Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

I wouldn't say that sex doesn't matter.

Generally in mythology things are identified as male and female due to their fairly fundamental connection to the whole idea of procreation. I would imagine that Cui's father was a male dagger.

Similarly, I wouldn't be surprised if higher level spirits could take human form.
That's probably true, now that you mention it.
 
Lu Feng, Hero of the Rebellion
AN: A little bit of apocrypha inspired by Lu Feng's unfortunate run of rolls back in the Thunderdome redux. And, of course, everybody's favorite hero of the Imperium of Man. Special thanks to @yrsillar for creating such an enjoyable xianxia setting.

Now brace yourself for the retelling of the glorious deeds of Lu Feng, HERO OF THE REBELLION...

ooOoo
Lu Feng had spent considerable time and effort mastering his family's secret art before enrolling in the Argent Peak Sect. Crouching Dragon Hides in Shadows. A long, pretentious name for a surprisingly simple art that hid his cultivation level from the prying eyes of his peers. He had hoped that it would lead others to underestimate him.

Those were innocent days.

He had always thought of himself as reasonably talented, but in the Argent Peak Sect reasonable talent was the bare minimum required for admission. All around him the other disciples flew ahead, borne on the wings of their talent, while he plodded forward one slow step at a time. It was some comfort that the others remained unaware of the truth. He had no great fear of discovery, either, thanks to the insane selectivity of the inner sect. It would be no great mark of shame to remain an outer disciple for the entire time he spent on the mountain.

That left the issue of his personal safety, although that was no trouble at first. Anybody who voluntarily spent time with Sun Liling picked up a trace of the aura of danger that always surrounded the princess. Not to mention the more tangible promise of retribution to deter those who might have been bold enough to try their luck anyways. When she joined with a group of other powerful disciples to establish order on the mountain, Lu Feng had begun to hope that he might get through the rest of the year without facing a serious fight.

Then Sun Liling decided to declare war on the rest of the outer sect.

Honestly, standing at the rear of the battlefield while the princess went on a rampage wasn't that bad. After the direct approach failed, though, Sun Liling had gotten a little more cautious. She'd decided to delegate.

And so Lu Feng found himself crouched on a tree branch next to Ji Rong in the dead of night, contemplating how best to carry out the order to "stir up something interesting." The two of them had a clear view of a trail used by Cai Renxiang's enforcers, and several carefully crafted formations would keep any noise from escaping the area around them.

Six months ago, Lu Feng would have been more than a match for any one of Cai Renxiang's enforcement teams. Three months ago, he would have had a good hope of taking them down. Today, he didn't like his chances against more than one of them at a time. He'd have to stay patient and hope that their discipline was less effective than their training.

When a lone figure appeared on the path, Lu Feng at first thought his prayers had been answered. Then a stray beam of moonlight illuminated the face of Gan Guangli, and Lu Feng let that thought go. The other boy had grown well past the point where Feng's entangling arts would serve as anything more than a brief distraction. Better to let him pass and-

"Hey, asshole!"

Ji Rong called out the insult as he dropped down from the tree, abandoning any attempt at stealth. Lu Feng stifled a sigh and jumped down after him. Ji Rong wasn't a bad guy, really. Lu Feng had found himself put in the position of Rong's best friend by virtue of being the only member of their group that wasn't constantly needling him or challenging him to fights, and he had found his company surprisingly tolerable. Ji Rong's headstrong streak was going to get him killed someday, though, and Lu Feng dearly hoped not to get dragged along when it happened. Even so, he could hardly abandon him before the fight even properly started.

Gan Guangli, for his part, had remained calm as he turned to face the two of them. "Lu Feng. The barbarian princess's dread right hand."

Lu Feng just stared. He felt... flattered? Insulted? Bemused? Seriously, who talked like that?

"Leash your hound," Gan Guangli continued, unfazed by his lack of reaction. "I would test myself against you, though the outcome is certain."

