Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

The Ling Qi Dictionary

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Individuals of a lower realm that are used to replenish Ling Qi's qi. Especially useful after a great expenditure of qi, or when playing a long attrition game against a peer opponent. They are of no use defeated, and so the accepted strategy is to leave them depleted of qi and shivering in the mists in order for the targeted individual to last for multiple uses as a qi battery.
Thinking about it, this is a viable strategy for allies too weak to actually fight.
Give your minions BIG Qi pools (default to low talent culitvators since they quickly can't cultivate anything other than Qi), and Art(s) that allow them to either regenerate Qi somehow (ie:Zhengui immobile regen) or stockpile even more Qi (ie: Ling Qi 25Qi moon light thing), and even two (or more?) realms lower allies become useful in a high level combat.
Of course you need both loyal minions build to, and willing to, be drained possibly multiple times, AND you need someway to protect them from being either taken out early (Shen Hu strategy) or drained by your opponent.

I would argue that this is a better use of human resources than throwing the minions at the enemy and hope for multi-target bonus.
Imagine fighting a Cyan peer opponent with a couple dozen Red/Yellow minions, I imagine that the, say, potentially drain-able thousand Qi off your minions is more useful than trying to have them actually fight the Cyan dude.
And I'm pretty sure all the minions would MUCH rather get drained than have to fight against someone that can kill them all by only farting in their general direction...

The thing is that on the larger stage, Shen Hu isn't an enemy. In some sense, I would have been happier if they both advanced but neither showed anything off. The more tricks Ling Qi kept in the bag until she fought someone directly in Liling's camp or in an elimination stage, the better.
Not really. Ling Qi only shown very high cost AoE Arts and mostly stuff that is going to be useless in a 1-vs-1 fight.
The only thing she shown is her resistance to dispels and enemy debuffs, and (arguably) good flying and dodging ability towards those Earth Spikes Art.
We shown our Flying Weapon for a bit too now that think about it, but none of it's abilities (... which, is really strange... how did he ignore the Qi drain ?) .
Whereas Shen Hu has shown almost his entire hand: attack arts, debufs, Flying weapon, Spirit pet, defense arts and even his mobility stuff.
It's hard to imagine he has anything left hidden...

From outside PoV, Ling Qi is a mini monster that steamrolls even teams of prepared peak yellows, and convincingly beat a cultivator of a higher level than herself. Without even using her spirit, or taking a single hit!
How many people got out of the premils without getting touched ? CRX, Meizhen and Liling (and Kang ridding on Sun's train). And iirc none of them faced serious(green) opposition, let alone a higher level opponent.
Everyone else is exhausted, or at least bruised.


Rather than a reversal of fortunes, the face game between the two heirs is even now.
I am not entirely sure it is.
CRX's side has the distinguished advantage of having two allies (Meizhen and Han Jian) on top of her minions passing the prelims. Sun only has minions Kang and Ji Rong.
From an outside perspective, i think CRX faction is much more attractive.
 
I am not entirely sure it is.
CRX's side has the distinguished advantage of having two allies (Meizhen and Han Jian)

After what Han Fang did, I don't think we can cpunt HJ as an ally anymore. Xiulan tho is a good one.

Also, a thing nobody put out for the current vote is the fact that Li Suyin is worried about meeting her familly. As such, I am changing my vote to help our minion.

[X] Seek out Li Suyin, she should be getting out of her own equivalent to the prelims after all
 
CRX is the leader of the outer sect council, and HJ is siting in it. And actually has been on it since the start.
The fact that his minion sneak-attacked and took out one of Sun Liling's minions in a competition does nothing to disprove the (arguably tenuous) alliance between the two of them.
 
So it could entirely happen that they put Han Jian vs Xiulan to take her out and then she smashes him.

It could, but I highly doubt it'd go that way. Losing to Xiulan is pretty much Han Jian's preferred scenario (despite the consequences being terrible), but I just don't see it going that way. Given the internal difficulties between the Gu and Han, I would think the Han would prefer Han Jian to potentially lose to anyone other than Xiulan, because even loss of face from losing to a commoner is better than the loss of face from losing to a...overly willful subordinate, since the latter doesn't just cast doubt in the strength as a cultivator, but also of the clan's ability as a whole to keep their nominal subordinates under control. Even a win would be tainted since there would be rumors than Xiulan was ordered to throw the match to Han Jian.

The only clear non-student level actor who would love to see the Han Jian vs Xiulan match would be the Gu, and I don't think they have enough pull to accomplish it when the Han would prefer just about anything else, and it seems like the type of fight that would reflect poorly on the sect elders.
 
