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Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

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Prospalz said:
This Quest hanged on the quest wall for what, four weeks?

I do not think that any time-related concerns are all that relevant, other than immediately relevant temple plot-hook currently ramming our face.
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Well, while you should be right, 'plot hooks and convenience' are a thing, and it was a 'last week and we give it to inner sect' thing, so it's possible the sect knows that such incident, if left alone too long, can be dangerous (or simply be because they had to deal with it sometimes).

It's more 'well, what the hell is that guy doing there now', though. Maybe it's just bad luck for our timing, but if we had spent more time talking to people not only would we have triggered a different path to the solution, which I suspect might be the temple at the end, but we might not have gotten the choice of finding that human alone at all.
 
Prospalz said:
Now, we know nothing. We are flying by the seat of our pants for the reasons that do not really stand to the scrutinity and people are justifiably nervous.
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I think we know just enough? The other posters have done a good enough job of picking up the clues that we can no longer say we are going in completely blind.

There is a path indicating that people come and go around here, making the offerings to the temple. The spirit wards are still unbroken. The spirits were not a problem until recently. The spirits are agitated and angry. There is an intruder on the sanctified grounds. They smell of qi, so it isn't a mortal.

We don't know anything for certain, but we can make a pretty good guess at what may have caused this. Following any of the leads will let us know more, and will likely expand our options.

And it's not like we are in great danger or lost anything, so the people's overreaction really puzzles me. Even though I wanted to investigate first, the mission looks like it is going perfectly fine regardless.
 
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[X] Try to drive off the spirits with force, while the wards last

Just let's get this quest over already...

This whole thing is one giant mistake.
 
. . . I will have to comment about thinking to act now in order to finish quickly when the idea of finishing quickly was the thing that gets us charging in blindly?
 
[x] Investigate the temple in the ruins, leaving the spirits outside straining at the weak wards might be a bad idea
 
Relax guys.

Is it possible that we haven't played this optimally? Quite likely. Are we in any great trouble? Not really. I mean, we set out here to kill a dangerous spirit, and so far we've found a dangerous yet quite manageable spirit.

It's hardly a disaster. We're going to get xp and sect points and some more practical combat experience at a reasonable level of risk - which is pretty much what we set out for.

Speculating about other hypothetical routes and their possible rewards really doesn't help matters, and mostly just serves as a vehicle for salt.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Codex on Jul 7, 2017 at 7:07 AM, finished with 24005 posts and 55 votes.
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Adhoc vote count started by Codex on Jul 7, 2017 at 1:00 PM, finished with 24022 posts and 62 votes.
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[X] Focus on the trail of human qi Su Ling can sense. It seems suspicious that someone would be out here in this old ruin.
 
Grosstoad said:
. . . I will have to comment about thinking to act now in order to finish quickly when the idea of finishing quickly was the thing that gets us charging in blindly?
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OK, I think I missed things, because I don't remember anyone wanting to go ahead in order to 'finish quickly'. I remember people wanting to investigate as it was what we are good at, and people wanting to go ahead because it is what we are good at, as well as because there were clues of being short on time.

I also don't remember us charging blindly: we have a very good idea of what's going on because we are good at looking at tracks thanks to having Su Ling around, and so we have done a very good job of not being blind at all.

I might be biased here, since I am looking at it, it appears, weirdly? I don't know. But it feels that if we had Han Jian with us and went to talk to the guards, and then had the option to go to the temple/finding that one suspicious guy/retreat to talk to villagers/investigate site, going to the trail we have been going on right now wouldn't be 'charging in blindly' either. It would still be using what we are good at (thanks to Han Jian).

If we had Bai Meizhen with us, and talked to the villagers and had her high occult stat tell us what was going on with the dead village and how it was possible someone was disturbing their rests, and we should go to the temple/find that one guy, would it be charging blindly to do so instead of talking to the guards/investigating site? I think no, again.

We chose to do what we are good at with the group we have, and we did it splendidly. We were optimal here. There was no rushing blindly, and there was no "we just want to get it over with" :(

EDIT: I'm just hoping we don't kill the spirits here, as "putting spirits to rest by finding what was making them angry" has high chance of giving us great loot compared to just killing them.
 
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Arkeus said:
OK, I think I missed things, because I don't remember anyone wanting to go ahead in order to 'finish quickly'. I remember people wanting to investigate as it was what we are good at, and people wanting to go ahead because it is what we are good at, as well as because there were clues of being short on time.

I also don't remember us charging blindly: we have a very good idea of what's going on because we are good at looking at tracks thanks to having Su Ling around, and so we have done a very good job of not being blind at all.
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Someone mentioned that most of the votes seems to trend towards 'finishing quickly', have Su Ling check the area for info or evidence (vote), follow the tracks in (narrative), push forward when seeing signs of spirit activity (vote).

In a way, it feels to me like voters were going 'No, we don't care about this mission, let's get it done. Dead spirits? Whatever.'