Lu Feng didn't know whether to laugh or cry over the wild effect a friendship with Sun Liling could have on a reputation. The outcome was certain, indeed, though not the way the other boy seemed to think. Gan Guangli towered over Lu Feng, but the physical differences between them dramatically understated the difference in their strength. Any fight between them would end the moment Guangli laid a hand on him. At that point he wouldn't even need to use any art to pluck the limbs off of Lu Feng's body.

Lu Feng liked his limbs right where they were. He needed to figure out a way out of this.

"You got a big head to go with the fancy clothes and fancy talk," Ji Rong said, pausing to spit off to the side. "You think you're worth Brother Lu's time? Prove it by beating me first."

Ji Rong was truly a prince among men. Lu Feng resolved to speak well of him after he inevitably got himself killed.

Gan Guangli glowered at the interruption. "Your terms are acceptable."

With that, the fight began. Lu Feng strained his eyes, attempting to follow the action. It had been some months since he could keep up in a serious fight, but until recently he could at least see what was going on. Apparently those days were behind him as well, though. Gan Guangli flickered into view right in front of him, fist swinging down at a shadow that resolved itself into Ji Rong, already braced to block. The two fighters remained intent on each other, ignoring the dust kicked up by the shockwave as they collided. The same shockwave tossed Lu Feng out of their little clearing and sent him tumbling into the woods.

He flipped head over heels several times before crashing to a halt against a solid tree trunk. The good news, he confirmed as he picked himself up from the ground, was that he hadn't taken any serious damage. The better news was that his clothes were self cleaning. The bad news was that even shielding himself from the incidental blow had badly drained his qi reserves. Still, there was nothing for it but to make himself look presentable and pick his way back towards the fight.

Unnatural shrieks, crackling fires, the reverberating booms as blows struck home... Lu Feng could almost taste the qi in the air as he cautiously approached the battle. Ji Rong was a terrifying talent, a true once in a lifetime genius. Gan Guangli was no slouch himself, though, and had enjoyed a tremendous access to resources since he had bound himself to Cai Renxiang. Lu Feng wouldn't have liked to wager on the outcome of their battle, given the choice. With his own neck on the line, all he could do was hope.

When he was close enough to see into the clearing his eye was drawn to Ji Rong's form. The other boy was surrounded by a nimbus of crackling lightning. He suddenly darted forward, the lightning flowing around him until it took the shape of a great dragon's head. Ji Rong's fist flowed along with the dragon's fangs as he crashed into Gan Guangli. They stood frozen for a moment as the dragon's head lost its form, the electicity draining into Gan Guangli's body. When it completely disappeared Ji Rong drew back his fist, allowing the still twitching form of Gan Guangli to crumple to the ground.

"Thinkin' you're better than me because you grabbed onto a lady's skirts. Dumbass."

Lu Feng watched with relief as Ji Rong knelt and stripped a storage ring from his downed foe. The relief turned to alarm when he rolled the unconscious Gan Guangli onto his face and started working at the fastenings of his armor. Just like that, Ji Rong's total lack of self preservation flipped from an asset to a liability. Lu Feng steeled himself and stepped forward.

"We have to go. Now."

Ji Rong turned, a rebellious expression on his face. "We got those formations up, don't we?"

Lu Feng shook his head, then turned and ran. A formation designed to contain the sounds of a simple scuffle couldn't hope to hide the signs of such a high level brawl. His time was better spent putting space between himself and the incoming retalition instead of trying to explain the finer points of formation design to Ji Rong, though. It wasn't more than a few breaths later that the other boy caught up with him, running at his shoulder without a word.

The two of them ran in silence for long moments. Ji Rong managed to exude a sulky air even as they ran pell mell through the forest. Lu Feng would have been impressed, if he hadn't been too busy fearing for his life. They had covered perhaps a half a mile before Lu Feng realized that the ground ahead of them was just a bit more visible than it ought to be. A glance back revealed a new star streaking through the heavens. A heartbeat later the star came plummeting from the sky, thankfully crashing to the ground well behind them. Even so, Lu Feng could have sworn that he felt his hair tremble as the shock wave from the impact passed them by.

