Isn't Heizu wood/water ?
Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
- Start date
- Original Fantasy
Isn't Heizu wood/water ?
- Location
- The Void
but as can clearly see the thing we found wasn't an Azure dragon
Powerful reptile =/= It is a Dragon
Or the elder needed to kill one of them before they could bind the other, and it didn't matter which, but the elder was better suited at striking a decisive blow against the comparatively unarmored regenerator than the heavily armored tortoise. We have no clue what realm Kohatu was, she could have been higher, a peer, or lower than tortoise dad. Probably not a full realm lower, since the kind of undying vitality displayed seems a bit extreme for Cyan, but it's not like we actually have reference points.
So what I hear you saying is Precious' parent was a dinosaur!
- Location
- The Void
My personal pet theory was somekind of Komodo dragon or giant lizard (would be thematic if an animal able to regrow its tail would be able to power its regen fifty years after its death at a high enough realm) but I guess it is basically the same thing
So yes Mommy was a fire turtle, Daddy was a dinosaure, and Precious is just best
- Location
- his hidden lair
Xuan Shi is totally in the right bracket to be married to a a potentially prestigious and up and coming ducal retainer. It might not be on the cards until CRX's position as heir is secure, or Ling Qi has further established herself as CRX's right hand, but that's not going to take long by cultivator standards and it's not at all out there.
Yeah, he's a ducal scion- but he's at least a grand son of the twin Admirals, and I don't think those were the actual heads of the Xuan House. Ducal families are going to be big precisely so they can have advantageous political marriages.
Why couldn't it be an azure dragon ? Also yes there are wood dragon then. Heizu is one after all.
Wood is a lot more tanky than fire as an element. Killing someone specialised in regenerating is going to be pretty hard either way.
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- The Void
the absence of Water Qi in the cave/ or in Zhengui ? Especially with the fact that all the Azure dragons have the Water, or at least Lake, element in them since it is pretty much their gimmicks ?
You are still trying to prove that the thing was obviously a dragon when we have no ideas spirit beast it was. It could be a new breed never seen before by the entire Empire, it could be another creature from the barbarian lands, in either case we can't declare it as fait accompli when we know nothing about it.
The insect birthed by it/living on it were water/wood.
And zhengui might not have water because it's the opposite element of fire, so it got thrown out when his dad made (?) him.
Xuan wu normally are born from the union of a snake and a turtle. It isn't the case here, but there are mythologically powerfull that are (sometimes) considered like snake. Those being the dragons (teng dragon snake for exemple). It's a relativelly small step to consider dragons as the parents of Xuan Wu.
Second thing to consider is when the Xuanwu came into being. The original xuan wu was prism (?) when the empire was made. This allow us to estimate when he was born as the monkey king was a sublime ancestor at the founding of the empire, and half grown by the time the dragon war happened. This permit to situate when the first Xuan Wu was born, which is sometimes around the fall of the dragons. This is interesting because we know dragons were cursed around then with a low fertility. Xuan Wus might very well have been the dragons attempt to have children that didn't have a low fertility.
Lastly, and I admit this one is weaker, we know Xuan Wu are water/ earth or mountain, there is an heaven variant and finally zhengui. Guess what those three element (outside of water) each map to a dragon. Earth dragon, heaven dragon and wood water dragon.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Unless your an ambush predator. Which I'm pretty sure some snakes are.
- Location
- The Void
Quote ? From what I read we saw nothing on the elemental makeup of the insect birthed by the corpse ?
we know tht Fire/Water arts do exist so it is possible, and it was never said that those two were opposed, or that opposite elements exist at all and could not be added for that matter into a single spirit beast, hell I bet that some beasts in the Far North are Fire/Water from living near submarine volcanoes
"Xuan Wu descend from serpents in the myths, dragons can be considered serpents, so Zhengui is obviously a descendant of Dragons then" is a pretty big step and run into the problem that you are using traditional myths on dragons as established fact/to prove your claims, but FoD is explicitly an original setting created by Yrsillar, running with an unique creational myth and origin for species like Dragons.
