Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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- Original Fantasy
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So, it has occurred to me that we actually have little to no knowledge of anything outside of the mountain. Apparently, there are ruins of villages in these forests as well as areas that might contain lava or something like that (looking at the Gu family training grounds). So now that we are allowed to leave the mountain, and depending on how much money we can make from the attack on Kang's people, it might be prudent to take exploration actions instead of missions. With how far we can travel and our apparent ability to sense the qi of the land, it will be much easier to find a spot that has darkness or wind qi attributed to it. Furthermore, there might be something valuable in the various villages that lie in ruin, or the simple fact that we can gather various spirit beast cores along the way.
Now on to a few questions I have about this village in general. We know it has been destroyed some time ago so that begs the question of why there was a trail leading to it. Su Ling offered the possibility that it was created by people offering gifts, but then they would run afoul of the angry spirits. Also, we know that powerful spirits are capable of breaking the spirit wards (as was discussed in the prologue) and so I don't know why these spirit stones haven't broken down already if the city is as old as Su Ling believes it to be. Also, if the spirits were the previous inhabitants of the village, why would they be trapped outside of the village without having tried to break through the spirit wards.
All in all, the village is giving me spooks because if the village is old then the spirits would have already broken down the spirit wards but if the village is new, then something has occurred to make it seem like it is old. Either way, this village doesn't seem quite right to me.
At the moment I don't think that this spirit is the one causing the disappearances for the reason that it is extremely territorial and would not likely venture far from the stream that it is based around.
Now on to a few questions I have about this village in general. We know it has been destroyed some time ago so that begs the question of why there was a trail leading to it. Su Ling offered the possibility that it was created by people offering gifts, but then they would run afoul of the angry spirits. Also, we know that powerful spirits are capable of breaking the spirit wards (as was discussed in the prologue) and so I don't know why these spirit stones haven't broken down already if the city is as old as Su Ling believes it to be. Also, if the spirits were the previous inhabitants of the village, why would they be trapped outside of the village without having tried to break through the spirit wards.
All in all, the village is giving me spooks because if the village is old then the spirits would have already broken down the spirit wards but if the village is new, then something has occurred to make it seem like it is old. Either way, this village doesn't seem quite right to me.
At the moment I don't think that this spirit is the one causing the disappearances for the reason that it is extremely territorial and would not likely venture far from the stream that it is based around.
Information: Please don't poke people
Skyllian Blitz
Shadow Cabal Member
- Location
- Behind the Great Firewall
please don't poke people
You might not know who shows up. 
I do appreciate that you took some steps to clear the air after. The difference between friendly mocking and trolling is taking responsibility for riling up others.
We're not always going to agree with all decisions so everyone please keep an open mind.
I do appreciate that you took some steps to clear the air after. The difference between friendly mocking and trolling is taking responsibility for riling up others.
We're not always going to agree with all decisions so everyone please keep an open mind.
[X] Focus on the trail of human qi Su Ling can sense. It seems suspicious that someone would be out here in this old ruin.
Let's imagine we talked to the guards. They would have said us what at best? That there is a dangerous spirit there? What would it have changed at all? Su Ling would still have found the same trail and we would still be there fighting the same spirit.
Let's imagine we talked to the guards. They would have said us what at best? That there is a dangerous spirit there? What would it have changed at all? Su Ling would still have found the same trail and we would still be there fighting the same spirit.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
Go around it entirely, sequence breaking the whole fight.
Go up and properly greet it, by name and ritual so it will treat with us.
Set up a distraction so we could sneak by.
Use the rules that govern it to blind it to our presence and sneak by.
Prepare the tools of exorcism so that it's ghost minions can't be brought into play.
Go to town and buy anti-ghost talismans and charms.
Ambush it, take it out in the first round with a prepared alpha strike.
Quite possibly several other choices that we can't guess at due to our complete lack of context.
Long story short, there would have been a whole lot less salt and tension in the air, as we'd actually knew something about the situation.
Now, we know nothing. We are flying by the seat of our pants for the reasons that do not really stand to the scrutinity and people are justifiably nervous.
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How would knowing that it exist help here?
Or they were going to say to not trepass on the turf of the spirit that hate trespassers. As to go around it we are following a trail that pass by its turf, it's the entire problem, how the hell are we supposed to go around it and yet follow that trail?
As for exorcism and stuff like that is there a wog of god that I missed? Because it's quite out there that there exist special stuff against a certain type of spirit.
I fundamentally disagree with position that Guards Knew Nothing for great many and various reasons, which makes this question sound rather inane to me.
Changing my vote:
[x] Investigate the temple in the ruins, leaving the spirits outside straining at the weak wards might be a bad idea
I agree that it probably would've been smarter to question the guards and villagers first. A chance at gaining additional information is better than the guarantee of not getting additional information, in my opinion.
[x] Investigate the temple in the ruins, leaving the spirits outside straining at the weak wards might be a bad idea
I agree that it probably would've been smarter to question the guards and villagers first. A chance at gaining additional information is better than the guarantee of not getting additional information, in my opinion.
- Location
- Australia
I'm starting to doubt that these ghosts are the real culprit here. Most likely, there would have been a diplomacy route through this. Unfortunately, we (and I include myself in this) didn't decide to take the options that could lead to us solving the event via this route - we opted not to ask for more information, for a number of reasons.