Beside him, Ji Rong whistled, all traces of his earlier attitude melting away. "Damn, man, how'd you feel her coming?"

Lu Feng held his silence and kept up his pace. He didn't have the breath to spare, even if he'd been inclined to answer. Ji Rong, of course, looked like he was moving at an easy jog.

"I guess that just shows how far I have to go to catch up to the real monsters like you," Ji Rong added, ever the amiable competitor. "I'll work twice as hard on my perception arts this week for sure."

One thought kept Lu Feng moving forward. After the end of year tournament, most of the maniacs from this year would be promoted to the Inner Sect, never to trouble him again. All he had to do was hold on for the next four months, two weeks, and three days.

ooOoo​

"... and that asshole's gonna have to regrow some teeth before he starts shoutin' 'bout his Lady Cai again," Ji Rong said, finishing the story with relish.

Sun Liling had started their debriefing in her usual relaxed sprawl, one leg casually slung over the armrest of her throne. Her posture had grown more attentive over the course of the tale, and she was now leaning forward with a savage grin on her face. Lu Feng was struck by how completely at home she looked in her rough-hewn mountain fortress.

"Lu Feng took care of the rest of the patrol while I was playin' with Gan," Ji Rong added. Lu Feng blinked, but managed to keep a straight face as Rong flashed him a grin. "Musta been three or four of them, messin' up your hair that bad."

Not for the first time, Lu Feng wondered if there was room for anything else in Ji Rong's head besides his prodigious talent for cultivation.

Lu Feng gave him a sour look. "It was nothing of consequence."

"Tired of fighting small fry?" Sun Liling asked, taking a moment to crack her knuckles. "Don't worry, things'll be getting more interesting pretty soon."

Four months, two weeks, and two days.

ooOoo​
 
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AN: A little bit of apocrypha inspired by Lu Feng's unfortunate run of rolls back in the Thunderdome redux. And, of course, everybody's favorite hero of the Imperium of Man. Special thanks to @yrsillar for creating such an enjoyable xianxia setting.

Now brace yourself for the retelling of the glorious deeds of Lu Feng, HERO OF THE REBELLION...

ooOoo
Lu Feng had spent considerable time and effort mastering his family's secret art before enrolling in the Argent Peak Sect. Crouching Dragon Hides in Shadows. A long, pretentious name for a surprisingly simple art that hid his cultivation level from the prying eyes of his peers. He had hoped that it would lead others to underestimate him.

Those were innocent days.

He had always thought of himself as reasonably talented, but in the Argent Peak Sect reasonable talent was the bare minimum required for admission. All around him the other disciples flew ahead, borne on the wings of their talent, while he plodded forward one slow step at a time. It was some comfort that the others remained unaware of the truth. He had no great fear of discovery, either, thanks to the insane selectivity of the inner sect. It would be no great mark of shame to remain an outer disciple for the entire time he spent on the mountain.

That left the issue of his personal safety, although that was no trouble at first. Anybody who voluntarily spent time with Sun Liling picked up a trace of the aura of danger that always surrounded the princess. Not to mention the more tangible promise of retribution to deter those who might have been bold enough to try their luck anyways. When she joined with a group of other powerful disciples to establish order on the mountain, Lu Feng had begun to hope that he might get through the rest of the year without facing a serious fight.

Then Sun Liling decided to declare war on the rest of the outer sect.

Honestly, standing at the rear of the battlefield while the princess went on a rampage wasn't that bad. After the direct approach failed, though, Sun Liling had gotten a little more cautious. She'd decided to delegate.

And so Lu Feng found himself crouched on a tree branch next to Ji Rong in the dead of night, contemplating how best to carry out the order to "stir up something interesting." The two of them had a clear view of a trail used by Cai Renxiang's enforcers, and several carefully crafted formations would keep any noise from escaping the area around them.