CRX is the leader of the outer sect council, and HJ is siting in it. And actually has been on it since the start.
The fact that his minion sneak-attacked and took out one of Sun Liling's minions in a competition does nothing to disprove the (arguably tenuous) alliance between the two of them.
More relevantly, it still says to people that being allied with her until the tournament paid off.
 
Whereas Shen Hu has shown almost his entire hand: attack arts, debufs, Flying weapon, Spirit pet, defense arts and even his mobility stuff.
It's hard to imagine he has anything left hidden...
Field spells. Yrs said he might have whomped us if he had stayed in one place and turtled. Plus, I'm pretty sure he has at least one trump card left. He used all Earth, Mountain, and Lake stuff. I'm pretty sure he has some wood arts though.
 
[X] Seek out Li Suyin, she should be getting out of her own equivalent to the prelims after all

Minion maintenance is important and one of our political visitors mentioned our relationship. Definitely don't want to leave her hanging.

The whole fight was great, but my favorite part was seeing everything from the scrubs' perspective; really gave some weight to our abilities.
 
So I started re-reading the quest and found two interesting things.

Perhaps if the Sect had managed to produce a good crop of Ministry or Imperial Guard candidates she could speak to her superiors on the matter.

So that's the most relevant currently. KZ familly are imperial guards, so he will probably be one too. As such the sect will want him to succeed as he would bring funding.

Damn things got too smart when they tasted human blood.

And this is interesting because it mean drinking human blood help the cultivation of spirit beasts. Feeding barbarians to Zhengui might be a good idea therefore.
 
And this is interesting because it mean drinking human blood help the cultivation of spirit beasts. Feeding barbarians to Zhengui might be a good idea therefore.
Keep in mind that was also the musings of an old farmer whose interactions with spirit beasts are limited to cowering in his house and/or running away screaming. While it does make sense that human blood, particularly cultivator blood, could help spirits with their growth, he's not the most reliable source.
 
[X] ...Seek out Shen Hu, he gave you quite a runaround, it can't hurt to make nice with a peer like him

Regarding the Ro16 matchups, i think that Ji Rong/Kang Zihao vs Chu Song is very likely for multiple reasons. First off, Chu cut ties with the Sun faction relatively publically, so getting beat down and kept out of inner sect is the sort of response that they want to give lest other vassals in their sphere get uppity. Second, Sun faction wants both Ji Rong and Kang Zihao to move on to Inner Sect as well as show off to continue to crush Cai faction in terms of face. Finally, there's also a strong narrative component for Ji Rong to face off against his former mentor in order to showcase his personal growth and having moved on, if you look at it from his perspective rather than ours.
Chu Song was actually a pretty great friend to Ji Rong so I'd like to think he wouldn't aim to fight her to demonstrate personal growth or punish her for leaving the Sun faction. Not that he has much say in this, but specifically in regards to his perspective on such a fight.
 
Keep in mind that was also the musings of an old farmer whose interactions with spirit beasts are limited to cowering in his house and/or running away screaming. While it does make sense that human blood, particularly cultivator blood, could help spirits with their growth, he's not the most reliable source.
Noting that its in genre. Eating humans is noted to be one of the ways that a supernatural beast in the mythology awakens to intelligence and power.
They're like...1/3 of the antagonists in Journey to the West, while we know of at least two extremely powerful spirits that eat people(SnowMom and FoxMom).
 
RE the fight:

Both Ling Qi and Shen Hu played to their strengths. Shen Hu by setting up the swamp field and shouting 'come at me if you are strong enough', and Ling Qi by setting up her debuff mist and using the yellow cultivators to replenish her qi. It was just that Ling Qi strategy trumped Shen Hu because Ling Qi flew instead of entering his death-swamp, while her mist had enough range to hit him with impunity while slowly whittling him down with the mist.

It wasn't that his strategy was flawed or that he himself was weaker than Ling Qi, it was that Ling Qi's strategy negated his advantages and played to her strengths.
 
Sun Liling Interlude
In a harshly lit garden of tall yellow flowers, at the center of the verdant compound which belonged to the Sun family, the heir of Sun Shao scowled at her own reflection in the pond that sat at its center. She hated mirrors. These sorts of meditative ponds were supposed to help with reflection, but all they ever did was irritate her. Her reflection scowled back at her from the pond, and looking at it's soft, feminine features twisting into that ugly expression just made her mood worse.