Like, we have some general idea of what is probably going on... But that's only in thread, because people like @Alectai and @Thor's Twin and others started speculating on the evidences seen in the narratives, instead of Ling Qi actually guessing about any of these.

Ling Qi is still trying to make a hypothesis about all the signs, and she does admit to herself that she might have gone too recklessly.

Ling Qi winced, rubbing the back of her neck sheepishly. Had she been too reckless in pushing ahead? "Might be so," she admitted. "I hadn't thought of that. Still, it can't hurt to check it out now that we're here, right?" Her instincts told her they were on the right track.
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She is in the right track, but the right track of what is still up in the airs.
 
Grosstoad said:
Someone mentioned that most of the votes seems to trend towards 'finishing quickly', have Su Ling check the area for info or evidence (vote), follow the tracks in (narrative), push forward when seeing signs of spirit activity (vote).

In a way, it feels to me like voters were going 'No, we don't care about this mission, let's get it done. Dead spirits? Whatever.'
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The people saying 'finish quickly' was this option were, iirc, the people not wanting to go this option. Basically, it was used as an argument to not do it. It was an accusation, if I remember correctly.
Like, we have some general idea of what is probably going on... But that's only in thread, because people like @Alectai and @Thor's Twin and others started speculating on the evidences seen in the narratives, instead of Ling Qi actually guessing about any of these.

Ling Qi is still trying to make a hypothesis about all the signs, and she does admit to herself that she might have gone too recklessly.

She is in the right track, but the right track of what is still up in the airs.
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Huh, I have done a lot of background work on what's possibly going on, as well as some other people here, it's not limited to a couple of people... and while some of it is OOC, a lot of it is IC: Ling Qi believing things about the human Qi and so on.

I am also very sure that there wouldn't have been a "we know everything that's been going on from the start" option. Being on the right track and being able to see the multiple factors going on here is already a lot of foresight and knowledge. We are close to knowing as much as we could about it for where we are, I think. There might have been options where we would have had a bit more context about dead village (talking to villagers) or who could be the human around (talking to guards) but it would have come, I think, at the cost of not catching the human in the act if he is the culprit, or not being able to help him if he isn't.

Being there now instead of in a few hours is worth, I think, a few details about how to appease the spirits or the guy, if we are fairly confident in our ability to appease the spirits and deal with the guy without those info. I think we are.
 
Everyone's missing the forest for the aquatic Death spirit!

The real value of the interviewing people actions was in watching Ling Qi and Su Ling interact with guards from a vantage of personal strength and their out-of-depth management thereof, and seeing Su Ling deal with maybe antagonistic or just ignorant peasants.

Comedy gold.
 
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I definitely voiced an opinion that could be read as wanting to finish quickly. I think the worst thing that could have happened once we found the spirit would have been going back to town, talked to someone about the spirit we found, and then find out that we had found the correct target and now had to go back to fight it. I don't mind this event taking a bunch of turns and real life days, I just would have found that specific sequence of events incredibly unsatisfying.
 
Arkeus said:
Being there now instead of in a few hours is worth, I think, a few details about how to appease the spirits or the guy, if we are fairly confident in our ability to appease the spirits and deal with the guy without those info. I think we are.
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Difference of opinion then, since I don't think we were prepared for any sort of appeasement, aside from beating or removing someone from the vicinity.
 
Grosstoad said:
Difference of opinion then, since I don't think we were prepared for any sort of appeasement, aside from beating or removing someone from the vicinity.
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About spirit appeasement, given the things we have seen so far it's likely that a specific item is the best bet for it... and given their complaints of 'Thieves', it's very likely that either the guy around or someone else has stolen something from them that we can then use to gain their favour.

It's also possible it was something the villagers had, but I highly doubt the villagers of another village would have the item the dead villages are clamouring thieves over. Not just that, but if it was the case it would probably be a village secret and not something they want to tell a stranger until we had some really great rolls.
 
"Got it. I dunno what you're doing but you better damn well be right behind me," her companion responding, redoubling her speed even as Ling Qi spun around, her new bow appearing in her hands as she flickered from the ground to atop a sturdy tree branch, leveling her arrow at the armored water spirit at the mobs core


She let her fears fade, and her concerns disappear, lining up the shot with absolute precision as the wind kicked up around her, blowing away mist as sheets of crackling static erupted from her hands and bow.
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There has been some discussions of this before when we were learning archery and FSA, but it really does seem like Ling Qi has some combat meditation burgeoning there. If we truly are forced to create our own cultivation art later, it might be a direction to look toward.
 
[X] Investigate the temple in the ruins, leaving the spirits outside straining at the weak wards might be a bad idea
 
Hmmm, a bit torn between human trail and temple. Both are a bit of a gamble.

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[X] Investigate the temple in the ruins, leaving the spirits outside straining at the weak wards might be a bad idea
 
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