Six months ago, Lu Feng would have been more than a match for any one of Cai Renxiang's enforcement teams. Three months ago, he would have had a good hope of taking them down. Today, he didn't like his chances against more than one of them at a time. He'd have to stay patient and hope that their discipline was less effective than their training.

When a lone figure appeared on the path, Lu Feng at first thought his prayers had been answered. Then a stray beam of moonlight illuminated the face of Gan Guangli, and Lu Feng let that thought go. The other boy had grown well past the point where Feng's entangling arts would serve as anything more than a brief distraction. Better to let him pass and-

"Hey, asshole!"

Ji Rong called out the insult as he dropped down from the tree, abandoning any attempt at stealth. Lu Feng stifled a sigh and jumped down after him. Ji Rong wasn't a bad guy, really. Lu Feng had found himself put in the position of Rong's best friend by virtue of being the only member of their group that wasn't constantly needling him or challenging him to fights, and he had found his company surprisingly tolerable. Ji Rong's headstrong streak was going to get him killed someday, though, and Lu Feng dearly hoped not to get dragged along when it happened. Even so, he could hardly abandon him before the fight even properly started.

Gan Guangli, for his part, had remained calm as he turned to face the two of them. "Lu Feng. The barbarian princess's dread right hand."

Lu Feng just stared. He felt... flattered? Insulted? Bemused? Seriously, who talked like that?

"Leash your hound," Gan Guangli continued, unfazed by his lack of reaction. "I would test myself against you, though the outcome is certain."

Lu Feng didn't know whether to laugh or cry over the wild effect a friendship with Sun Liling could have on a reputation. The outcome was certain, indeed, though not the way the other boy seemed to think. Gan Guangli towered over Lu Feng, but the physical differences between them dramatically understated the difference in their strength. Any fight between them would end the moment Guangli laid a hand on him. At that point he wouldn't even need to use any art to pluck the limbs off of Lu Feng's body.

Lu Feng liked his limbs right where they were. He needed to figure out a way out of this.

"You got a big head to go with the fancy clothes and fancy talk," Ji Rong said, pausing to spit off to the side. "You think you're worth Brother Lu's time? Prove it by beating me first."

Ji Rong was truly a prince among men. Lu Feng resolved to speak well of him after he inevitably got himself killed.

Gan Guangli glowered at the interruption. "Your terms are acceptable."

With that, the fight began. Lu Feng strained his eyes, attempting to follow the action. It had been some months since he could keep up in a serious fight, but until recently he could at least see what was going on. Apparently those days were behind him as well, though. Gan Guangli flickered into view right in front of him, fist swinging down at a shadow that resolved itself into Ji Rong, already braced to block. The two fighters remained intent on each other, ignoring the dust kicked up by the shockwave as they collided. The same shockwave tossed Lu Feng out of their little clearing and sent him tumbling into the woods.

He flipped head over heels several times before crashing to a halt against a solid tree trunk. The good news, he confirmed as he picked himself up from the ground, was that he hadn't taken any serious damage. The better news was that his clothes were self cleaning. The bad news was that even shielding himself from the incidental blow had badly drained his qi reserves. Still, there was nothing for it but to make himself look presentable and pick his way back towards the fight.

Unnatural shrieks, crackling fires, the reverberating booms as blows struck home... Lu Feng could almost taste the qi in the air as he cautiously approached the battle. Ji Rong was a terrifying talent, a true once in a lifetime genius. Gan Guangli was no slouch himself, though, and had enjoyed a tremendous access to resources since he had bound himself to Cai Renxiang. Lu Feng wouldn't have liked to wager on the outcome of their battle, given the choice. With his own neck on the line, all he could do was hope.