Case in point, after Zhengui's birth we did spend a minor for researching xuan wus, and at no point have we ever heard that they are descended from Dragons, not from the archives, not from the Xuan, not from Heizui himself who would have been happy to poke Zhengui with the fact that he is a 'half-breed' or something in the eye of a true dragon like him.
Gluing IRL myths in FoD is the same mistake as doing the same thing with IRL China and the political state of the empire, or saying that we know how some characters will act because Yrs took inspiration from existing mangas/anime. He made an original setting so until he says the opposite I will not try to put other fictions or real world myths into it.
Or the Turtlesnakes are just the result of spirit beasts having kids before the age of dragons ?
Hell it is like saying that the Bai Serpent is the result of a Dragon feeling lonely and deciding to be as close as Ji Rong was with AE's Worms since they look like dragons without feet and that the Sublim Ancestor of the Bai was born during their time.
You are still presenting this facts as a something that is evident when your only proofs subjectifs or from putting IRL myths into an original setting.
Xuan wu could all be descendant of dragons or they could be their own things, but the former is still in the domain of theories since we have been given no clues in-story about it, we shouldn't take it as proven until we actually know that it is.
The corpse mimic core was water wood.
That's so very wrong I don't know where to start.
1) fire and water are opposing elements.
We have been told that explicitely.
2) We have yet to see a spirit beast with opposing elements.
This despite us being on a mountain with argent vents, which should be the exact place where they would crop up.
Balance seems to be an human thing, which is relativelly logical because humans are explicitely born from two opposing great spirits (order and chaos).
Expecting chinese mythology to be used in xianxia is a big step.
I have no words.
Like we didn't hear about how they were from dinosaur or some kind of giant lizard.
Your point being ?
The timeline make that impossible, otherwise the original Xuan Wu would have ascended much before.
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- scrabbling
So I've been wondering—the various pre-Imperial-standardization systems have their own names for the Realms (Sin Shedding, Fifth Heaven, etc.). Do they also have their own names for elements of qi, or their own names for meridians, or are those simply less abstract than realm?
Variation's a bit less likely in the case of qi elements, but for the most totally obvious example I'd totally believe that the Bai don't call Leg meridians Leg meridians, and others have some other small deviations.
Variation's a bit less likely in the case of qi elements, but for the most totally obvious example I'd totally believe that the Bai don't call Leg meridians Leg meridians, and others have some other small deviations.
- Location
- The Void
who wasn't something birthed by the corpse as far as we know ?
and we have never been told that having some elements mean that you can't use another, like ever ?
Because we have never seen one in a single mountain during the single year we spent in a small part of an Asia sized Empire they do not exist ?
>Expect Chinese mythology to be used in a xianxia
> ignore every single change added to the setting starting with the very creation myth
Yes, you are not the one who has no words
...Wait, are you talking about that ?
I mean, I don't know what to say : that it was my "personal pet theory" mean that it is a fanon thing, a theory that I don't present as a fact, thing that you have been doing.My personal pet theory was somekind of Komodo dragon or giant lizard (would be thematic if an animal able to regrow its tail would be able to power its regen fifty years after its death at a high enough realm) but I guess it is basically the same thing
So yes Mommy was a fire turtle, Daddy was a dinosaure, and Precious is just bestsonbrother.
And the thing with the dinosaure is clearly me joking around with another quester by throwing ideas at a wall, I even added a smiley to get my point across !
I think I said it before but let's do it again: you can have your personal theory, hell it is half the fun of following a fiction, but you can't present it as a fact without proofs or WoG: I said "giant lizard" but I never onced tried to present it as what happened
"Original" Xuan Wu, yet another fact that you are presenting as a fait accompli, because if we go with the "he is the oldest so obviously the first" then no monkeys existed before the Reveler decided to have comrades to drink under the table and no one had the chance to date a snek waifu before Bao the Fisher ran accross Proto-Meizhen.
and since we have no ideas how much time it takes for a normal beast t ascend to Prism without a cultivator or if every are xuan wu descendants of the Living Island so your point on the chronology showing that the Xuan couldn't have evolved on their own is kinda moot isn't it ?
