that she had some idea that might allow them to stay together
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] FSA
    --[X] Use Windblown Snowfield for FSA site.
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Meridian : arm
    --[X] Spend a little time with your 'bodyguards. You should at least know what they can do in a fight
    -[X] Spend further time around Cai Renxiang, try to get into her head a little, and see what the girl is really like
    -[X] Xiulan's family apparently wants to talk to you, you should probably see to that
    -[X] Spend some time with Zeqing, you should try to better understand the snow woman, so that you don't end up offending her
    [X] Plan Forbidden Forests, Forgotten Paths
    -[X] Resources
    --[X] Purchased and used: Vigorous Sapling (2rs); 2nd level wood pill (6rs); 1st level earth pill (2rs); 2nd level earth pill (6rs); Channel Cleansing Pill (2rs); Heavy Rains Pill (10rs)
    --[X] Used from Inventory: 3 Red Spirit Stones; 1 Yellow Spirit Stone (Total cost 31rs and 1ys)
    --[X] Overflow to physical
    --[X] EPC Bonus to Fleeting Zypher
    -[X] Main Actions
    --[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    ---[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
    ---[X] Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Passion Fruit Collection
    --[X] Train with Meizhen
    ---[X] Abyssal Exhalation
    ---[X] Meizhen held something back in your last conversation. Press her on it, it seemed that she had some idea that might allow them to stay together
    --[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    ---[X] Arm Meridian
    --[X] Cultivate on your own
    ---[X] Spine Meridian
    -[X] Minor Actions
    --[X] Spend a little time with your 'bodyguards. You should at least know what they can do in a fight
    --[X] Xiulan's family apparently wants to talk to you, you should probably see to that
    --[X] Spend some time with Zeqing, you should try to better understand the snow woman, so that you don't end up offending her
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Hmm, so... I was just thinking. I was pretty fine with letting go of the contingencies minor this round because I was picturing it as a multi-part action where we'd spend weeks and weeks making boltholes around the Sect. And that's honestly really annoying, and may not necessarily be of use unless we can disengage and get into a bolthole in the first place, if we happen to be nearby one.

But I just realised, this doesn't have to be the case. Huang Da used an escape talisman that time we got the better of him near the Argent Vent. A contingency like that would be really useful, and would take only a single market action. Or if the market doesn't sell it, we could maybe commission one. Still take a few weeks, but at least not a few weeks of continuously draining our actions, and once we got it, it would always be on us.

Sun Liling attacked us on week 32. We just passed week 33, and the coming week will be 34. I think I would like to strongly urge the thread that, regardless of anything else, we should take the contingencies minor for week 35. Liling kinda fucking hates us right now, so trusting her to stay her hand for longer than 3 weeks seems kinda overly optimistic.

It's good we're spending this week training with our retainers so we know what they can do if it comes down to another ambush, but I think we really need to take the contingencies minor next week. And if escape talismans are available, we should buy extra to make sure our retainers aren't left behind with an angry Sun Liling.
 
@yrsillar, here is our spirit stones before you updated the charsheet:
220 Red Stones
30 Yellow Stones
33 Sect Points
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After:
335 Red Stones
30 Yellow Stones
33 Sect Points
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We probably should not have 33 sect points, and:
Gained Grade Three Core: Water, Yin attribute
Gained Grade three Core: Wood, Yin Attribute
Gained 85 Red Spirit Stones
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Income After Expenditure: 125 Red Stones
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Is the latter including the 85 spirit stones? If it does, shouldn't we have 345, not 335? if it doesn't, shouldn't we have 220+85+125=430?

Beside that, is there a reason the 'Yin' part o the cores disappeared in the description in the inventory?
 
Kai Merah said:
Hmm, so... I was just thinking. I was pretty fine with letting go of the contingencies minor this round because I was picturing it as a multi-part action where we'd spend weeks and weeks making boltholes around the Sect. And that's honestly really annoying, and may not necessarily be of use unless we can disengage and get into a bolthole in the first place, if we happen to be nearby one.

But I just realised, this doesn't have to be the case. Huang Da used an escape talisman that time we got the better of him near the Argent Vent. A contingency like that would be really useful, and would take only a single market action. Or if the market doesn't sell it, we could maybe commission one. Still take a few weeks, but at least not a few weeks of continuously draining our actions, and once we got it, it would always be on us.

Sun Liling attacked us on week 32. We just passed week 33, and the coming week will be 34. I think I would like to strongly urge the thread that, regardless of anything else, we should take the contingencies minor for week 35. Liling kinda fucking hates us right now, so trusting her to stay her hand for longer than 3 weeks seems kinda overly optimistic.

It's good we're spending this week training with our retainers so we know what they can do if it comes down to another ambush, but I think we really need to take the contingencies minor next week. And if escape talismans are available, we should buy extra to make sure our retainers aren't left behind with an angry Sun Liling.
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I've been pushing for that action for a while now, and even if it's a multi-step process, that just means we needed to have started earlier.
 
PrimalShadow said:
Well, it is good to have that pinned down.

Though now it appears that I have no idea what "physical" means. Oh well.
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Well, they're sound blasts. Think like it's Han Fang's Thunderclaps. And Thunderclaps are considered Physical.

Essentially attacks that hurt the body are physical. And attacks that hurt the soul are Spiritual.
 
PrimalShadow said:
Well, it is good to have that pinned down.

Though now it appears that I have no idea what "physical" means. Oh well.
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I was reading it as spiritual are more abstract/mental effects like Meizhen's intimidation or most debuffs whereas physical refers to attacks that do obvious physical damage like most weapon attacks. Not sure if things like Xiulan's fire would be physical or spiritual but maybe both?
 
So, we are finally going to meet Cousin Tai- unless the Gu clan reassessed our value.

What are your thought on Cousin Tai? Is the famous Cousin clan a Count clan? more? Is he a buff General, or something else? Clearly he can't be a wimpy green kid, right?
 
Kind of strange that a silk dress would provide armor at all :p

to be less pithy. Essentially the formations that create 'armor' as a mechanical effect defend against all forms of physical trauma. So like Xiulan's fireblasts are physical attacks, so are Cai's lazors. Elegy is a spiritual attack, Meizhen's aura is a spiritual attack, and so are Su Ling's illusions, though they have a physical component in the fire half of things.
 
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Kind of strange that a silk dress would provide armor at all :p

to be less pithy. Essentially the formations that create 'armor' as a mechanical effect defend against all forms of physical trauma. So like Xiulan's fireblasts are physical attacks, so are Cai's lazors. Elegy is a spiritual attack, Meizhen's aura is a spiritual attack, and so are Su Ling's illusions, though they have a physical component in the fire half of things.
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Does this means it doesn't matter that the Gu clan focus on spiritual arts, the actual attacks are all counted as 'physical'?
 
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