When he was close enough to see into the clearing his eye was drawn to Ji Rong's form. The other boy was surrounded by a nimbus of crackling lightning. He suddenly darted forward, the lightning flowing around him until it took the shape of a great dragon's head. Ji Rong's fist flowed along with the dragon's fangs as he crashed into Gan Guangli. They stood frozen for a moment as the dragon's head lost its form, the electicity draining into Gan Guangli's body. When it completely disappeared Ji Rong drew back his fist, allowing the still twitching form of Gan Guangli to crumple to the ground.

"Thinkin' you're better than me because you grabbed onto a lady's skirts. Dumbass."

Lu Feng watched with relief as Ji Rong knelt and stripped a storage ring from his downed foe. The relief turned to alarm when he rolled the unconscious Gan Guangli onto his face and started working at the fastenings of his armor. Just like that, Ji Rong's total lack of self preservation flipped from an asset to a liability. Lu Feng steeled himself and stepped forward.

"We have to go. Now."

Ji Rong turned, a rebellious expression on his face. "We got those formations up, don't we?"

Lu Feng shook his head, then turned and ran. A formation designed to contain the sounds of a simple scuffle couldn't hope to hide the signs of such a high level brawl. His time was better spent putting space between himself and the incoming retalition instead of trying to explain the finer points of formation design to Ji Rong, though. It wasn't more than a few breaths later that the other boy caught up with him, running at his shoulder without a word.

The two of them ran in silence for long moments. Ji Rong managed to exude a sulky air even as they ran pell mell through the forest. Lu Feng would have been impressed, if he hadn't been too busy fearing for his life. They had covered perhaps a half a mile before Lu Feng realized that the ground ahead of them was just a bit more visible than it ought to be. A glance back revealed a new star streaking through the heavens. A heartbeat later the star came plummeting from the sky, thankfully crashing to the ground well behind them. Even so, Lu Feng could have sworn that he felt his hair tremble as the shock wave from the impact passed them by.

Beside him, Ji Rong whistled, all traces of his earlier attitude melting away. "Damn, man, how'd you feel her coming?"

Lu Feng held his silence and kept up his pace. He didn't have the breath to spare, even if he'd been inclined to answer. Ji Rong, of course, looked like he was moving at an easy jog.

"I guess that just shows how far I have to go to catch up to the real monsters like you," Ji Rong added, ever the amiable competitor. "I'll work twice as hard on my perception arts this week for sure."

One thought kept Lu Feng moving forward. After the end of year tournament, most of the maniacs from this year would be promoted to the Inner Sect, never to trouble him again. All he had to do was hold on for the next four months, two weeks, and three days.

ooOoo​

"... and that asshole's gonna have to regrow some teeth before he starts shoutin' 'bout his Lady Cai again," Ji Rong said, finishing the story with relish.

Sun Liling had started their debriefing in her usual relaxed sprawl, one leg casually slung over the armrest of her throne. Her posture had grown more attentive over the course of the tale, and she was now leaning forward with a savage grin on her face. Lu Feng was struck by how completely at home she looked in her rough-hewn mountain fortress.

"Lu Feng took care of the rest of the patrol while I was playin' with Gan," Ji Rong added. Lu Feng blinked, but managed to keep a straight face as Rong flashed him a grin. "Musta been three or four of them, messin' up your hair that bad."

Not for the first time, Lu Feng wondered if there was room for anything else in Ji Rong's head besides his prodigious talent for cultivation.

Lu Feng gave him a sour look. "It was nothing of consequence."

"Tired of fighting small fry?" Sun Liling asked, taking a moment to crack her knuckles. "Don't worry, things'll be getting more interesting pretty soon."

Four months, two weeks, and two days.

ooOoo​
I like it, but then I've always had a soft spot for Ciphias expies. The character just works so well in otherwise serious battle centric settings. Sun knows what's really going on, though, right? Just because he's her subordinate and I've always gotten the impression they knew each other a bit better than the rest of the group. Also, I think it'd be funnier if she was also in on the joke and trying to keep herself from laughing when people challenge him.
 