Especially since Yrsillar said that it takes more than just time for a spirit to reach White, for all we know he might have waited a long time ?
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I am always deadly serious about dinosaurs
Because we've seen so many spirits...
We haven't exactly filled up the pokedex here you know?
Volcanic Tyrant Tortoises are fire/mountain. We've also literally seen the two of them. One of them is a serpentine reptile thing of some kind, the other a giant tortoise. Kohatu was killed by having her core shattered. If you're going to do a decisive core-strike on something, regeneration is a lot less of a deterrent than armor is.
Note, I'm not advancing this as a firm theory for the downfall of the pair, because my official position is that we have no clue and that you're pulling things out of your butt. Still, your objections to the theoretical I concocted (to demonstrate that alternative explanations exist and we shouldn't assume) isn't very sound.
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Titanic Struggles
- Location
- United States of America
Titanic Struggles: Exhibition
Wu Chao stood amongst his sixteen peers, the victors of the preliminary round of the Inner Sect Tournament. His bronze armor shone resplendently in the morning light and while he was not the strongest amongst this year's hopefuls, Wu Chao was confident in his chances to secure a place among the Inner Sect disciples.
The attention of the crowd was intense though, and he could feel the weight of Duchess Cai Renxiang's qi bearing down on him through his qi senses. Straightening his shoulders, he attempted to ignore that feeling and concentrate at the space in front of him. At any moment, the Sect Head would give his speech and then the final winnowing would begin. And then, with a flash of light, Chen Hui, the Sect Head, appeared before the crowd. He appeared as an elderly gentleman, with his thinning gray hair and cane, but there was a palpable press of power emanating from him.
With a clearing of the Sect Head's throat, the crowd quieted down and Chen Hui began to speak with a voice like the grinding of mountains, "Thank you all for coming to the Argent Sect's Inner Sect Tournament this year. All of the individuals who now stand before you have strived against hardships and endured tribulations to present themselves as candidates for our Inner Sect. These are the strongest the Outer Sect has to offer, and it is my pride to allow them to exhibit their cultivation and skills to you."
"However," Chen Hui continued, "Our Inner Sect can only accept the eight best from this tournament, and so another round of matches need to be held to determine the final few who will be accepted. Before those matches occur though, we typically have an Exhibition match between the Elders of the Sect to show the heights of cultivation that might be reached. Given the numerous august personages present, however, an allowance has been made. Duchess Cai has expressed her desire to exhibit her peerless strength and Count Ling has volunteered to be her opponent."
Quiet murmurs ran through the crowd and Wu Chao shifted uneasily. Hopefully, his new perception art would not allow him to crack under the weight of Duchess Cai's potent qi. This… was probably going to be painful, even with the tournament formations holding back the qi of the two contestants considerably.
"I will endeavor to contain the clash within the stage of the tournament," continued the elderly man, "and our venerable Elder Hu will maintain the stage's formations. Now, disciples, pay careful attention for the chance to witness the peak of cultivation is vanishingly rare. Please, I invite my honored guests to present themselves upon the stage."
With a flash of light, both Duchess Cai and Count Ling appeared on the stage. The Duchess wore perfectly tailored clothes which shone with their very own radiance but left very little to the imagination. Count Ling's, on the other hand, was much more conservative, revealing only her face and star-filled hair. Duchess Cai smiled slightly and offered a respectful bow to Chen Hui.
"Thank you for allowing this match, it is rare that I am able to actually indulge myself in a spar."
Count Ling herself offered a respectful bow to both the Sect Head and Duchess Cai. "I also thank you for this opportunity. It is exhilarating to be able to demonstrate the heights of cultivation at the same place where I began my journey and saw the heights myself."
"Now, if both contestants are ready," Chen Hui began, "then this exhibition match will begin until first blood!" And with a thunderous retort, the world dissolved around Wu Chao.
