Dont do it @yrsillar keep the tension alive for as long as possible
Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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Maybe we will get an interlude with the elders arguing about how the brackets will be.
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Thanks for the information!
Can't wait to see what you come up with!
Honestly, we can ask her if she wants to put on a show or if she just wants to take the free pass as is.
No one is going to fault a vassal stepping down for their lord given that's all but literally our freaking job.
If we end up fighting Meizhen or Renxiang, I say we just have fun with it. PLR, TRF-buffed worms further buffed by Encircling Winds + Pressure Crack, just quirky nonsense.
That last bit is actually a brutal finisher if we can weaken an enemy a bit and prevent them from thinning out the numbers on our side, but it's not all that practical.
That last bit is actually a brutal finisher if we can weaken an enemy a bit and prevent them from thinning out the numbers on our side, but it's not all that practical.
DeusExBritannia
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Speaking of updates, do you have a set update schedule you follow or timeframes you try to aim for?
Not particularly. His pace varies depending on the circumstances. At worst he usually manages at least one update a week.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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If you want it faster put some money into the patron. If it gets high enough we might be able to get daily updates.
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It's been a hot topic of debate. We can asume the monsters are getting in. The next spots are up in the air, but it's likely us, Kang Zihao and Ji Rong. That would leave the last spots between Gu Xiulan, Shen Hu, Wen Ai, Chu Song, and Han Jian (he's not likely to take the opportunity though).
As for production track, we don't know a lot of people. Xuan Shi should get in, as will Yan Renshu and Fu Xiang. Li Suyin has good chances, but it is possible she will fail.
Dont forget that Fatty Hao is also on the table, presumably.
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This is not an acceptable way to interact with another poster. You are on very thin ice in this thread, especially after this. @TehChron has been given a 25 point infraction and a one week threadban.
DeAnno
Sometimes words have two meanings
The nice thing about us facing CRX is we don't have to make any decisions about throwing the fight. CRX will make that decision for us and tell us what to do. I would actually be very surprised if she didn't tell us to try to beat her and win, though.
welp, her funeral
welp, her funeral
While I'd be impressed if Ling Qi could manage it, I do think it's unlikely that she has a chance to pull off an upset of this magnitude.
If she could, then it's a real shame that we didn't take the Sect route...
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Imperial institution when the central power is weak (as it is now) have very little power of their own.
Really not. The sect need the high nobility. The high nobility don't need the sect.
Trafic of influence is not corruption.
You don't more accurately.
They are not.
You don't understand why people are sent to the sect. It's both to show off and to make connections. Someone that has succeed to put their minions high enough that they are fighting against each others has won the outer sect game. The tournament is irrelevant at this point.
Anyway, good job for your gish gallop that is literally impossible to respond to without breaking rules apparently.
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You joke, but I think we can pressure her enough she has to use Liming bullshit to be sure of her victory, which is all but a loss in all honesty.welp, her funeral
Also has decent chances of post knock-out cultivation dreams and mid-combat breakthroughs.
I disagree. They should both be capable of reliably beating Renxiang. Both are personal combat focused and have been devoting significantly more time to cultivation. Wheras we've seen some of what Renxiang has been doing in the past few weeks, which includes a significant focus on support arts.
The only real question is Liming. We know that it was powerful enough back in late second realm to allow CRX to significantly contest a newly green Liling. If it has improved consumately she might stand a chance. On the other hand Cui was occupying Liling's spirit at that point so I'm not so confident.
I agree with you that Renxiang will probably be the final opponent, unless Shenhua has something else in mind.
On a seperate matter I've been thinking about face in this tournament.
One thing I do wonder about, who would it be worse for CRX to lose to, in terms of loss of face?
Sun obviously has the issue of her well documented feud, and the Gan Ganguli thing. On the other hand she is a princess, acknowledged heir to the Sun dukedom and has recieved tutoring and much favour and resources from Sun Shao himself. The Sun's exertion of their power and resources, both in the year and in this tournament, has been extremly obvious and vastly out of proportion to what is usual, even for one of such exalted position. It is also obvous that Cai has not enjoyed the same level of unlimited favour and credit from Shenhua. A loss to the Sun would be a loss of face certainly, especially in light of their rivalry, but it would be loss to an acknowleged peer, who has had to vastly overspend on resources and capital to achieve a (fairly slim) victory.
By contrast Meizhen is an ally, and a defeat would sting less from that perspective, but as others have noted she is merely a member of a ducal house. In contrast to Sun Meizhen has had much lesser resources over the years than Cai, although still much greater than anyone not from a ducal house could expect. Indeed she is the daughter of someone who was, rightly or wrongly, executed for treason against the throne. So Meizehn beating Cai, who is from a family of strong throne supporters could send a powerful message, especially if she also beats Sun.
Another part of the issue is that Cai is somewhat support focused compared to the other two. This is a fine and expected style for a high noble, and might somewhat mitigate the loss of face from being beaten by them*, except thanks to Shenhua's prescence and (lack of) meddling, Renxiang hasn't had a chance to show that off, instead putting on a show with indomitable tyrant art in the only stage she could have shown off her group combat skills, which could make her look weaker than she really is come the finals.
Politically the best result for everyone is probably Meizhen beating Sun but narrowly losing (or at least appearing to) to Cai in a clearly friendly match. But that depends on behind the scenes politics as well I suspect.
*I expect Han Jian not to suffer too badly in fae terms should he lose due to this, although he does have Heijin, so less excuse than Cai.
If Ling Qi makes it into G4 her opponent would be Sun Liling, any other option is tantamount to setting Sun Liling to fail from the semi-finals.