I like it, but then I've always had a soft spot for Ciphias expies. The character just works so well in otherwise serious battle centric settings. Sun knows what's really going on, though, right? Just because he's her subordinate and I've always gotten the impression they knew each other a bit better than the rest of the group. Also, I think it'd be funnier if she was also in on the joke and trying to keep herself from laughing when people challenge him.

Sun is probably a good three quarters of the reason for the joke. She keeps talking up her "dread right hand" lol. I'm pretty certain she finds it funny not just to throw people into the pool and see if they sink or swim, but also to fill the pool with acid. And put in acid-proof piranhas.
 
If Cai Shenhua was easy to get rid of it would have happened 150 years ago. Moving literal mountains would be easier than killing her, so I think we can consider her a fixture for the foreseeable future.
CRX position, by default, rest on her ability to take over when Cai Shenhua is gone. Everything CRX does to prove she is a worthy heir is to prove she is worthy of replacing Shenhua.

Shenhua's personal strength doesn't matter when you are talking about how secure the Cai is, because by default the security of the Cai is about their ability to survive once Shenhua is gone... which will happen. Maybe Shenhua will not ascend and stay another 800 years as a duchess, dying of old age, but in this case it will means CRX failed as an heir, and that she couldn't make the Cai clan secure (well, unless she got to be empress or whatever).

The more likely scenarios are either the plans of Shenhua coming to an head within 200 years and CRX having to be strong enough to take over afterwards, or the Cai clan dying with Shenhua, either as she ascends once she failed to get a worthy heir or once she dies of old age.

In the timelines Meizhen is speaking of, with the 'great sects not being secure', the Cai clan is probably the least secure of all the clans of the empire. Even the Sun clan, which might not have a worthy heir, at least have a shit ton of vassals who are dedicated to making it survive (because they threw their lots in them when betraying the Bai).
 
Whatever we think, we almost certainly decide our future now based on very limited information. We have no real dog in Cai's fights, and the further we advance quickly, the more we can write our own ticket.

In the short term, whatever Cai tries in the inner sect might go a lot worse than any of her current stuff, given a generally flatter distribution of power (everyone at green for a while). It's possible Cai will try the same hardball tactics, and those won't work half as well.
 
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I like it, but then I've always had a soft spot for Ciphias expies. The character just works so well in otherwise serious battle centric settings. Sun knows what's really going on, though, right? Just because he's her subordinate and I've always gotten the impression they knew each other a bit better than the rest of the group. Also, I think it'd be funnier if she was also in on the joke and trying to keep herself from laughing when people challenge him.
Could go either way, based on whichever is funnier. Certainly could work with her in the know, but I think it could also work with her basically repeatedly saying "Hey Feng, go take care of this thing" and the thing (implausibly) getting taken care of, together with Liling assuming that other people are fundamentally like her.
 
In the short term, whatever Cai tries in the inner sect might go a lot worse than any of her current stuff, given a generally flatter distribution of power (everyone at green for a while). It's possible Cai will try the same hardball tactics, and those won't work half as well.
Or it might go quite a bit better, with her having more information on the inner members through agents placed there by her mother, like that Cai apprentice that made our dress. I would not assume that she is going to try the same strategy when said strategy would clearly not work.
 
In the short term, whatever Cai tries in the inner sect might go a lot worse than any of her current stuff, given a generally flatter distribution of power (everyone at green for a while). It's possible Cai will try the same hardball tactics, and those won't work half as well.
She's not stupid though. Her approach in the Outer Sect was very much a response to the situation it was in after Thunderdome - i.e. anarchy.

In a more civilised and ordered setting, she would play the political game and make alliances to establish herself as a significant player and attempt to gather allies and supporters for later life. She wouldn't try to simply dominate everyone else. Indeed, note that even with the Outer Sect, she played things carefully.
 
Could go either way, based on whichever is funnier. Certainly could work with her in the know, but I think it could also work with her basically repeatedly saying "Hey Feng, go take care of this thing" and the thing (implausibly) getting taken care of, together with Liling assuming that other people are fundamentally like her.