He was floating in the sky surrounded by nothing but the void. Ahead of him and stretching beyond sight was an ever-shifting mountain chain. It's peaks and valleys grinding against each other in absolute silence as lightning continuously forked around the mountains. But what quickly drew his attention was a glistening, shining, floating mountain of Metal.
No, not a mountain, but a city of metal with an enormous tower protruding from its center. Everything in the city was precise and perfect in form and purpose from the dancers parading through the streets to the guards guarding the ramparts. What would it be like, Wu Chao wondered, to enter that city and find your purpose among its populace. To be guided until you could find the perfect role and be a part of the seamless purpose and goal of the City?
But there was another presence, like the feeling of moonlight upon the skin. Lighter than a feather, but no less real. Tearing his gaze from the majestic city, Wu Chao gazed to the space below the city.
A jagged ice field spread out across the ground, seemingly going out into the distant horizon. Glittering ridges of ice protruded in strange patterns that seemed to shift in his vision creating patterns of shadow and darkness. And in the middle of this strange ice field stood a small estate made of crystalline ice. The buildings sparkled under the light of the city floating above but the windows seemed to absorb all light, and the doors appeared to be portals to the void itself.
And then he saw, reflected in some properly angled panes of ice creating the roofs in the Estate, the Moon, flickering through various phases seemingly at random. Not all the phases were there, and for the most part, it seemed that the Dreaming Moon was predominant.
The images only lasted a moment though, as a melody began resounding through his ears. A melody expressing loss, of being utterly alone in the world with none even remembering your name. Of absolute isolation from comrades, friends, and family.
With a shuddering breath, Wu Chao almost slid to his knees, tears brimming at his eyes. How awful must it be to lose family and friends? To have no connections to support and comfort you? The lightning coursing through the Mountain Range suddenly intensified to eye-searing brilliance and the melody faded to a faint murmur. Even still, Wu Chao stayed on his knees watching as terrible black mists shrouded the entirety of the ice field, covering everything in a thick blanket.
The brilliant city did not stay still though, and it began to launch a veritable avalanche of missiles from its siege engines atop the city's walls. Brilliant bolts of technicolored power ripped through the mists and plowed into the ice field. A change began taking place, however, and the missiles began slowing down and some even shattering as a silent wind of absolute cold began blowing upwards towards the city. The very qi powering the missiles was being frozen and stolen by the wind and with every bit of qi taken the wind moved a little faster towards the city carrying with it the black mists.
Shutters around the City's tower opened up slightly and a scathing light burst into existence. Focused by crystals upon the walls, these searchlights obliterated the mists as they focused on the spot where the estate had been covered in the mists. However, to Wu Chao's surprise, the estate was no longer there, instead, it was more of the jagged ice field.
Shifting with surprising swiftness, even as the wind continued to blow upwards, the searchlights cut through the mists until they seemingly all focused on a random spot which was predictably covered in mists. Yet, there it was, the Estate in all of its crystalline glory. Living shadows seemed to shrink at the harsh light but even more spirited away into the mists still covering the majority of the ice fields.
One of the gates lining the city opened then, and a brilliant rainbow shot out directly at the estate. It was thrumming with power and it was not slowed in the slightest by the wind still rising towards the floating city.
Crystals of frozen moonlight appeared before the bolt and attempted to divert or redirect the massive beam away from the estate. Yet each on contact absorbing only a fraction of the bolt each time. While it was adding up, it was still not enough to stop the bolt from its course. Then, with a crack like a mountain splitting in two, a huge ice flow rose with incredible speed from the ice field and took the bolt head on.
A thunderous explosion rocked the battle, and when the light settled the ice flow had a thin crack which was seeping an incredibly viscous black liquid. There seemed to be a moment of absolute stillness between the two combatants before a whispered breath was exhaled. The murmurings of the melody ceased and with a flash of light the void disappeared and the tournament grounds reappeared.