Snorting, she turned away and closed her eyes, letting out a breath in accordance with her art of cultivation, allowing a trickle of energy to cycle through her Ajna chakra and calm her emotions. It was just so damned annoying, how useless these easterners were. Things had been going well enough, though she was never going to let Lu Feng live down getting jumped like that. Those useless twits who had been up against Ling Qi though…

She hadn't even expected them to win. She had only really expected them to wound and embarrass, but they couldn't even manage that even with all the resources they put in. As it was, that Cai witch wasn't looking half as bad as she had wanted.

Once again, Sun Liling cursed her own poor judgement, which had handed the Bai a strong piece. Looking back, it would have been a much better move to isolate the snake further. If she had just spent a bit of effort being friendly, she was sure that the lonely commoner she had met that day would have latched on to her as strongly as she had the Bai.

Letting out her breath, Sun Liling opened her eyes. There was no use stewing on the past, and besides, from what she could feel approaching, she had much more important concerns. As the door at the edge of the garden opened, a genuine smile bloomed across her face as she sprang over the pond, running toward the man who had just entered the room.

Grandfather caught her easily as she embraced him, not rocking back even a step. Right here, with his beard tickling her cheek and his heavily calloused hand resting affectionately on her head, Sun Liling could forget the troubles and humiliations of the last year. Even if his true body was back in the capital, it still felt the same. The one place in all the world that was utterly safe, where she could allow herself a little weakness. "Grandpa, I've missed you so much," she murmured, her voice muffled by the thick red fabric of his robe.

"Likewise, my little warrior," The elder cultivator replied quietly, his deep voice softened by affection. Though she wasn't looking at his face, Sun Liling knew that the dark crimson eyes and stern, craggy features which sent courtiers and soldiers alike scurrying, would be lit by love that belonged only to her.

For a moment, they stayed like that, content under the harsh light of the false sun that lit the garden, before Sun Liling reluctantly stepped back and bowed her head to her grandfather. As wonderful as it was to see him again… she couldn't put this off. "Grandfather, I must apologize, your unworthy granddaughter has failed to live up to the name of Sun," the words tasted like ash in her mouth, as she discarded her affectation for common speech. Even if she knew he would be understanding, it only made it worse. Grandfather doted upon her, and she had still failed to bring him glory.

She heard him sigh, his wide shoulders rising and falling, and he raised a hand to stroke strands of the wide white beard which hung over his chest. "I will not blame you overmuch for the impetuousness of youth," he replied, his rumbling voice seriousness. "For that is the purpose of the Sect. Have you learned your lessons in this?"

"I have grandfather," Sun Liling replied quietly, not yet raising her head. "I have relied too much upon direct force, and neglected my preparations and intelligence. My timing was too impulsive."

"Then raise your head," Sun Shao replied evenly. "It is my failing as well, that I neglected your education in strategy in favor of tactics and combat. I did not expect your time in the Sect to require such things."

"The Cai heiress is no easy enemy," Sun Liling replied bitterly. "For all that she is the lesser in a fight." It was only that Cai gown which even gave her a chance of standing up to her in a fight.

"Do not lose sight of the real enemy, Liling," Sun Shao warned. "We have no true quarrel with the Cai, despite her daughter's distasteful choice in allies. It is the Bai girl that you must focus your efforts on. Everything else is but a minor game."

"Of course, grandfather," Sun Liling replied, lowering her eyes. She knew that the Sun could absolutely not afford to look weak in the face of the increasingly resurgent Bai. While the imperial throne was still against them, the will to continue antagonizing the ancient clan was growing weaker by the year, for many reasons, of which she only knew a handful.

"As long as you understand," Sun Shao said gravely, even as he stepped forward, to once again rest his hand on her head. "Everything for family," he said quietly.

"Everything for family," she repeated back formally.

"Hah," the older man let out a chuckle. "Enough of this. You have mastered the Scarlet Devil Raiment, and begun the Sanguine Ashura Armament, have you not? I think it is time that your old grandpa showed you a new trick or two."

A grin once again lit Sun Liling's face, as her grandfather lead her deeper into the garden.

AN: As requested, a short lil Sun Liling interlude in the aftermath of the prelims :p
 
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Firstly not going to transcribe all the rolls, for labor reasons.

maybe it's just the phrasing that's confusing me (or my complete lack of understanding of process. ok, that's the most likely reason), but 'transcribing' the rolls should be the easiest/most trivial part of this whole mess, a simple copy/paste

heck you could have an app automatically put the result in the clipboard so you don't even need to copy, just paste


i only keep bringing this up because it sounds like yrs is doing this the hard way (or the 'not easiest way' at least)
 
Pretty cool. I continue to like Lilling's genuine regret for snubbing us, though I have less than zero regrets for choosing Meizhen.