You know, if Liling and her family weren't so anti-Meizhen, going to work for Liling would probably be really fun. Ling Qi works well with instructions like "Go take care of this thing". Honestly, I love Meizhen, but I wish we could have had that dual-roomie thing going at the start of the quest. Wouldn't have lasted, but it would have been seriously fun.

Maybe, if we're lucky, once we hit the inner sect, a third faction will arise that will force Cai, Bai, and Liling to all work together to counter it. I wouldn't mind being closer frienemies with Liling and Ji Rong.
 
Well yeah, they would have to counter the dreaded Qi Ling, a secretive and hard to catch spy mistress.

Thankfully they have Ling Qi to help try and find out her nefarious plots, though we always do seem and get a minute too late...
 
*meditatively* You know what I think I'm gonna like about the inner sect? How there's almost certainly going to be conflict, but how the conflict is definitely going to be a lot more low-key. Rules and atmosphere of the inner sect is probably going to advantage social schemers like Cai, and Ms "plausible deniability" Ling Qi, but severely disadvantage punchy bruisers like Ji Rong.
 
You know, if Liling and her family weren't so anti-Meizhen, going to work for Liling would probably be really fun. Ling Qi works well with instructions like "Go take care of this thing". Honestly, I love Meizhen, but I wish we could have had that dual-roomie thing going at the start of the quest. Wouldn't have lasted, but it would have been seriously fun.
It's amazing in retrospect how much the direction of the quest has been shaped by a 5 (Bai) to 5 (both) to 4 (Sun) to 3 (nobody) vote and a set of 4 two-dice social rolls. That chapter really could have gone in any direction.

The dual-roomie verse would have been amazing (I wonder if the QM will ever share his notes on what kind of crazy roll we would have needed to pull it off). Sun Liling and Bai Meizhen passive-aggressively competing with each other by giving us tips and gradually escalating into a torrid on-off love-hate driven affair... it had beautiful disaster written all over it.
 
It's amazing in retrospect how much the direction of the quest has been shaped by a 5 (Bai) to 5 (both) to 4 (Sun) to 3 (nobody) vote and a set of 4 two-dice social rolls. That chapter really could have gone in any direction.

The dual-roomie verse would have been amazing (I wonder if the QM will ever share his notes on what kind of crazy roll we would have needed to pull it off). Sun Liling and Bai Meizhen passive-aggressively competing with each other by giving us tips and gradually escalating into a torrid on-off love-hate driven affair... it had beautiful disaster written all over it.
It wouldn't have been amazing as one of them would've left within a month, and was noted to be something that would interfere with Ling Qi's ability to cultivate.
 
It's amazing in retrospect how much the direction of the quest has been shaped by a 5 (Bai) to 5 (both) to 4 (Sun) to 3 (nobody) vote and a set of 4 two-dice social rolls. That chapter really could have gone in any direction.

The dual-roomie verse would have been amazing (I wonder if the QM will ever share his notes on what kind of crazy roll we would have needed to pull it off). Sun Liling and Bai Meizhen passive-aggressively competing with each other by giving us tips and gradually escalating into a torrid on-off love-hate driven affair... it had beautiful disaster written all over it.

The QM already said what would have happened on Discord.

We only needed to succeed on that composure test with Liling to get that. Sun Liling would have admired Ling Qi's determination and decide to go along with rooming with Bai for the lolz. The both of them then start needling each other and being total shits to each other until they start getting into bad moods, and Ling Qi would have a hell of a time trying to mediate and fail. It would have ended with one of them leaving by the time the first month was over.
 
It's amazing in retrospect how much the direction of the quest has been shaped by a 5 (Bai) to 5 (both) to 4 (Sun) to 3 (nobody) vote and a set of 4 two-dice social rolls. That chapter really could have gone in any direction.
Our ridiculous luck on breakthrough rolls has also had a huge impact. If we hadn't been yellow at the time of the first meeting, we'd have been Meizhen's minion rather than our own player. We'd be treated very differently.
 