Wu Chao struggled to regain his composure, as the murmurings of the crowd washed over him. That was the terrifying heights of cultivation. It was strange, to see that even though he stacked up well against his peers today, he was still utterly insignificant to those who wielded true power.
A/N:
Well, this one fought me a bit, so I'm glad that it's out. As you can tell, it is far in the future, like 700 years in the future. So that's why Cai Renxiang is the Duchess and both Ling and Cai are Whites. Also, why the Sect Head is dead, as he would have died of old age a long time before this. I thought of having one of our friends be the Sect Head, but that felt really weird and none of them seem like they would do a good job. Anyways, this is a possible finished domain of a Ling Qi who focused on ice, darkness, moon, and wind. Cai's domain is purposefully like her mothers, but instead of her face, it is a lighthouse type tower to symbolize her goal to lead people on the correct paths and not force her perception of order and justice upon them. I didn't have a Ling/Bai or a Cai/Bai fight because I'm not sure what Meizhen's domain would look like other than absolute terror.
I think this is the first time I really tried to develop a fight scene, and certainly the first time I've worked with white level characters. So, as always critiques and criticisms are welcomed. I hope you enjoy the read.
@yrsillar another omake for the omake throne.
Wu Chao stood amongst his sixteen peers, the victors of the preliminary round of the Inner Sect Tournament. His bronze armor shone resplendently in the morning light and while he was not the strongest amongst this year's hopefuls, Wu Chao was confident in his chances to secure a place among the Inner Sect disciples.
The attention of the crowd was intense though, and he could feel the weight of Duchess Cai Renxiang's qi bearing down on him through his qi senses. Straightening his shoulders, he attempted to ignore that feeling and concentrate at the space in front of him. At any moment, the Sect Head would give his speech and then the final winnowing would begin. And then, with a flash of light, Chen Hui, the Sect Head, appeared before the crowd. He appeared as an elderly gentleman, with his thinning gray hair and cane, but there was a palpable press of power emanating from him.
With a clearing of the Sect Head's throat, the crowd quieted down and Chen Hui began to speak with a voice like the grinding of mountains, "Thank you all for coming to the Argent Sect's Inner Sect Tournament this year. All of the individuals who now stand before you have strived against hardships and endured tribulations to present themselves as candidates for our Inner Sect. These are the strongest the Outer Sect has to offer, and it is my pride to allow them to exhibit their cultivation and skills to you."
"However," Chen Hui continued, "Our Inner Sect can only accept the eight best from this tournament, and so another round of matches need to be held to determine the final few who will be accepted. Before those matches occur though, we typically have an Exhibition match between the Elders of the Sect to show the heights of cultivation that might be reached. Given the numerous august personages present, however, an allowance has been made. Duchess Cai has expressed her desire to exhibit her peerless strength and Count Ling has volunteered to be her opponent."
Quiet murmurs ran through the crowd and Wu Chao shifted uneasily. Hopefully, his new perception art would not allow him to crack under the weight of Duchess Cai's potent qi. This… was probably going to be painful, even with the tournament formations holding back the qi of the two contestants considerably.
"I will endeavor to contain the clash within the stage of the tournament," continued the elderly man, "and our venerable Elder Hu will maintain the stage's formations. Now, disciples, pay careful attention for the chance to witness the peak of cultivation is vanishingly rare. Please, I invite my honored guests to present themselves upon the stage."
With a flash of light, both Duchess Cai and Count Ling appeared on the stage. The Duchess wore perfectly tailored clothes which shone with their very own radiance but left very little to the imagination. Count Ling's, on the other hand, was much more conservative, revealing only her face and star-filled hair. Duchess Cai smiled slightly and offered a respectful bow to Chen Hui.
"Thank you for allowing this match, it is rare that I am able to actually indulge myself in a spar."
Count Ling herself offered a respectful bow to both the Sect Head and Duchess Cai. "I also thank you for this opportunity. It is exhilarating to be able to demonstrate the heights of cultivation at the same place where I began my journey and saw the heights myself."