Those useless twits who had been up against Ling Qi though…

She hadn't even expected them to win. They were just supposed to wound and embarass, but they couldn't even manage that even with all the resources they put in. As it was, that Cai witch wasn't looking half as bad as she had wanted.

Hehehehehehe

I think we did rather well.
 
In a harshly lit garden of tall yellow flowers, at the center of the verdant compound which belonged to the Sun family. The heir of Sun Liling scowled at her own reflection in the pond that sat at its center. She hated mirrors.These sorts of meditative spots were supposed to help with reflection, but all they ever did was irritate her. Her reflection scowled back at her from the pond, and looking at it's soft, feminine features twisting into that ugly expression just made her mood worse.
Isn't Liling a bit too young to be a mother? :p
 

[X] ...Seek out Shen Hu, he gave you quite a runaround, it can't hurt to make nice with a peer like him

Once again, Sun Liling cursed her own poor judgement, which had handed the Bai a strong piece. Looking back, it would have been a much better move to isolate the snake further. If she had just spent a bit of effort being friendly, she was sure that the lonely commoner she had met that day would have latched on to her as strongly as she had the Bai.
When the anti-social snek is better at social than you.
"Hah," the older man let out a chuckle. "Enough of this. You have mastered the Scarlet Devil Raiment, and begun the Sanguine Ashura Armament, have you not? I think it is time that your old grandpa showed you a new trick or two."
She going to have multi-arms now?
 
Through the Looking Glass
Through the Looking Glass

Snow and ice swirled around Zeqing as she watched Hanyi practice the latest measures of her song. Hanyi was making progress, maybe it was time to finally consume/devour/absorb… no. It was time to go back home and perhaps enjoy a cup of wine to settle herself.

"Hanyi," Zeqing beckoned, "you've done an excellent job today. It is growing late, however, and it is time to return home."

Hanyi looked at her, with eyes like crystals shimmering in the dying sun, and nodded her head tiredly.

As Zeqing knelt down and picked Hanyi up for the flight back home, Hanyi perked up and asked, "Hey, Mama? Do you think that if Zhengui comes by later I could stay up a bit past my bedtime and go sledding with him? He hasn't been over in forever!"

"We'll see, it depends on the time."

As the world blurred past them, Zeqing allowed Hanyi to rest against her shoulder. The bubbling desire and hunger rose up again inside of her at this close proximity, but it was with practiced ease that those emotions and wants were quashed.

It was as she was getting closer to her home, that Zeqing sensed a familiar presence dispersing from her home. Now… what would Xin be doing here at this time, but couldn't stay for a drink? Probably something to do with a ploy she was engaged in at the moment.

As she landed at her door, and gently set Hanyi down, a small package caught her eye. A letter addressed to her and a small box that it was tied to.

After preparing the meal for the evening, and letting Hanyi loose in the backyard to play, Zeqing finally opened up the letter.

"Dear Zeqing, While you could not come to see the Outer Sect trials in person, it would be a shame to not witness the fruits of your student's labors first hand. As such, please feel free to borrow this formation for the week. It will allow you to remotely view the trials from your home.

Sincerely, Xin
P.S.
I will have to come by and reclaim the formation after the tournament however, my dear husband would be quite cross with me should he learn that this particular item had disappeared."

With a huff, Zeqing opened the small box and inspected the intricately carved stone. Indeed, there was a trigger that would allow her to remotely view the stages of the tournament. There was also a trigger that allowed the stone to project the image upon a still surface, allowing those of a… less defined spirit to view as well.

Moving to a less used and more open room, Zeqing shifted her house to provide a large shallow pond in the middle. Triggering the projection ability, she placed it in the pool. The perfectly flat and crystal clear water allowed the formation to perfectly project the image allowing anyone in the room to see a singular stage.

With a flick of her qi, Zeqing shifted between the stages and didn't see where her student was. Disgruntled, she settled on watching the bloody demon for the time. It was a terribly boring match, there was simply no competition between the demon and her prey. The only one who could have offered a challenge seemed to be allied to the demon anyway! A singularly disappointing match.

Apparently, however, there was a second round! After sifting through the stages, Zeqing was able to find the stage that Ling Qi would be playing in. Not a lot of competition though, except for one male that seemed to be progressing nicely through his third realm.

"Hanyi," Zeqing called out, "There is something here that you might want to see."

Hanyi ran over to the room and looked inside. "Hey Mama, what are you looking at?"

"It appears that Ling Qi is about to present her skills in front of the Sect and its guests. Come, let's see how well she will do and the fruition of her training."