Our ridiculous luck on breakthrough rolls has also had a huge impact. If we hadn't been yellow at the time of the first meeting, we'd have been Meizhen's minion rather than our own player. We'd be treated very differently.

Sure we'd have been treated kinda different during that meeting, but we'd probably have been respected once we broke through a week or two later. I'd say the roomie decision had a way huger impact. Like, imagine if we had failed the roll for Meizhen, but passed for Liling? Or passed them both, but then had to choose between them? If we'd spent some time with Liling as well as Meizhen, would we have been so quick to join sides when Liling started her little revolt? Or would we have stood aside and just let events play out?
 
But if she was already a white and the leader of her province for decades, if not a century by then, then who could oppose her? Unless she really cared about having a successor so badly, why would she marry a man and have a child? But why like this? Especially since we know that paltry things like sex or species or being an inanimate object matter little with regards to cultivator procreation.
Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that fertility decreases by a lot as you increase in Cultivation?
Might just be that it takes a few decades to actually produce a child when you're White.

Otherwise there's also the consideration that Shenhua probably wanted to do at least a certain amount of cleaning up of her realm before exposing her heir to be to it. No point in producing an heir when there's a chance they could get taken in by how things used to be run and you have to scrap them anyways.
 
There's also the idea that she really doesn't like guys and finds getting and/or being pregnant something to avoid. Being a second generational Immortal, she likely doesn't have any claim on the throne. The theory is that CRX is her answer to this.

Her husband presumably has some of the emperor's blood in him, as many noble families do. This way she can raise a child/puppet to claim the throne for her. If CRX isn't up to scratch, she'll try again with another, but not if she doesn't have to.
 
Sure we'd have been treated kinda different during that meeting, but we'd probably have been respected once we broke through a week or two later. I'd say the roomie decision had a way huger impact. Like, imagine if we had failed the roll for Meizhen, but passed for Liling? Or passed them both, but then had to choose between them? If we'd spent some time with Liling as well as Meizhen, would we have been so quick to join sides when Liling started her little revolt? Or would we have stood aside and just let events play out?
On the other hand with Meizhen and Liling busy throwing knives at each other we'd have missed out on the early cultivation boosters that jumpstarted us.
Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that fertility decreases by a lot as you increase in Cultivation?
Might just be that it takes a few decades to actually produce a child when you're White.

Otherwise there's also the consideration that Shenhua probably wanted to do at least a certain amount of cleaning up of her realm before exposing her heir to be to it. No point in producing an heir when there's a chance they could get taken in by how things used to be run and you have to scrap them anyways.
Nope. Fertility isn't a big problem, barring a cultivation combo that specifically harms that.
But in Cultivator culture you tend to have 10-20 years between each child, because unlike mortals you're going to have plenty of time. You prefer to start on a new child after the first child doesn't need any more attention(which by Cai's standards more or less means full third tier at a minimum) and can develop on their own. Having children more often than that is a sign of desperation(i.e. the Gus, where Xiulan has a sister near her age because her family was desperately trying to produce a male heir due to their extremely Yang family arts)

That said, some fertility issues may be in effect in genre. Cai Shenhua by all reports is an extremely Yang cultivator, and that could screw with fertility as a woman, as much as a very Yin male cultivator may get afflicted with some impotence....or it could just be pure personality effect where Cai can't really stand being the receiving party in bed.
 
Shenhua's personal strength doesn't matter when you are talking about how secure the Cai is, because by default the security of the Cai is about their ability to survive once Shenhua is gone...
Shenhua won't ascend until she is satisfied, therefore if CRX inherits it's because Shenhua is satisfied she can take over. That is not a source of instability.
 
*pokes head in*

So, I've been following the quest for some time, and about to make the transition from lurker to voter...

Any particular posts I should read to attempt to understand the game system, current long term plans, terminologies, etc?
 
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