"Now, if both contestants are ready," Chen Hui began, "then this exhibition match will begin until first blood!" And with a thunderous retort, the world dissolved around Wu Chao.
He was floating in the sky surrounded by nothing but the void. Ahead of him and stretching beyond sight was an ever-shifting mountain chain. It's peaks and valleys grinding against each other in absolute silence as lightning continuously forked around the mountains. But what quickly drew his attention was a glistening, shining, floating mountain of Metal.
No, not a mountain, but a city of metal with an enormous tower protruding from its center. Everything in the city was precise and perfect in form and purpose from the dancers parading through the streets to the guards guarding the ramparts. What would it be like, Wu Chao wondered, to enter that city and find your purpose among its populace. To be guided until you could find the perfect role and be a part of the seamless purpose and goal of the City?
But there was another presence, like the feeling of moonlight upon the skin. Lighter than a feather, but no less real. Tearing his gaze from the majestic city, Wu Chao gazed to the space below the city.
A jagged ice field spread out across the ground, seemingly going out into the distant horizon. Glittering ridges of ice protruded in strange patterns that seemed to shift in his vision creating patterns of shadow and darkness. And in the middle of this strange ice field stood a small estate made of crystalline ice. The buildings sparkled under the light of the city floating above but the windows seemed to absorb all light, and the doors appeared to be portals to the void itself.
And then he saw, reflected in some properly angled panes of ice creating the roofs in the Estate, the Moon, flickering through various phases seemingly at random. Not all the phases were there, and for the most part, it seemed that the Dreaming Moon was predominant.
The images only lasted a moment though, as a melody began resounding through his ears. A melody expressing loss, of being utterly alone in the world with none even remembering your name. Of absolute isolation from comrades, friends, and family.
With a shuddering breath, Wu Chao almost slid to his knees, tears brimming at his eyes. How awful must it be to lose family and friends? To have no connections to support and comfort you? The lightning coursing through the Mountain Range suddenly intensified to eye-searing brilliance and the melody faded to a faint murmur. Even still, Wu Chao stayed on his knees watching as terrible black mists shrouded the entirety of the ice field, covering everything in a thick blanket.
The brilliant city did not stay still though, and it began to launch a veritable avalanche of missiles from its siege engines atop the city's walls. Brilliant bolts of technicolored power ripped through the mists and plowed into the ice field. A change began taking place, however, and the missiles began slowing down and some even shattering as a silent wind of absolute cold began blowing upwards towards the city. The very qi powering the missiles was being frozen and stolen by the wind and with every bit of qi taken the wind moved a little faster towards the city carrying with it the black mists.
Shutters around the City's tower opened up slightly and a scathing light burst into existence. Focused by crystals upon the walls, these searchlights obliterated the mists as they focused on the spot where the estate had been covered in the mists. However, to Wu Chao's surprise, the estate was no longer there, instead, it was more of the jagged ice field.
Shifting with surprising swiftness, even as the wind continued to blow upwards, the searchlights cut through the mists until they seemingly all focused on a random spot which was predictably covered in mists. Yet, there it was, the Estate in all of its crystalline glory. Living shadows seemed to shrink at the harsh light but even more spirited away into the mists still covering the majority of the ice fields.
One of the gates lining the city opened then, and a brilliant rainbow shot out directly at the estate. It was thrumming with power and it was not slowed in the slightest by the wind still rising towards the floating city.
Crystals of frozen moonlight appeared before the bolt and attempted to divert or redirect the massive beam away from the estate. Yet each on contact absorbing only a fraction of the bolt each time. While it was adding up, it was still not enough to stop the bolt from its course. Then, with a crack like a mountain splitting in two, a huge ice flow rose with incredible speed from the ice field and took the bolt head on.
A thunderous explosion rocked the battle, and when the light settled the ice flow had a thin crack which was seeping an incredibly viscous black liquid. There seemed to be a moment of absolute stillness between the two combatants before a whispered breath was exhaled. The murmurings of the melody ceased and with a flash of light the void disappeared and the tournament grounds reappeared.