If Ling Qi fights against Bai/Cai it means that Liling fights the other ducal scion in the semi-finals, who has nothing to lose and would force Sun Liling to show all her tricks and possibly use one-shot items. Afterwards Liling would face a comparatively fresh ducal scion (Since Ling Qi is friends with Bai Meizhen, vassal of Cai Renxiang and hates Sun Liling).
Facing two relatively fresh ducal scions one after another is all but guaranteeing that Sun Liling would lose.
Also I think that the sect is unlikely to set a vassal to fight against their lord because it could easily turn boring if the vassal concedes, which is a real possibility.
If Ling Qi fights against Bai/Cai it means that Liling fights the other ducal scion in the semi-finals, who has nothing to lose and would force Sun Liling to show all her tricks and possibly use one-shot items. Afterwards Liling would face a comparatively fresh ducal scion (Since Ling Qi is friends with Bai Meizhen, vassal of Cai Renxiang and hates Sun Liling).
Facing two relatively fresh ducal scions one after another is all but guaranteeing that Sun Liling would lose.
Also I think that the sect is unlikely to set a vassal to fight against their lord because it could easily turn boring if the vassal concedes, which is a real possibility.
You know the tournament has like 6 days left to it, right? The different rounds of matches are going to be held on different days, more than likely. The competitors will have time to be healed and rest. Also, frankly, all three of the monsters have the resources for resupply. We're the one who has to worry about running out of consumables
You know the tournament has like 6 days left to it, right? The different rounds of matches are going to be held on different days, more than likely. The competitors will have time to be healed and rest. Also, frankly, all three of the monsters have the resources for resupply. We're the one who has to worry about running out of consumables
Actual ducal scion level stuff or one-shot items isn't easily replenished. If it does, it tilts the fight too hard into 'my clan can economically beat up your clan' which we already know the sect limits.
I am talking about the stuff that will only gets played when one of the monsters starts to really lose, and thus won't really be a thing until they face each other.
(This is ignoring stuff like Bai Meizhen's poison being hard to heal and requiring more than 24 hours period or the equivalent crippling tactic)
Well, way I see it is:
-Cai leverage:
--Strongly wants Cai Renxiang in Inner Sect
--Wants Cai Renxiang in Finals
--Weakly wants Cai vassals/allies not to be fighting Cai Renxiang
-Bai leverage:
--Strongly wants Bai vs Sun match
--Strongly wants Bai Meizhen in Inner Sect
--Wants Bai vs Sun Finals match
-Sun leverage:
--Strongly wants Bai vs Sun match(both gramps and Liling)
--Wants Bai vs Sun Finals match(both gramps and Liling)
--Wants Cai vs Sun match(Liling only)
--Weakly wants Ling Qi vs Sun match(Liling only)
--Weakly wants Sun vassals not to be fighting Sun Liling
--Weakly wants Sun vassals to defeat Cai vassals
-Sect leverage:
--Strongly wants to avoid clashing with any ducal Strong Want.
--Wants Talented Commoners in Inner Sect
--Wants most dramatic show ever
Solve for the matches and it comes down to whether Cai Shenhua bothered to stack the deck beyond the minimum of avoiding a G16 Monster fight.
So it seems to me that this is likely because it fills all the Strong Wants and Wants at one go:
-G2: Sun vs Bai
-G4: Sun vs Cai, Bai vs ???
-G8: Sun vs Ling Qi, Cai vs ???, Bai vs ???, ??? vs ???
-Cai leverage:
--Strongly wants Cai Renxiang in Inner Sect
--Wants Cai Renxiang in Finals
--Weakly wants Cai vassals/allies not to be fighting Cai Renxiang
-Bai leverage:
--Strongly wants Bai vs Sun match
--Strongly wants Bai Meizhen in Inner Sect
--Wants Bai vs Sun Finals match
-Sun leverage:
--Strongly wants Bai vs Sun match(both gramps and Liling)
--Wants Bai vs Sun Finals match(both gramps and Liling)
--Wants Cai vs Sun match(Liling only)
--Weakly wants Ling Qi vs Sun match(Liling only)
--Weakly wants Sun vassals not to be fighting Sun Liling
--Weakly wants Sun vassals to defeat Cai vassals
-Sect leverage:
--Strongly wants to avoid clashing with any ducal Strong Want.
--Wants Talented Commoners in Inner Sect
--Wants most dramatic show ever
Solve for the matches and it comes down to whether Cai Shenhua bothered to stack the deck beyond the minimum of avoiding a G16 Monster fight.
So it seems to me that this is likely because it fills all the Strong Wants and Wants at one go:
-G2: Sun vs Bai
-G4: Sun vs Cai, Bai vs ???
-G8: Sun vs Ling Qi, Cai vs ???, Bai vs ???, ??? vs ???
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
I'm really not in favor of a Sun Liling dunking on us in the Best of Eight round, because that effectively hands Ji Rong the Best of Four spot, when he's done fuck all to earn it over the course of the year, unless he's secretly been doing massive sect services between being a bandit in the mountain.
The best compromise to that end is really "The best survivor on the Sun Side Subordinates vs Ling Qi". Them throwing Liling at us in the round eight is flagrantly favoring the Sun right in front of the eyes of the host duchess, unless they also have Ji Rong/Kang Zihao get eaten by a Monster in turn.
The best compromise to that end is really "The best survivor on the Sun Side Subordinates vs Ling Qi". Them throwing Liling at us in the round eight is flagrantly favoring the Sun right in front of the eyes of the host duchess, unless they also have Ji Rong/Kang Zihao get eaten by a Monster in turn.