Zeqing sat down on an appearing bench, and Hanyi sat on her lap so that both could easily see what would be happening in the match.

As the stage formed, Zeqing couldn't help but chuckle with mirth at the grounds that Ling Qi found herself in. Even Ling Qi found it amusing. However, it was a long moment before Ling Qi decided to proceed forward with a plan.

Zeqing hummed in appreciation as the mists flowed away from Ling Qi in its full glory. It was amusing to watch the rabble attempt to dispel the mists but to have their tricks thwarted by the technique that Ling Qi had finished just a week ago.

But, much to Zeqing's delight, the show was just starting. Ling Qi had apparently decided to hunt the largest prey available in this stage, and press herself against an individual who was even further along his path than she was.

The boy was strong, and it was apparent that Ling Qi would struggle besting such a challenge in a headlong conflict. When Ling Qi peeled away from the boy, it was slightly disappointing, until Zeqing recognized the strategy. A bead of cold pride grew in herself at what Ling Qi was attempting to do.

"Mama," Hanyi whined, "why is big sister running away from the dirty mud boy? She can totally beat him!"

"Watch closely Hanyi," Zeqing murmured, "and ask yourself why she is letting the rabble stay conscious."

Hanyi leaned closer and peered deeply into the pool. "Oh!" Hanyi exclaimed, "Is she doing the same thing we do to other spirits, taking their qi for ourselves? That's so smart! She can just keep attacking him forever without letting him fight her back!"

"Just so, but things are never as simple as they seem. The boy is strong, let us see how he responds to this."

Zeqing watched as the boy and his spirit companion left their ground after Ling Qi 'retreated' for the second time. The boy had apparently decided to traverse through the ground itself to hunt the people that Ling Qi was using to replenish her qi. It seemed that he was succeeding as well.

Ling Qi was chasing him around the mountain to… some effect. Her mist seemed incapable of holding him stationary and so he kept retreating and rapidly moving towards another target of his.

"So, Hanyi. What should Ling Qi be doing here to beat the boy? It doesn't appear that what she is doing is very effective right now."

"Ummm… be faster? Call him a cheater? Because he is totally cheating right now."

"Perhaps, but listen closely now because you may one day find yourself in a similar situation. Of hunting a beast that can outpace you, but is too weak to confront you. Find the thing the beast must have, and then take it for yourself. Find the thing the beast wants, and hold it close to your heart.

It will force the beast to confront you, for if he does not have that which you have taken he will surely perish. If he must face you and can no longer flee, then the battle has already been won. So, what can Ling Qi do here to force the boy to confront her?"

"Big Sister could… capture a couple of the rabble and cage them in a single location? If the Dirty Mud Boy is trying to beat up all of the rabble, then holding some of the rabble near her would force him to come to her."

"Quite right, Hanyi. Good job. You'll have to tell her that when next she comes to practice and train. She can be forgiven though, after all, she is so very young, even amongst her kind."

The battle took quite a while to end but it was enjoyable to watch. A game of hide and seek where the rabble were always the losers. Eventually, though, Ling Qi and the boy were the last ones in the stage, and the mountains began to dissolve around them. It was quite the humorous show. Perhaps the next round would be just as entertaining.

A/N
@yrsillar Another Omake for the Omake Throne! Although I do have to lament at my timing, being right after an official update does make my writing look poorer by comparison.

Anyway, I haven't done an omake in awhile, and while this plot bunny wouldn't leave me, it was a challenge to write. I still feel as though something is off with the perspective of what I'm writing. Well, it's done and posted. As always, critiques and criticisms are always welcomed!
 
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Grandfather caught her easily as she embraced him, not rocking back even a step. Right here, with his beard tickling her cheek and his heavily calloused hand resting affectionately on her head, Sun Liling could forget the troubles and humiliations of the last year. Even if his true body was back in the capital, it still felt the same. The one place in all the world that was utterly safe, where she could allow herself a little weakness. "Grandpa, I've missed you so much," she murmured, her voice muffled by the thick red fabric of his robe.
It's so fucking weird to see Sun Liling be a grandpa's girl.
 
maybe it's just the phrasing that's confusing me (or my complete lack of understanding of process. ok, that's the most likely reason), but 'transcribing' the rolls should be the easiest/most trivial part of this whole mess, a simple copy/paste

heck you could have an app automatically put the result in the clipboard so you don't even need to copy, just paste


i only keep bringing this up because it sounds like yrs is doing this the hard way (or the 'not easiest way' at least)
look at his previous posts. there is a fuckload of formatting that goes in to displaying the rolls for ease of reading.
 
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