Wu Chao struggled to regain his composure, as the murmurings of the crowd washed over him. That was the terrifying heights of cultivation. It was strange, to see that even though he stacked up well against his peers today, he was still utterly insignificant to those who wielded true power.
A/N:
Well, this one fought me a bit, so I'm glad that it's out. As you can tell, it is far in the future, like 700 years in the future. So that's why Cai Renxiang is the Duchess and both Ling and Cai are Whites. Also, why the Sect Head is dead, as he would have died of old age a long time before this. I thought of having one of our friends be the Sect Head, but that felt really weird and none of them seem like they would do a good job. Anyways, this is a possible finished domain of a Ling Qi who focused on ice, darkness, moon, and wind. Cai's domain is purposefully like her mothers, but instead of her face, it is a lighthouse type tower to symbolize her goal to lead people on the correct paths and not force her perception of order and justice upon them. I didn't have a Ling/Bai or a Cai/Bai fight because I'm not sure what Meizhen's domain would look like other than absolute terror.
I think this is the first time I really tried to develop a fight scene, and certainly the first time I've worked with white level characters. So, as always critiques and criticisms are welcomed. I hope you enjoy the read.
@yrsillar another omake for the omake throne.
Sirrocco
Pedantic
Are you kidding? The Xuan admiral was near-*wincing* that his grand-nephew hadn't had enough clue to try to snap us up. They wanted to marry/recruit us *so bad*. Admittedly, it was at least as much about Zhengui as anything else, and our showing up to that point in the tournament probably contributed, but yeah. Even after he acknowledged that CRX had nabbed us fair and square and it was inappropriate to poach, he still trawled out a (very deniable) invitation for us to come up accompanying him, and was again disappointed when Ling Qi pulled a Perfect Conversational Dodge on it.
"Honorable Grand-newphew has indeed done well at the Sect, but why? Why didn't he at least try to go for it? She was *right there*. She *asked him for help with the Xuanwu*. What is *wrong* with the boy?"
It's true that being friendly doesn't mean that they want a marriage alliance... but they totally want a marriage alliance. The little moments where the Admiral is disappointed but still friendly and CRX is pleased are a dead giveaway.
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- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
So I already posted about this. Here you are.
I still have no idea how people are thinking that the subtext was about marriage.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Because Husbando shopping was a talk around the time the chapter came out, so people adjusted their reading and memory of said chapter to be about marriage.
Determination is nowhere near enough, though its useful to keep trying.
Trying the right way is still needed.
Earth usually favors things like Badgers, Trapdoor Spiders and the like actually.
Prepare a field and let your opponent walk into it.
We saw Shen Hu's swamp field strategy as an example.
Exceptions as always, exist.
Actually from what I can tell spirit beasts and spirits in general with multiple elements exist, but are rare as fuck to begin with, so its no surprise we never saw opposed elemental spirits. Odds are good that such spirits are usually:
-Very rare
-Very powerful
-and/or have synthesized their opposition into a new element.
Naw, because its a high politick environment, which means the double and triple meanings needs to be observed.
The question is which layer takes precedence, not which layer exists:
-Layer 1: Its just an invitation to visit.
-Layer 2: Its a light attempt to poach Ling Qi for a vassal. But why? See 3 and 4
-Layer 3: Its looking for a mate for Zhengui -> Odd that they're disappointed when Ling Qi focused the reply on Zhengui visiting. -> Could still be a facade tho
-Layer 4: Its looking for a marriage offer with Ling Qi to make sure all the Xuanwus are still in the family. -> Would make some sense why Ling Qi's reply would disappoint them.
-Layer 5: Its looking for a deeper alliance with the Cai via Ling Qi/Zhengui visiting as an excuse
-Layer 6: For SCIENCE OF COURSE!
There is enough of an implication to say there is some interest on their part, especially with a branch family member of little importance being expended to reel a recruitment prospect in, but not enough to say that its their primary, or even secondary goal.