Firstly, we'd just been told IC to be more bold (twice! - with the dream and then the condor), secondly, I think a large portion of the playerbase isn't really interested/invested in this mission and so we've been trying to speedrun it, and lastly, it was thought that Su Ling could make talking pointless. In any case, I don't think that route is now open to us - we have no idea *how* to accomplish it, and we've just injured their leader, potentially causing a grudge that will continue even after we've fixed the original problem.
This means we have to deal with the ghosts - either by killing them, or by investigating the temple. Of these options, I think killing them is the better one, because if the temple option fails we are screwed, because the ghosts may actually be the culprit here, and because if we do end up having to kill them, sniping them from the other side of the wards is the best possible way in which to do so - and we have no guarantee of getting conditions as good as this in the future.
[X] Try to drive off the spirits with force, while the wards last
Firstly, we'd just been told IC to be more bold (twice! - with the dream and then the condor), secondly, I think a large portion of the playerbase isn't really interested/invested in this mission and so we've been trying to speedrun it, and lastly, it was thought that Su Ling could make talking pointless. In any case, I don't think that route is now open to us - we have no idea *how* to accomplish it, and we've just injured their leader, potentially causing a grudge that will continue even after we've fixed the original problem.
This means we have to deal with the ghosts - either by killing them, or by investigating the temple. Of these options, I think killing them is the better one, because if the temple option fails we are screwed, because the ghosts may actually be the culprit here, and because if we do end up having to kill them, sniping them from the other side of the wards is the best possible way in which to do so - and we have no guarantee of getting conditions as good as this in the future.
[X] Try to drive off the spirits with force, while the wards last
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
It might have lost us enough time we would have had to deal with the wards already broken or the human already dead/having done his stuff, and so on.
Talking to the guards first would probably have told us little because they weren't locals but 'guards', talking to the villagers might have told us things but would also have been the 'proper' way to do things.
We have been sequence breaking the event: 'holding' was if we were not with Su Ling and had middling perception, and 'temple' would have been the same. The 'go ahead' option and the 'trail the human Qi' option are only available because of Su Ling's perception advantages, here.
So talking to villagers/guards would have taken a lot of time and forced us to do everything step by step, but we isntead are managing to sequence-break the event thanks to being able to detect what's really happening instead of flying off blindly.
Grosstoad
Birdbrain - Dick - Rules-Lawyer - Creeper
Initially, the idea was to look for clues on the kidnaping scenes, then to confirm theories or share new findings. This might give Su Ling some credibilty...
But apparently Ling Qi decides to follow the tracks further... And further... And further...
I guess she was expecting a feral spirit beast like the condor, instead of ones like Corpse Mimic or even Hanyi.
But apparently Ling Qi decides to follow the tracks further... And further... And further...
I guess she was expecting a feral spirit beast like the condor, instead of ones like Corpse Mimic or even Hanyi.
[x] Focus on the trail of human qi Su Ling can sense. It seems suspicious that someone would be out here in this old ruin.
I'm inclined to let the wards buy us time while we poke at things. The spirit's approach isn't exactly subtle, so I'm not all that worried about the wards breaking as long as we're not stuck underground with nowhere to escape or something similar. As long as we have or can achieve distance, we aren't in unmanageable danger.
I'm inclined to let the wards buy us time while we poke at things. The spirit's approach isn't exactly subtle, so I'm not all that worried about the wards breaking as long as we're not stuck underground with nowhere to escape or something similar. As long as we have or can achieve distance, we aren't in unmanageable danger.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Well, there are two cases here:
if it's a feral spirit we can go fast and hunt it.
If it's not (which I have thinking it's not from the beginning) talking to people can trigger a bigger conflict if there is an alliance between the villagers/guards and what's killing people (ritual sacrifice, whatever) or even just links. Likewise, rushing makes it more likely to deal with the actual root of the problem.
The dead spirits are blaming us for trespassing/thieving/murdering, and given the wards are weak they probably are not attacking anyone right now, so it's very likely the actual culprit is doing something by murdering people in their land and stealing stuff. So we need to resolve that instead of trying to kill our allies that would give us more exp/reward if we don't kill them and tell them what's going on later.
Also, the choices have basically been:
[] talk to guards (-1 ling qi, -1 su ling)
[] talk to villagers (neutral)
[] investigate (+5 su ling, +2 ling qi)
and then:
[] retreat (lost perception check option)
[] hold (got a minimal success perception check necessary for unlocking option)
[] go ahead (great perception check success necessary for unlocking option)
and now:
[] fight (default option)
[] Temple (Occult necessary option)
[] follow human trail (perception necessary option)
Frankly, the idea that we would choose to go interview people after investigating the sites of the disappearances was shaky at best, narratively and pragmatically. Treking around tracking down clues at the edge of town, and further, then turning back? Hits all the checkmarks for pointless time-wasting. We're not CSI here, the reason to investigate the scene is to track down the perpetrators/victims, not reconstruct a crime scene to build a case; the reason to talk to villagers/guards is to gain overall context.
I'm fine with how things went, just really confused by some of the reasoning used.
Also, villagers >>>>>>>>>>>> guards 5eva
I'm fine with how things went, just really confused by some of the reasoning used.
Also, villagers >>>>>>>>>>>> guards 5eva
In universe, that's true.
OOU, I expect that the quests hang around for longer than they realistically would because it would be too much work to update them every week.
